Wullie

What we really need is a scouting network.

Reality is our first team is now worse than it was in December. Of the £10M Kinnear allegedly was handed for transfers, the club have spunked a whopping f*** all, not counting profit from the sales of our best player and a whinging French c***. harper or given? given is better, although its a lot closer than some people think. nolan or butt, geremi, smith or the ever reliable barton? thats easy. lovenkrands or n'zogbia? a player who wouldnt have ever kicked a ball for us again or anybody? easy. taylor is very versatile and a decent player who'll add depth. if kinnear was handed £10 million then blame him if you're not happy. I've seen you made this point a few times already, but up until this week N'Zogbia was willing to play for us and arguably one of our few players capable of creating anything resembling a goalscoring opportunity, which is something you completely fail to consider.. Not to mention one of the few players who could run 10 yards without needing an inhaler. Not to mention that he was a whinging little s*** who has been trying to get away from the club for the past three years, Or that despite running around the pitch aimlessly with his wonderful "pace," he was a complete headless chicken who's produced about as much as Damien f***ing Duff over the past three years. That's bollocks though. He's produced vastly more despite having no more than a dozen games in the same position. Same numbers of goals and assists. Roughly the same number of appearances (around 60 over the past 3 years) because Duff has been injured so often. Zog is case in point #1 of the "OMG he's got pace he's got to be awesome" syndrome. What other positive qualities are there to his game other than being able to take on his man once in a blue moon? Duff also creates smooth, creative moves maybe once every couple of games. But when he does it it's a one-off. Zog just looks better because he's moving really fast when he's doing it. Neither contributes enough. How on Earth do you come to the conclusion that they have the same number of assists? I'd count the number of games N'Zogbia has played on the left wing if I could be bothered. Bet it's no more than 15. Because they both have an assist and a goal apiece this season. They're both players who rarely produce anything of substance. As for Zog, he's played around 15 games on the left wing this season alone. Charlie got seven assists last season. Duff has one in the past two years. Your last sentence is ludicrous. I count seven (3 wins, 3 draws, 1 defeat, including our best run of the season). So I went and actually did the research. Dear God I don't believe I bothered to dig all of this up. Duff has 67 apps, 5 goals, and 6 assists in the past three seasons. Zog has 68 apps, 5 goals, and 10 assists. So yeah he does assist more. Still pretty piss poor records for both though. As for Zog's games started on left wing this year Coventry City Away Win Arsenal Away Loss Spurs Home (CC) Loss Blackburn Home Loss Everton Away Draw Wigan Home Draw Chelsea Away Draw Boro Away Draw Stoke Home Draw Portsmouth Away Win Spurs Home Win Wigan Away Loss Liverpool Home Loss The two Hull fiascos Blackburn Away Loss That's sixteen starts on the left wing. Ludicrous? Most of those 68 games of Charlie's have been at left back so it's a ludicrous comparison in terms of goals and assists, yet he still manages to come out on top. They're also largely in fits and starts rather than a consistent run in the team which makes a massive difference in terms of form and confidence. I've underestimated the amount of games he's played there, you're right, but some of them in there are wrong, the two Hull games and the two Wigan games mainly. He was having a superb run before Wigan (a), was shuffled to LB for the despicable Duff and that's where this current fiasco with him started and ended, at the JJB.

I said weeks ago that I wouldn't accept any amount of money because it wouldn't be reinvested and the only players I would have taken were Robinho and Ireland because they're the only ones at Citeh who come close to Shay's worth. £6m is disgusting. Guess that idea of the club being brilliant at getting money out of clubs is another load of shite.

Reality is our first team is now worse than it was in December. Of the £10M Kinnear allegedly was handed for transfers, the club have spunked a whopping f*** all, not counting profit from the sales of our best player and a whinging French c***. harper or given? given is better, although its a lot closer than some people think. nolan or butt, geremi, smith or the ever reliable barton? thats easy. lovenkrands or n'zogbia? a player who wouldnt have ever kicked a ball for us again or anybody? easy. taylor is very versatile and a decent player who'll add depth. if kinnear was handed £10 million then blame him if you're not happy. I've seen you made this point a few times already, but up until this week N'Zogbia was willing to play for us and arguably one of our few players capable of creating anything resembling a goalscoring opportunity, which is something you completely fail to consider.. Not to mention one of the few players who could run 10 yards without needing an inhaler. Not to mention that he was a whinging little s*** who has been trying to get away from the club for the past three years, Or that despite running around the pitch aimlessly with his wonderful "pace," he was a complete headless chicken who's produced about as much as Damien f***ing Duff over the past three years. That's bollocks though. He's produced vastly more despite having no more than a dozen games in the same position. Same numbers of goals and assists. Roughly the same number of appearances (around 60 over the past 3 years) because Duff has been injured so often. Zog is case in point #1 of the "OMG he's got pace he's got to be awesome" syndrome. What other positive qualities are there to his game other than being able to take on his man once in a blue moon? Duff also creates smooth, creative moves maybe once every couple of games. But when he does it it's a one-off. Zog just looks better because he's moving really fast when he's doing it. Neither contributes enough. How on Earth do you come to the conclusion that they have the same number of assists? I'd count the number of games N'Zogbia has played on the left wing if I could be bothered. Bet it's no more than 15. Because they both have an assist and a goal apiece this season. They're both players who rarely produce anything of substance. As for Zog, he's played around 15 games on the left wing this season alone. Charlie got seven assists last season. Duff has one in the past two years. Your last sentence is ludicrous. I count seven (3 wins, 3 draws, 1 defeat, including our best run of the season).

Reality is our first team is now worse than it was in December. Of the £10M Kinnear allegedly was handed for transfers, the club have spunked a whopping f*** all, not counting profit from the sales of our best player and a whinging French c***. harper or given? given is better, although its a lot closer than some people think. nolan or butt, geremi, smith or the ever reliable barton? thats easy. lovenkrands or n'zogbia? a player who wouldnt have ever kicked a ball for us again or anybody? easy. taylor is very versatile and a decent player who'll add depth. if kinnear was handed £10 million then blame him if you're not happy. I've seen you made this point a few times already, but up until this week N'Zogbia was willing to play for us and arguably one of our few players capable of creating anything resembling a goalscoring opportunity, which is something you completely fail to consider.. Not to mention one of the few players who could run 10 yards without needing an inhaler. Not to mention that he was a whinging little s*** who has been trying to get away from the club for the past three years, Or that despite running around the pitch aimlessly with his wonderful "pace," he was a complete headless chicken who's produced about as much as Damien f***ing Duff over the past three years. That's bollocks though. He's produced vastly more despite having no more than a dozen games in the same position. Same numbers of goals and assists. Roughly the same number of appearances (around 60 over the past 3 years) because Duff has been injured so often. Zog is case in point #1 of the "OMG he's got pace he's got to be awesome" syndrome. What other positive qualities are there to his game other than being able to take on his man once in a blue moon? Duff also creates smooth, creative moves maybe once every couple of games. But when he does it it's a one-off. Zog just looks better because he's moving really fast when he's doing it. Neither contributes enough. How on Earth do you come to the conclusion that they have the same number of assists? I'd count the number of games N'Zogbia has played on the left wing if I could be bothered. Bet it's no more than 15.

Reality is our first team is now worse than it was in December. Of the £10M Kinnear allegedly was handed for transfers, the club have spunked a whopping f*** all, not counting profit from the sales of our best player and a whinging French c***. harper or given? given is better, although its a lot closer than some people think. nolan or butt, geremi, smith or the ever reliable barton? thats easy. lovenkrands or n'zogbia? a player who wouldnt have ever kicked a ball for us again or anybody? easy. taylor is very versatile and a decent player who'll add depth. if kinnear was handed £10 million then blame him if you're not happy. I've seen you made this point a few times already, but up until this week N'Zogbia was willing to play for us and arguably one of our few players capable of creating anything resembling a goalscoring opportunity, which is something you completely fail to consider.. Not to mention one of the few players who could run 10 yards without needing an inhaler. Not to mention that he was a whinging little s*** who has been trying to get away from the club for the past three years, Or that despite running around the pitch aimlessly with his wonderful "pace," he was a complete headless chicken who's produced about as much as Damien f***ing Duff over the past three years. That's bollocks though. He's produced vastly more despite having no more than a dozen games in the same position.

That's irrelevant when it comes to the issue of whether his leaving has weakened us though. Our best run of form came with him in the side and I think it has. We saw on Sunday how much one weak flank inhibits our game. Double/treble up on Jonas and stop us playing.

Unfortunately, it's a gamble we have to take.

If we explain this to the Premier League will they let us stay up?

But we've played the games so far with Michael Owen, Habib Beye, Danny Guthrie, Charles N'Zogbia, Shay Given, Joey Barton to an extent, and still hover above the drop zone on goal difference. The squad is now weaker, those players are now either gone or crocked and the fixtures now get harder. West Brom on Saturday is the biggest game we've played since Pompey at home in 1992 imo. Michael Owen has been beyond terrible since declining his new contract, Carroll has looked decent, and proved that he can score goals. Beye we will miss, no doubt. Guthrie has been replaced by Nolan, which in a relegation fight probably will be an upgrade. N'Zogbia is massively overrated and I'd rather have Duff on the wing than him. Shay will be missed, but if we get relegated, it won't be because we sold him. Barton has played, what, three games? Add to this that Martins is on his way back, and that we've got better cover now than we did before January and Nicky Butt away from our starting eleven in a few weeks and I can't understand how anyone can be certain that we're going down. Aye Barton's played three games and we won two of them. Not far off the same stats for Charles N'Zogbia on the left wing as it happens. How the fuck is Nicky Butt away from the line up in a few weeks? Guthrie and Nolan Guthrie who's probably out for the season? Regardless, if you think JFK is doing to drop Butt, you're going to be sorely disappointed.

But we've played the games so far with Michael Owen, Habib Beye, Danny Guthrie, Charles N'Zogbia, Shay Given, Joey Barton to an extent, and still hover above the drop zone on goal difference. The squad is now weaker, those players are now either gone or crocked and the fixtures now get harder. West Brom on Saturday is the biggest game we've played since Pompey at home in 1992 imo. Michael Owen has been beyond terrible since declining his new contract, Carroll has looked decent, and proved that he can score goals. Beye we will miss, no doubt. Guthrie has been replaced by Nolan, which in a relegation fight probably will be an upgrade. N'Zogbia is massively overrated and I'd rather have Duff on the wing than him. Shay will be missed, but if we get relegated, it won't be because we sold him. Barton has played, what, three games? Add to this that Martins is on his way back, and that we've got better cover now than we did before January and Nicky Butt away from our starting eleven in a few weeks and I can't understand how anyone can be certain that we're going down. Aye Barton's played three games and we won two of them. Not far off the same stats for Charles N'Zogbia on the left wing as it happens. How is Nicky Butt away from the line up in a few weeks? And if Michael Owen is beyond terrible, who the fuck else would have scored eight league goals this season? Martins is our only possible saving grace.

But we've played the games so far with Michael Owen, Habib Beye, Danny Guthrie, Charles N'Zogbia, Shay Given, Joey Barton to an extent, and still hover above the drop zone on goal difference. The squad is now weaker, those players are now either gone or crocked and the fixtures now get harder. West Brom on Saturday is the biggest game we've played since Pompey at home in 1992 imo.

He never stood a chance, the volume and signings that would have made people praise him was impossible. (Sorry, but it's could have.) Utter bollocks. In what way? I know you're an intelligent poster, so what would have been 'good enough'? And also, how would that compare to what a premiership club has ever done in a January window? Premiership survival would have suited me. I realise that was a bit much to ask for. Are we relegated then? Shit, I take it all back. So because we're not mathematically gone now, he's done enough? Dear me.

He never stood a chance, the volume and signings that would have made people praise him was impossible. (Sorry, but it's could have.) Utter bollocks. In what way? I know you're an intelligent poster, so what would have been 'good enough'? And also, how would that compare to what a premiership club has ever done in a January window? Premiership survival would have suited me. I realise that was a bit much to ask for.

Exactly, how much of a mug would you have to be to think the squad has improved?

The squad is far weaker now than it has been on average throughout the season so far and will remain that way for the foreseeable.

Solid 9. Can't see any realistic way back now.

They blatantly had 4 players signed just 2 hours ago? Just ignore him, does this every window; an absolute joke of a human being. Now now, thats a bit OTT and nasty. Seriously, the boy spouts so much shite its fucking coma-inducing. If i was to make a pile of all of his 'hunches' that never made it we'd all be weeping before a mountain of his own ignorance. I imagine after he's finished frollicking in a meadow talking to fucking flowers, he'll be back here claiming that the 16 million not spent is going into the kitty to fund a 25 million pound summer swoop for quaresma. Honestly he's a loon, an absolute clown, and probably types with his tongue to impress his carer.

30 people voted for more than £10m? Who are these people and why are they allowed access to a computer?

I think that's the penultimate nail in the relegation coffin hammered in today. We have one hope of staying up and his name is Obafemi Martins.

Nowt will happen man. It's transfer deadline day, when has what actually happens ever mattered?

I'm going to be able to get fuck all done at work tomorrow. Group emails ftw.

Thought it was a rick from Colo at the time but it was Nicky Butt's fault really, stupid header to play back.

That free kick did give me a laugh I suppose.

Why? Because despite the current situation we're still a far bigger club than they are. Had he left for ManU, Arsenal or an equivalent foreign team he could have justifiably claimed he was going up in the world, but going to City proves it was motivated, primarily, by money. He has maybe 5 years left of his playing career. Honestly out of us and Man City who do you think are more likely to be playing in Europe/maybe winning things in the next 5 years? Right now? Probably them, but I don't think that was his prime motivation when he chose Citeh. I think it had more to do with money. Based on absolutely nothing.