Wullie

Fuck. This is what I've said before about creating an atmosphere at a club that makes players want away, but of course it'll be Jose who's hated when he goes while our scum owner will get off lightly yet again. Yes he wants to play for a champions league club so the important thing for NUFC to do is show that that is our target, like villa and liverpool have. We're just happy to roll over and say 'wanted away, look' and act like those clubs are something special that we can never be, despite nearly 15 years of evidence to the contrary.

Lose the Cheik and that's an excellent song.

Tremendous result tonight, three of the biggest points we'll get all season.

We held onto Kieron Dyer despite massive bids reportedly coming in for him.

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I'd forgotten about that was too.

Mackems, Spurs? Arsenal away, West Ham, Everton etc? Don't defend Hughton, the cunt.

No doubt neesy is going to lick the bus windows on the way to work in the morning.

So the manager is to blame for the poor finishing of his side, laughable. Why didn't he buy a striker? Because he wasn't given any money? Well he claims it was because he was so impressed with the ones we've got. Well after weeks of claiming that he was going to "bang on the door of the chairman", he was hardly going to turn around and say "Oh well, I'm a gullible b******. He didn't give me any money which is a shame, because all the strikers we've got are s***" Well after weeks of telling us Andy Carroll wasn't for sale, he sold him so that's an absolutely ridiculous point. Mick has made the point for me - why bring in an injured midfielder instead of, for example, Sturridge? Because the money was probably already earmarked for HBA and I doubt Pardew even had much of a say in it either. My point is, the blame for me lies squarely at the door of the boardroom. I don't blame Pardew for not signing anyone in the window. Like Hughton before him, he's just making the best of a bad situation. He's just an irrelevant puppet in this whole charade. Why bring in Ireland instead of a loan striker? Because when we started the Ireland deal, we were desperately short in midfield, Carroll was still a NUFC player and Shola didn't have a fractured jaw. That's utter drivel. Our first choice midfield four were all available other than one who was suspended and would be back before Ireland was fit, Carroll we knew was injured for weeks or months and Shola is Shola, consistently either injured or s***. We've been desperate for another striker all season, not to mention the fact that we were actively attempting to sell Carroll. and again an anti Ashley protester using the Carroll sale to big up their argument. What on Earth are you talking about? You talking about the club actively looking to sell Carroll. Obviously the club asked Carroll to ask for a new contract and forced him to put in a transfer request. You are speculating basically. I'm not speculating. I'm stating what anyone with a brain cell can see was absolutely f***ing obvious. If you don't want to see what's right in front of your nose then don't, but don't claim that anyone who does is speculating. It is speculating, your just using your f***ing bias against Ashley to twist your own view of what happened. He's using quotes from Liverpool's chairman, actually. What quotes, also believing the Liverpool chairman is laughable. They also said they didn't want to sell Torres and look what happened. But you'll believe anything fed to you by our proven liars? name anyone in football management (playing or board side) who isn't a proven liar ? Proven in court? Not many I imagine.

we had andy cole and then we had paul kitson. it happens. we had a 12million winger in milner should we have kept him or is it wullies world of faves again ? Of course we should have kept Milner. Dear me.

So the manager is to blame for the poor finishing of his side, laughable. Why didn't he buy a striker? Because he wasn't given any money? Well he claims it was because he was so impressed with the ones we've got. Well after weeks of claiming that he was going to "bang on the door of the chairman", he was hardly going to turn around and say "Oh well, I'm a gullible b******. He didn't give me any money which is a shame, because all the strikers we've got are s***" Well after weeks of telling us Andy Carroll wasn't for sale, he sold him so that's an absolutely ridiculous point. Mick has made the point for me - why bring in an injured midfielder instead of, for example, Sturridge? Because the money was probably already earmarked for HBA and I doubt Pardew even had much of a say in it either. My point is, the blame for me lies squarely at the door of the boardroom. I don't blame Pardew for not signing anyone in the window. Like Hughton before him, he's just making the best of a bad situation. He's just an irrelevant puppet in this whole charade. Why bring in Ireland instead of a loan striker? Because when we started the Ireland deal, we were desperately short in midfield, Carroll was still a NUFC player and Shola didn't have a fractured jaw. That's utter drivel. Our first choice midfield four were all available other than one who was suspended and would be back before Ireland was fit, Carroll we knew was injured for weeks or months and Shola is Shola, consistently either injured or shit. We've been desperate for another striker all season, not to mention the fact that we were actively attempting to sell Carroll. and again an anti Ashley protester using the Carroll sale to big up their argument. What on Earth are you talking about? You talking about the club actively looking to sell Carroll. Obviously the club asked Carroll to ask for a new contract and forced him to put in a transfer request. You are speculating basically. I'm not speculating. I'm stating what anyone with a brain cell can see was absolutely fucking obvious. If you don't want to see what's right in front of your nose then don't, but don't claim that anyone who does is speculating. It is speculating, your just using your fucking bias against Ashley to twist your own view of what happened. He's using quotes from Liverpool's chairman, actually. What quotes, also believing the Liverpool chairman is laughable. They also said they didn't want to sell Torres and look what happened. But you'll believe anything fed to you by our proven liars?

I do find it very funny/pathetic that the club have tried to peddle the "he was injured" line as a good reason for getting rid. The same club that recently bought a player with a broken leg and a player with severe cruciate ligament damage. Funny that they've tried it and pathetic that some buy it.

Jesus Christ! We've still fucking sold him you know, when he's fit and playing for Liverpool, we're not suddenly going to start taking our chances. We had a £35m striker. Now we don't have a £35m striker, we have Lovenkrands and Best. But because he's injured for a couple of weeks, that was a good deal?

Based on what? Missing enough chances to win ten games in three of our recent matches?

Try to talk him into staying instead of throwing the towel in. And if he doesn't, he's just signed a new deal so what difference does it make what he wants? why do most clubs let players go who want away, especially when the price seems ridiculous ? I'm not interested in most clubs, I'm interested in Newcastle hanging onto their best players. Also, if you deliberately create an atmosphere that players will want to get away from, I don't think it should really get you off the hook when they do want to, do you?

I disagree, but assuming you're taking the mick out of the idea, I'd also and say him not being Chris Hughton is important in itself, never mind the qualities he offered. He'd done special things for this club, he had a relationship with supporters that means he should be offered loyalty and seen as more than just 'manager x'. I'm not saying this is itself should be held against Pardew (not saying it shouldn't either...), but I think it's an important point to make as I've seen displays of disloyalty towards him around that I'd consider no different to gloryhunting. If you're not going to be bothered about a good person being dumped, especially if you agree there's no good reason, let alone actually screwed in the process, then what's the point of it all? Yep, some of the hypocrisy going round re: Hughton/Carroll is nauseatingly pathetic. People demand, demand, DEMAND loyalty from players but are more than happy to see NUFC screw a good man and a good manager over for no decent reason.

Try to talk him into staying instead of throwing the towel in. And if he doesn't, he's just signed a new deal so what difference does it make what he wants?

Pardew told him to put it in writing, not forced but suggested. carroll said if he wasn't given a new contract he wanted to talk to liverpool, thats what pardew told him to put in writing. ie a transfer request. Why was he told about the bid from Liverpool?

So the manager is to blame for the poor finishing of his side, laughable. Why didn't he buy a striker? Because he wasn't given any money? Well he claims it was because he was so impressed with the ones we've got. Well after weeks of claiming that he was going to "bang on the door of the chairman", he was hardly going to turn around and say "Oh well, I'm a gullible b******. He didn't give me any money which is a shame, because all the strikers we've got are s***" Well after weeks of telling us Andy Carroll wasn't for sale, he sold him so that's an absolutely ridiculous point. Mick has made the point for me - why bring in an injured midfielder instead of, for example, Sturridge? Because the money was probably already earmarked for HBA and I doubt Pardew even had much of a say in it either. My point is, the blame for me lies squarely at the door of the boardroom. I don't blame Pardew for not signing anyone in the window. Like Hughton before him, he's just making the best of a bad situation. He's just an irrelevant puppet in this whole charade. Why bring in Ireland instead of a loan striker? Because when we started the Ireland deal, we were desperately short in midfield, Carroll was still a NUFC player and Shola didn't have a fractured jaw. That's utter drivel. Our first choice midfield four were all available other than one who was suspended and would be back before Ireland was fit, Carroll we knew was injured for weeks or months and Shola is Shola, consistently either injured or shit. We've been desperate for another striker all season, not to mention the fact that we were actively attempting to sell Carroll. and again an anti Ashley protester using the Carroll sale to big up their argument. What on Earth are you talking about? You talking about the club actively looking to sell Carroll. Obviously the club asked Carroll to ask for a new contract and forced him to put in a transfer request. You are speculating basically. Gullible doesn't begin to describe it. I'm not speculating. I'm stating what anyone with a brain cell can see was absolutely fucking obvious. If you don't want to see what's right in front of your nose then don't, but don't claim that anyone who does is speculating.

Eh?! Milner? N'Zogbia? Given? Bassong? Beye? Faye? A ludicrous post.

So the manager is to blame for the poor finishing of his side, laughable. Why didn't he buy a striker? Because he wasn't given any money? Well he claims it was because he was so impressed with the ones we've got. Well after weeks of claiming that he was going to "bang on the door of the chairman", he was hardly going to turn around and say "Oh well, I'm a gullible b******. He didn't give me any money which is a shame, because all the strikers we've got are s***" Well after weeks of telling us Andy Carroll wasn't for sale, he sold him so that's an absolutely ridiculous point. Mick has made the point for me - why bring in an injured midfielder instead of, for example, Sturridge? Because the money was probably already earmarked for HBA and I doubt Pardew even had much of a say in it either. My point is, the blame for me lies squarely at the door of the boardroom. I don't blame Pardew for not signing anyone in the window. Like Hughton before him, he's just making the best of a bad situation. He's just an irrelevant puppet in this whole charade. Why bring in Ireland instead of a loan striker? Because when we started the Ireland deal, we were desperately short in midfield, Carroll was still a NUFC player and Shola didn't have a fractured jaw. That's utter drivel. Our first choice midfield four were all available other than one who was suspended and would be back before Ireland was fit, Carroll we knew was injured for weeks or months and Shola is Shola, consistently either injured or shit. We've been desperate for another striker all season, not to mention the fact that we were actively attempting to sell Carroll. and again an anti Ashley protester using the Carroll sale to big up their argument. What on Earth are you talking about?

Bull? I thought it was a huge forehead tache.

Some of the mackems have got faces that really need a good smack, Gyan and Richardson in particular. That's opposed to their manager who already looks like a bust of that photo of Andy O'Brien being hit with the ball.

Fuck yeah!

Exactly. Plus he gave Lovenkrands a 3 year deal, hardly a Championship related deal there We were in the Championship at the time. Would you prefer the manager to make his decisions based on where YOU think (using hindsight) we would have been in a year's time? Dear me. EDIT: you actually thought we'd only manage the play-offs, so that's a likely two years in the Championship at least: http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/index.php/topic,63682.msg1920023.html#msg1920023 Bit rich criticizing the contract in that case. The manager shouldn't be giving players contracts based on hopes and assumption, and he didn't.