The College Dropout

Aye, crap was a bit far. But he's not and never will be Arsenal quality. there's a few in that team that have no place tbh.

Not for teams like Everton or Newcastle.

Mentally he needs a reset. If anything he really needs a break away from football to evaluate himself and how the season went rather than being right in there and still worrying. From that I hope we get new club Pardew rather than a couple of years in Pardew who has painted himself in to a corner of negativity. Agreed. Neds some distance.

For Arsenal - he's the worst integral central midfielder they've had since Wenger took over. Petit - Edu - Silva - Flamini -Song - Fabregas - Vieira. His positional sense is far better than Song mind. He knows his role and sticks to it.

He's the best central midfielder at the club! Wilshere? He's the first Arsenal midfielder that needs replacing. He sits in front of the back 4 but offers little defensive cover. His passing is solid but they can do so much better. He was a panic signing that worked but clearly not good enough. Love Wilshere, but the guy can't even string 5 games together without missing for a month after! Arteta did a great job of initialising all their play from the back, something we could certainly do with in our poxy team. Think Arteta was ultimately forced to play so deep because they didn't get anyone else in. Arteta is a quality player for sure. Yeah he does a good job of that but IMO they would improve leaps and bounds if they had a top player in that position.

I'd argue we need both types of player, one who can hold the ball up and one who can stretch defenders. Well Cisse is always looking for balls through to goal. Many times along Ba someone in midfield would have the ball and both players would run away from the ball, it's so easy to defend against. 1 runs towards goal, 1 run towards ball - confusion galore.

He's the best central midfielder at the club! Wilshere? He's the first Arsenal midfielder that needs replacing. He sits in front of the back 4 but offers little defensive cover. His passing is solid but they can do so much better. He was a panic signing that worked but clearly not good enough.

For me Arteta is never Arsenal quality.

Don't want Remy. He';s another who looks to beat offside traps. Not seen much to say he can hold it up or link very well. His a good player no doubt.

Arteta is being boosted by the Arsenal/Wenger system. He's crap. He does a good job but any number of players could do it better. The best thing about Wenger is he makes players' look better than they are. Arteta is a prime example. They should break the bank to get Fabregas back.

Leroy Fer looks a player. Attacking a corner..... never....

Both sets of wide players, quick. looking to attack the fullback and carry the ball with intent. That Wijnaldum kid looks like a model.

I love KK btw. I just don't like us saying "I wish he was our boss now". If there was over "yesterday's man" its Keegan.

So on point. If anyone disagrees 100% with my posts they know nothing about football.

He was hugely impressive in the CL and based on that alone i don't know why he's not in Brazil's squad. But can't say i have seen him much outside of that. He looked a world better the 2 or so times I saw him play.

Man for man. Or talent wise. That AC Milan side over a 5 year period had the most ALL-STAR looking team. Not literally in the same team but still. Stam, Nesta, Maldini, Costacurta, Cafu, Gattusso, Rui Costa, Inzaghi, Shevchenko, Seedorf, Kaka, Crespo. I mean... wow.

Sven played 3 CM's at Euro06. Because Scholes played in a LM position doesn't change that fact. My point was simply, Ancelotti played 4 players who just want to pass, create and score. And a striker to boot. You can't tell me that's a boring manager.

His teams are exactly like you say, counter-attacking teams. Score the first goal and they'll sit back and wait to kill the game by counter-attacking. Good manager, but horrible philosophy (does get him the results though) in my opinion. Funny how his aging Chelsea side broke the PL goals record on the way to winning the double. Now SAF's retired Carlo's the very best manager on the planet. Total class act as a person, too. He's talking guff Ronaldo. Difference between me and you is that you're point comes from watching a Chelsea side playing one season, while my opinion comes from watching Milan throughout the last decade because my brothers are big Milan fans as well as watching Ibra and PSG on tv every week because that's all that goes on Swedish tv nowadays. I said the same about Mancini and got a lot of s***. Not necessarily comparing their style of play, but none of them have their team playing any attacking creative football. You're talking guff. I know you're talking guff because your time periods are all wrong. If you don't remember Kaka playing alongside Rui Costa when Inzaghi got crocked then you don't know your Serie A. ANCELOTTI IS THE ANTITHESIS OF MANCINI. Except the narrow thing.

Wow, what a point, you could field 10 offensive players and still not play an offensive creative football. Look at Mourinho and Real. CRonaldo, Benzema, Di Maria, Marcelo, Özil all played there and absolutely battered teams, still, it wasn't a offensive and creative team in that sense they were just individually more superior than most of their opposition. Mardid are a far harder working team than that Milan. That Milan played one way and it's pretty attacking. Very bad at having to grind out results or defend leads. Hence, Istanbul and Depor overturning a 4-1 deficit. Much like Chelsea, when they beat teams - they bloody beat em 3 or 4. No team with 1 #9 and 4 natural #10's in the same side is going to lack creativity like you have claimed mate. So just shut up and take this L. 4 #10 in the same side. Ambrossini, Gattuso and Pirlo (which one of them are the #10 you are talking about?). Rui Costa was a bench player when Kaka arrived, and Seedorf became more and more a midfielder than an attacking. He gave support to Kaka and Sheva up top. You don't have any idea what you are talking about. I also haven't said they lacked creativity individually, but as a team they were more of a counter-attacking team which were deadly in front of goal. To suggest they played a creative style of football not only shows complete ignorance but also a lack of knowledge. Pirlo's a natural #10. He went back on loan to Brescia but the manager converted him to a deeplying playmaker. Seedorf adapted his game slightly but once again to take advantage of his athleticism, natural playmaker. This is the '03 CL winning side. 3 playmakers - 2 out and out strikers. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bf/Juventus_vs_Milan_2003-05-28.svg The team that won the league after Juve were stripped had Kaka AND Rui Costa in. That team got dumped on by Depor and got pegged back at Istanbul. They brought in Ambrosini for Rui Costa for some bite and continued with one up top. Such a team will not be counter-attacking all day. You're painting Ancelotti as a typcial Italian Catenaccio manager and its far from true. It doesn't even make sense.

His teams are exactly like you say, counter-attacking teams. Score the first goal and they'll sit back and wait to kill the game by counter-attacking. Good manager, but horrible philosophy (does get him the results though) in my opinion. Funny how his aging Chelsea side broke the PL goals record on the way to winning the double. Now SAF's retired Carlo's the very best manager on the planet. Total class act as a person, too. He's talking guff Ronaldo.

Enough with KK man. Let his legacy live and rest ffs.

Do you have hypothetical hindsight ? What a gift. Wait. You're having a go at me for giving a hypothetical response to a hypothetical statement? Piss off.

Agreed.

Wow, what a point, you could field 10 offensive players and still not play an offensive creative football. Look at Mourinho and Real. CRonaldo, Benzema, Di Maria, Marcelo, Özil all played there and absolutely battered teams, still, it wasn't a offensive and creative team in that sense they were just individually more superior than most of their opposition. Mardid are a far harder working team than that Milan. That Milan played one way and it's pretty attacking. Very bad at having to grind out results or defend leads. Hence, Istanbul and Depor overturning a 4-1 deficit. Much like Chelsea, when they beat teams - they bloody beat em 3 or 4. No team with 1 #9 and 4 natural #10's in the same side is going to lack creativity like you have claimed mate. So just shut up and take this L.

They would've also dumped him a good few years earlier than we did.