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i trust him as much as i trust keegan

hows that ? Have you not saw that episode of Only Fools when they all chip in to buy those gold chains? f***ing Hell Tooj. you read my mind but surely 1 billionaire will have more clout than a consortium of 10 men who have 1 million each ?

Kevin Keegan has Kevin Keegans best interests at heart. People really need to f*** off with this whole selfless martyr image of him they're trying to build. IF people start f***ing u about at wherever u work, will u just carry on and let them? and theres no possibility he was playing power games ?

hows that ?

has terry mac still got that sheikh's get up ? ("ey,we got billions likhe,,ey get robinho,course we's good for it")

IDEA for a Banner... 'ARABS CHANGE YOUR MIND- SELL CITY AND BUY US' I heard in a podcast that the City thing could be about to go up in smoke. come on then...explain

Reasons for not talking to the media about transfers : fear of other clubs scuppering the deal, minimising the papers releasing incorrect rumour about potential salary requests, transfer fees. Reasons for talking to the fans : allowing them an insight into THEIR club and to what is happening at a time of great chaos The 2 forms of communications are totally different. They got one right (silence on the transfers), they got the other horribly wrong. wouldn't they just be accused of spinning their side of the story ?.

yet to some the protests are largely just those supporting keegan without any knowledge as to what has went on (which no-one outside of ashley,keegan,wise,llambias and jiminez actually know)

Perhaps we should sacrifice a goat or something as well on TV? many want to sacrifice a Llamb serve and volley tooj. thanks for the set up.

Perhaps we should sacrifice a goat or something as well on TV? many want to sacrifice a Llamb

The club's statement listing their 'facts' contradicted their earlier public statements and were issued in order to blame Keegan. issued in response to keegans earlier "let the manager manage" line as issued on his behalf by the LMA.

How much is the bloke who owns Sage worth? There is not going to be a Geordie white knight riding in to rescue us, nor a consortium either. Wylie is probably the only noorth easterner in that league nowadays but I doubt he would touch it with a barge pole having seen whats gone on in the last days. The fans (some) wanted Ashley out. They may soon think they should have been careful about what they wished for. plenty of people also wanted the last lot out, and should have been careful what they wished for. Simple fact is we are back to square 1. We are looking for an owner who will have good intentions for the club, and also crucially understands football and the need to support their manager. Its all a bit sad. Ultimately, the only losers are us, the fans. Some of us have stumped up a lot of money, and not been given what we quite reasonably expected to get for it. the big mistake is to expect. we two have been in this long enough to know that.

rumours that were catagorically denied officially and usually some leak would come out from another club to say he had been hawked to them. which hasn't happened.

hell ?

if he had everyone would have said "heard it before from shepherd. i'd rather you said nowt and we'll judge you by your actions"

Would you stay on at your job if you believed you were being undermimed? How anyone can paint KK as a villain in this i don't know. Your last sentence sums it up. Maybe he resigned for the good of the club, to force Ashley to sell, and help the club move forward. I just don't buy Ashleys sob story. Bloody hell. That's wrong on so many levels it's frightening. I'm not saying that is right. I'm saying that it's a damn sight better than KK staying on and working under false pretences. Keegan knows what is best for this club, and if he felt that it wasn't going in the right direction, then he wouldn't stick around and pretend everything was OK. unforunatly it'll always take 2nd place to what is best for kevin keegan.

ashley sid he was prepared to put in £20mill per year. i'd guess this was on top of transfer fees brought in and any operating profits.

Ashley's plan was to clear debts, make us financially stable and develop good youth talent, so that we're producing players with a good sell on value. However long down the lie, he could then sell for a big profit and return on his investment. Chairman live and die by their managerial decisions in effect. He got rid of Allardyce who he probably wouldn't have wanted but bringing back Keegan to appease fans and then undermining and marginalising him, was ridiculous. If the fans had just accepted Keegan leaving, then who would come in? Paul Ince or Poyet? We'd become a stable, mid table club maybe but crowds would drop, we'd lose key players like Owen cheap and debts would remain. i'm not even sure if it was to get a return but to use that cash for the club and build from there. any return would come from the sale of a self funding succesful club.

Ashley was an idiot for working to the deadline, he was told that the deadline was imposed to prevent news getting out which would cause the club problems. Sir John imposed the deadline, not Ashley so whoever told you that is wrong, fact. Sorry if that appears arrogant but it's true. Not getting into a row about the deadline. I have my sources, you have yours. Agree to disagree. But if Ashley was willing to buy the club without appropriate due dilligence then he's not fit to run the club and deserves to have his fingers burnt by losing money on NUFC. i don't really see what difference it makes anyway. it reads like he had to put in more than he thought and did it. wanted the club to self sustain and says he was prepared to put in £20mill per season aswell. (begs the question of what happened to that £20mill this window, was the cash there but not used due to in fighting behind the scenes ?)

You obviously don't like evidence then. Keegan said he had final say on all transfer matters. Wise said Keegan had final say on all transfer matters. Ashley said Keegan had final say on all transfer matters. The club then issue a statement saying that he knew he wouldn't have control of transfers. Bollocks did he. I really really can't see how people can blame Keegan for this. he said that when he knew he didn't. as much a lie as when ashley sid he had the final say when knowing he didn't

True, but Wise should simply realise he's not wanted here and resign. He surely can't enjoy being hated by so many. Given the clubs financial concerns that Ashley's put across, Keegan would obviously have to be reasonable in deamanding transfer money. Granted we should watch what we're spending, but smaller clubs seem to get by on half the gate money, shirt sales etc than we do. This is Dennis Wise the man universally hated by all football fans, excluding Chelsea and Wimbledon. Dont think he's cares what people think about him as long as he's getting paid. Was chatting to a leicester fan who pointed out that Wise nearly put them out of existence when he was suing them for unfair dismissal despite the fact he had assaulted the club captain, breaking his jaw in the process. The guy is scum, pure and simple. and the manager everyone is screaming for went mental when we tried to get rid of joey "cuddly" barton. if we don't want scum at the club lets go top to bottom eh ?

How do you know Keegan isn't to blame for this? Thought so... isnt to blame for what?....being unable to operate when the bloke buying the players daren't even show his face in the city? Isn't to blame for falling out with Wise or Ashley or anyone....you or me or anyone else here actually knows f*** all about whats has happened behind the scenes but still try to state things as facts. IT is A FACT, kevin keegan was told to wait in his office for denis wise. Whan he eventually turned up, he laid the law down to him, in a manner he would never accept being spoken to himself. BTW, the players were aware of this......1-2 v Hull.......do you see the conection??? the story i heard last night was that towards the end of the window keegan vetoed everyone put forwrd by vetere and wise and wanted some unrealistic signings in order to stress his authority. like yours,its just a story i heard and don't actually have any proof.

1,clubs cannot run up debt. they have to survive on what they have. 2, clubs have to name a 23 man squad which they can use through the season. at least 5 of which must have been in their academy. 3. booking for any dissent. 4 unless it is obvious that a player is seriuosly injured,play carries on and the physio can come on to treat the player who is classed as out of the game,as soon as he can he must leave the field of play and the ref waits till a breakdown in play to allow him back on. 5 timekeeping to be kept by an off the pitch official and displayed for all to see. this official will stop the clock whenever the ball is dead (as in basketball) 6 advantage to be played until the conclusion of a move and play can be brought back if advatagous to the team who were transgressed against. (rugby union style) 7. only the captain to talk to the referee. 8 special tv programme on a sunday highlighting those who cheated and calling them as such. 9 bring back standing terraces. 10 treat the obstruction rule as such when players are letting it roll out of play.

So what happens if keegan targets the wrong type of players? They fail. Just like hundreds of multi-million pound players up and down the country do every year. He then lives and dies by that, as the man with the final say. I don't see why Keegan is viewed by some as an irresponsible spender. given the choice i wouldn't want keegan making those decisions on his own. i don't trust him blindly.

how has the club got plenty of debt ? and we may have a whole lot more should any potential buyer do a glazier.