Northern Monkey

So its unfair that Emre got sent off for a CLEAR red card offence?

As soon as he cracks.

Graham Taylor. More mongs emailing into Sky. We are going to win everything apparently Some on here thought 4th (and above Arsenal) under Fat Sam. Fuck knows what they think know, they'll still be cracking one off over 1980's copies of 'Shoot!'.

No, its called being a fan. You get to discuss things, have opinions, argue your case. Better than "woo hoo, we're the best ever, top 4 soon, toon army!!!".....cos thats not real, is it. whats your thoughts on where we will finish? Probably about 9th/10th, so better than i thought we'd do under Fat Sam,but not some knd if Messianic rebirth.

When I saw him on SSN in his tracksuit I wondered if he was bothered at all. Looked tired. However, he must have done some pretty good convincing to Ashley and Mort to be given the job iyam. Or it might have been Ashley and Mort who did the convincing. The main motivation behind this may be marketing tickets and shirts rather than growing a football club. But the idea may be for Keegan to be the figurehead/messiah and those under him to be the real force. My own opinion is that Keegan is a highly strung individual who can't handle intense pressure and in terms of football management he is mentally shot. With strong people under him we can wing it and it will be interesting to see who turn up as his assistants. Deep down, we know this is an emotional/populist decision rather than a long term, thought-out one. But it's done now, and at least its not fucking Redknapp.

Idiot, did you actually listen to him? Oh, and Emre DID have to go. Some people give NUFc fans a bad name. No he didn't have to go Yes, he did. Stop with the NUFC thing, and judge it dispassionately. No, he shouldn't have got sent off, get over it ffs Yeah he should, but NO, you're right, he's an NUFC player, it can't have been deliberate!!! ffs.

You were clearly there. Have you seen the sending off since?

Idiot, did you actually listen to him? Oh, and Emre DID have to go. Some people give NUFc fans a bad name. Doesn't help when some call people idiots either mind. You're right, and i apologise, but when there's THAT much blinkered shite in someones statements, is hard to be rational.

Idiot, did you actually listen to him? Oh, and Emre DID have to go. Some people give NUFc fans a bad name. No he didn't have to go Yes, he did. Stop with the NUFC thing, and judge it dispassionately. We should be pointing the finger at Rennie. If he had punished the Stoke kid, Emre wouldnt have felt like he had to do it himself. Not a great reaction by Emre hbut we all know what its like when we feel justice hasnt been served If the shoe was on the other foot, we'd be livid if Emre wasn't sent off. Its not his job to take the law into his own hands, he was wrong, stupid, and should have been dismissed. Yes, Rennie is a wanker, but its not Emre's job to do what he did.

No, its called being a fan. You get to discuss things, have opinions, argue your case. Better than "woo hoo, we're the best ever, top 4 soon, toon army!!!".....cos thats not real, is it.

Idiot, did you actually listen to him? Oh, and Emre DID have to go. Some people give NUFc fans a bad name. Yeah, you're one of them. Tosser tbh. Why, cos i'm not a sycophantic, blinkered Soopafan? Thank fuck for that, otherwise i'd be like you.

Idiot, did you actually listen to him? Oh, and Emre DID have to go. Some people give NUFc fans a bad name. No he didn't have to go Yes, he did. Stop with the NUFC thing, and judge it dispassionately.

Honestly, hand on heart, where do we all think we'll be at the end of next season, under KK?

Its definately a gamble, but if weve got 60million to spend, Keegan only has to spend it half as well as hes done in the past, play a basic formation with the players looking to win (which hes always done), and we could easily shoot back up to challenging for a top 6 spot. The previous managers have made an utter mess of things by being cowardly in the transfer market, freezing or falling out with important players, playing players out of position, or using shit tactics that made the players look clueless. A simple job has now been compeltely exaggerated into an "impossible" job because of the incompetence of the last 3 managers - its really shouldnt have been as hard as it was, but these managers choose a path and stuck by it refusing to acknowledge their faults or changing things back to the basics, even though everyone else could see just how bad things were. No matter what Keegan's weaknesses are, hes not going to do any of those. He gets on with players, his teams play a formation that everyone knows, he sets his teams out to win, and he isnt afriad to bring in unproven but talented flair/attacking players if he can. Thats all we need right now to jump back up to being top 6, and its something that Keegan practically guarantees, more so than Houllier, Shearer, Deschamps, Ranieri, etc. Not sure about your last point, you're dismissing some good coaches there, ones who've achieved more than KK. But a lot of what you say is right. Problem is twofold for me: 1) is he up to it, football HAS changed, no matter what people say when they try to pretend we're still where we were, and he had to walk last time.....and 2) a lot of other teams in the EPL have good managers and investment, and we have a lot of deadweight (again), despite tonights result.

Idiot, did you actually listen to him? Oh, and Emre DID have to go. Some people give NUFc fans a bad name.

a left winger and a tin man defender in the middle of midfield?

The game is the same. The way its played/managed/financed/etc has changed in ten years, of course.

Hopefully shop window.

KK is old, not fucking stupid.

That's pretty much exactly how I feel. Was shocked and disappointed at first, but that feeling has faded somewhat. Still worried though. And no, I don't do tongues. Forme, its important that we don't get carried away and start predicting top 4 next week, etc. We're better than that, we're NUFC fans. Lets bring realism back, and support our club, but not blindly - going on lke everything is perfect etc doesn't make us better fans. PS - you will, they always do in the end......

I was unhappy with Souness, Roeder and Allardyce. I'm confused about KK. You know fuck all.

You make a very good point. But we all know, really, that Keegan was broken by football at one point.....e can ry and dress it up as him being honourable, etc, but the fact is that he HAD to walk away. And that scares me. We CAN'T just pretend that everythig is ok if its not - we can't applaud players who re shite, we can't say we played well if we haven't.....it would make us stupid, liars, and blind, and thats not what being a Geordie is for me. Thats why I couldn't pretend Fat Sam was right, or Roeder, etc, and why i didn't want to give them no more time. I'm NOT saying KK is an Allardyce/Roeder/Souness, obviously, but i hate it when we, as Geordies (those who ARE), convince ourselves that whoever we sign (player or manager) is the answer. We let ourselves down.

If i'm honest, I'm somewhere between satisfied and gutted. With a touch of overjoyed.... I'm excited, but I have a genuine feeling of dread. I wanted to so much out of Fat Mikey's first appointment, and instead we got a backward step/emotional appointment. Letsnot pretend the REAL big clubs have been knocking his door down, and lets not pretend he is a brilliant manager overall. I fully expect to be swept up on the wave of passion, and in my heart i can't wait to sing his name, but I also expect that we will be sitting here pretending that we're a big club in 3 years time when we are still mid table, and pretending that this time next year, we'll be millionaires - i mean challenging for the top 4. Ooh, it's so confusing.

Stairway to Heaven? FPMSL.

Stop it, you're doing it on purpose, and they'll bite.