James

I never insinuated anything of the sort.

I think it is time for Martinez. What is a unworthwhile risk for most could be a brilliant opportunity for him, and at least he has potential.

Hughton could do with all the help he can get. I know Sir Bobby's health isn't great, but would it be worth arranging for him to be on the end of the telephone as some sort of mentor/tactical assistant? Perhaps he could even come into the training ground once a week to talk to the players, try and get their confidence up?

Shit.

The World radio stream is the Terry Mac of all radio streams today.

We could be 5th by the end of the day.

Indi, you are my new hero.

Do you seriously think Ashley will be bothered about how our debt is paid off or how much we spend on transfers? Well his statement did say that he'd only sell to someone who had the resources to give us what we want. Whether true or not we have to wait and see, but Ken Bates did something similar with Abramovich for Chelsea's debt iirc. Although for now, no-one knows anything about anyones motives, so I'll just speculate on the speculation.

SSN just had the Arabian News businessman on the phone, so i'm guessing that's more up to date. Anil Bhoyrul? He usually has inside info: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4507448.stm Thanks for the link. This story should definitely be filed amongst the dodgy.

No, it's not possible. And you would know that how? No-one knows anything.

Fact is that a fans consortium couldn't afford the club, let alone afford to subsidise the operating costs that fans take for granted, let alone transfers and wages.

What about the other £1 million? Dennis Wise's payoff.

Is it at all possible that the 481m fee is 300m for the club, 80m to guarantee club debts, and a further 100m pledge towards transfers to make us lot accept them?

I stand corrected (again).

Beye is back according to the same link you sent. Why go with Lough when you got Edgar and Tozer? According to dotcom Beye is out for 10 weeks. Edgar went off injured on saturday and i was under the impression Tozer was crocked as well. Hughton has said that he expects Martins and Duff to be available for selection. I'd believe him over physioroom.com.

Blow Chris Mort's socls off.

A few did, but you just came back with... "It is a possibility" It may be unlikely, but it's still very possible, and by the looks of things quite common (granted more-so in smaller Private companies). I'd counter that with a view that is LESS likely in smaller private companies. In my experience (and as an auditor for 4 and a bit years I worked with a different company every couple of weeks of all sizes) the smaller the company the more direct control the owner has. Conversly, the larger the company the more diluted the ownership and the more delegated the control So what are your views on my original post, that he may have stripped himself of some of the say on matters regarding the day to day running of the club, with the employment of a Managing Director and Executive Directors. Bearing in mind that I'm basing this on A level economics so I don't, neither do I profess, to know the ins and outs. I'm just working off the way I understood it. The reality is halfway between your argument and other people's arguments. The board have some contractual protection from Ashley's interference, but if Ashley really wanted to change things, he could hand out the compo.

If Ashley gave roles to Llambias and co., he's given them a contract which states their responsibilities, and if he was to undermine these contracts, they could resign and sue for constructive dismissal. Ashley does ultimately have the ultimate authority, but only if he can/will pay for it.

I don't really know what more can be said and done. We all just have to support the team, even the likes of Shola, Duff and smith.

Fortunately it is a minor break, and he'll be back in November.

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They don't rule out circuses though.

This. To be honest, until we find new owners, the club is up shit creek without a paddle. Survival is again our main objective.

With the above in mind, a sale may take a little while, but I'm worried about what that could mean for NUFC in the short/medium term pre-sale.

How much is the bloke who owns Sage worth? There is not going to be a Geordie white knight riding in to rescue us, nor a consortium either. Wylie is probably the only noorth easterner in that league nowadays but I doubt he would touch it with a barge pole having seen whats gone on in the last days. The fans (some) wanted Ashley out. They may soon think they should have been careful about what they wished for. plenty of people also wanted the last lot out, and should have been careful what they wished for. Simple fact is we are back to square 1. We are looking for an owner who will have good intentions for the club, and also crucially understands football and the need to support their manager. Its all a bit sad. Ultimately, the only losers are us, the fans. Some of us have stumped up a lot of money, and not been given what we quite reasonably expected to get for it. Well from Ashley's statement, it sounds like Ashley was unable to make investments in our team due to how badly the previous lot fucked us up. I'm grateful he came in when he did, because things could be much worse.