Dokko

I fear we will never know. 96 was the best chance i can see us ever having in my lifetime (I am 36) We've had chances, and we'll have more. One day, we'll do it. Think how close we've come to the FA Cup or even the UEFA Cup. We'll get one of those bastards one of these days. Humiliated? Aye...Very close mate. Well, making it to the final is as close as you can get to winning without actually, well, winning. I'd rather go out in the 3rd round than see what i saw in both our recent FA cup finals.

I fear we will never know. 96 was the best chance i can see us ever having in my lifetime (I am 36) We've had chances, and we'll have more. One day, we'll do it. Think how close we've come to the FA Cup or even the UEFA Cup. We'll get one of those bastards one of these days. Humiliated? Aye...Very close mate.

You give our manager far too much credit.

Funny how I skimmed over that part at first. Twas a sly one.

Think it is more likely to be a reduction for the January sales. But January sales are there to rid a place of old stock or seasoned stock, not to get rid of stuff which can be still sold at top price further on in the year.

Just seen a vid clip on SSN's mainly about SA and how little time he's got left in his job, but then it went off on one about 'January sales' etc...and showed the home toon tops in the SJP shop marked down by 25%. Is this and indication were getting a new strip and is does that mean were a step closer to Virgin on our shirts?

Its a FACT the only FACT about these days is that the word FACT is being used far too much on this forum.

Well, if you deem the majority of Newcastle United first team not bein able to control and pass the ball, then how do you see the vast vast vast majority of professional footballers who earn a living by playing football in all over the world, including those in Iraq, Malaysia, Spain or England? Shola Ameobi not a professional footballer then, despite scoring quite some goals in Premiership? Steven Gerrard and Frank Lampard not professional footballers then, despite representing England National Football Team countless times? I think you are living in a fallacy with your own fancy definition of professional footballers, you are out of touch with the real world and your opinions on football should not be heeded henceforth. I honestly havent a clue what that is meant to be telling me Don't worry, Delima often just picks up the wrong end of an argument, then runs around making aeroplane noises until a grown-up comes and collects him. mackems.gif

But are we doing s***? No. Were in mid table, yes we are inconsistent, yes our football is s*** but we are hardly in turmoil! We were never going to finish above top 8, I'm sorry if this offends people but our squad was never going to be up to it. Sam inherrited a side full of s***, got rid of the worst, tried to attract the players he needed and did well with some, s*** with others. A couple of players bounced us back, but is it a surprise? Are we an attractive prospect? No. Just look in the three siginings thread. Think realistically who would come? Aimed at no one in particular players like VDV and Diego will never come to a mid table premiership side. The need now is to work with what we have, provide some stability, attempt to bring in some payers who can do a job, raise our reputation and push us towards europe in a season or two. I seriuosly doubt cutting off Sam is the right move, look at the clubs doing well, Blackburn, Villa, Everton - all stuck with their managers, even in the harder times and now reaping the rewards. We are last years Aston Villa tbh. We could be this year's Citeh (best of the rest) without the goals if we played everyone in position in a 442. It really is that simple. I don't believe this to be true. But we can never know. Will the magic 4-4-2 make our players play as a team? I don't agree or disagree. Its an unkonwn thing tbh. Wouldn't we still hoof it in 4-4-2? I think I put all my points in that post. I doubt a formations change is the problem. The issue for me is the mentality. Sam needs to start thinking to go out and play so the other side have to contain us. I hope he can change before we sack again.. The mentality issue is a huge problem, but the players are far more comfortable in a 442 we'd certainly have at least 10 more points if we played that all season.

But are we doing shit? No. Were in mid table, yes we are inconsistent, yes our football is shit but we are hardly in turmoil! We were never going to finish above top 8, I'm sorry if this offends people but our squad was never going to be up to it. Sam inherrited a side full of shit, got rid of the worst, tried to attract the players he needed and did well with some, shit with others. A couple of players bounced us back, but is it a surprise? Are we an attractive prospect? No. Just look in the three siginings thread. Think realistically who would come? Aimed at no one in particular players like VDV and Diego will never come to a mid table premiership side. The need now is to work with what we have, provide some stability, attempt to bring in some payers who can do a job, raise our reputation and push us towards europe in a season or two. I seriuosly doubt cutting off Sam is the right move, look at the clubs doing well, Blackburn, Villa, Everton - all stuck with their managers, even in the harder times and now reaping the rewards. We are last years Aston Villa tbh. We could be this year's Citeh (best of the rest) without the goals if we played everyone in position in a 442. It really is that simple.

Name calling very good. NE5 style posting no good. Sorry, couldn't understand what tosh you were speaking, not that am that arsed, only i do like to reply to people who quote me, even if they are talking gibberish. I think he was trying to say that a team considered half-decent isn't good enough to finish mid-table. Spurs have a half decent squad, Everton have one too, they manage it (Europe) Everton on a shoestring budget nevermind billionaire owner. And how long has Moyes been in charge? How long has Sven been in charge? Look you keep pointing to Man City... first off, we're only half way through the season. The wheels may yet come off. Second, and as I've already pointed out, they are one huge exception. We couldn't have expected to do half as well as they have. Any sensible supporter knew this would be a tough season for both clubs. As it happens Man City have performed well above expection. Doesn't mean we should expect it too. While I'm on... Everton under Moyes: 02/03 – 7th (no Europe) 03/04 – 17th (no Europe) 04/05 – 4th (Champion's league) 05/06 – 11th (no Europe) 06/07 – 6th (UEFA) At what point would he have been sacked as Newcastle manager? . Tbh we can attract a better manager than Moyes (he's average) now that we have new management and a very rich owner Moyes is most certainly average. I'd rate Allardyce over Moyes any day (and I'm not even an Allardyce fan). If given enough time Moyes can get his team into Europe then isn't that a case to give Allardyce time, rather than calling for his head after half a season? We'd have to get 1978 to confirm this but i'm sure Moyes didn't get there and be given time by playing players out of position and keep doing it even though it clearly costs points and made them unhappy, playing formations that didn't suit the players then blaming the players when it didn't work out!

People can apologise for SA as much as they want, truth is, he's under performed and it so have the team and there's only one person to blame, him. The fans expectations are as low as ever, all we wanted was clear progression, and i think thats not too much to ask for, clearly it is, and while Sam fuks on with his one dimensional football we as a club fall further away from those who are building proper foundations but are also doing the business now. People cry about give him time. He knew he didn't have time, he said so himself, he went for instant impact as well, don;'t fuking kid yourself he's just playing the long term game, why on earth has he signed so many players at the end of their careers? So their experience would carry them through. Its all bullshit, stop shovelling it.

Name calling very good. NE5 style posting no good. Sorry, couldn't understand what tosh you were speaking, not that am that arsed, only i do like to reply to people who quote me, even if they are talking gibberish. I think he was trying to say that a team considered half-decent isn't good enough to finish mid-table. Spurs have a half decent squad, Everton have one too, they manage it (Europe) Everton on a shoestring budget nevermind billionaire owner. And how long has Moyes been in charge? How long has Sven been in charge? Look you keep pointing to Man City... first off, we're only half way through the season. The wheels may yet come off. Second, and as I've already pointed out, they are one huge exception. We couldn't have expected to do half as well as they have. Any sensible supporter knew this would be a tough season for both clubs. As it happens Man City have performed well above expection. Doesn't mean we should expect it too. While I'm on... Everton under Moyes: 02/03 – 7th (no Europe) 03/04 – 17th (no Europe) 04/05 – 4th (Champion's league) 05/06 – 11th (no Europe) 06/07 – 6th (UEFA) At what point would he have been sacked as Newcastle manager? I mentioned Sven, once, but it thats me keep on mentioned Citeh then i'm very sorry. I take your point about Moyes second season though, but, he had a dogshit squad and a club on the verge of financial ruin back then.

Why can't we? Is it forum rules that we can't use it or something? Their season so far is the exception rather than the rule. There are several very obvious factors why they are doing significantly better than us. It's not a valid comparison whatsoever. What like a manager playing players in position, having decent tactics, organised formations and playing for the win? I can see why this would invalidate any argument.

Why can't we? Is it forum rules that we can't use it or something?

Name calling very good. NE5 style posting no good. Sorry, couldn't understand what tosh you were speaking, not that am that arsed, only i do like to reply to people who quote me, even if they are talking gibberish. I think he was trying to say that a team considered half-decent isn't good enough to finish mid-table. Spurs have a half decent squad, Everton have one too, they manage it (Europe) Everton on a shoestring budget nevermind billionaire owner. And how long has Moyes been in charge? How long has Sven been in charge?

Name calling very good. NE5 style posting no good. Sorry, couldn't understand what tosh you were speaking, not that am that arsed, only i do like to reply to people who quote me, even if they are talking gibberish. I think he was trying to say that a team considered half-decent isn't good enough to finish mid-table. Spurs have a half decent squad, Everton have one too, they manage it (Europe) Everton on a shoestring budget nevermind billionaire owner.

Name calling very good. NE5 style posting no good. Sorry, couldn't understand what tosh you were speaking, not that am that arsed, only i do like to reply to people who quote me, even if they are talking gibberish.

This, close thread.

What a load of fuking s***. Billionaire owner, half decent team, and decent manager, we should be knocking on Europe's door by this time next year, no problem. You could forgive a few for hoping it could even be this year, we should be at least competitive. In your own words, Billionaire owner, half decent team, and decent manager - the midtable positio is reserved for decent teams! Seems like you are the one wit What a load of fuking s***. What are you bumbling about you jumped up moron?

Thought it was going to be about our injury list growning

What a load of fuking shit. Billionaire owner, half decent team, and decent manager, we should be knocking on Europe's door by this time next year, no problem. You could forgive a few for hoping it could even be this year, we should be at least competitive. Patience clearly in short supply in certain parts of the North East, then. There's a fine balance between patience and ambition, neither you or me decides where that line is, what I feel is correct cannot surely be seen as ridiculous or absurd surely considering even Roeder achieved that mark with a shit and crippled team, wanker of an owner and him being a overall crap manager.

What a load of fuking shit. Billionaire owner, half decent team, and decent manager, we should be knocking on Europe's door by this time next year, no problem. You could forgive a few for hoping it could even be this year, we should be at least competitive.

The same Martins who'd fuking off for the ANC for several weeks and we should be hammering his time on the pitch to keeps others fit and to pray he picks up a slight knock to keep him out of it.