Northern Monkey

Wow you've found another loser that bases it on stadium size and the amount of times you filled the stadium . One guy on their actually describes Newcastle as a "giant" club with only one person on their questioning him mackems.gif. hahahahaahahaha!!! Its a good job most Toon fans have a good sense of humour.

I wasn't speaking of anyone on here, so I don't know why you've jumped the gun to think of that. I'm referring to the many media outlets and tottenham fans themselves who refer to their club as a "big club" even though they haven't played in the CL. So we agree, neither us nor Spurs are a "big club". Good.

How can Newcastle be classed as a big club when they havent won a single thing in 38 years (apart from the intertoto cup)? Good job I didn't say newcastle were a big club then isn't it? And you didn't answer the question... i didn't say they were a big club. They are about the same 'size' as us, in that they are outside of the big 4 clubs, but bigger than the Boros and Fulhams if the world. And you may not have said WE were a big club, but plenty of fans looking through black & white tinted glasses think we are. Erroneously, clearly.

Ladies and gentlemen, THIS is what happens when schools get the internet in. jesus wept. tbh.

how can we be when we have never won anything, or got particularlt far in the CL on a consistent basis?

Somebody has already said, and quoted that. And? Its a reiteration, as discussed. Someone wants to do it, so what.

Good luck with that. We are an avergae sized club with little current prospect of advancement. If i was him, i'd sign for Chelsea. and never get a game? So basically if you were a footballer you would probably be everything you hate about other footballers (money grabbing shite) ? If i was offered more money by a competitor to my current employer, to have to work less, but still have the chance to win awards, and get soem kudos, yes i would. I have no problem with footballers taking the money, none at all. Its when we as fans pretend that they are heroes for doing so, and that they have some kind of solidarilty with us, that i get pissed off. Who is to say that he couldn't play a part in some way for Chelsea? He's never going to replace Lampard or Essien, but Ballack may not always be there. Either way, why would he come to a bottom half of the Prem club, as opposed to potential league and CL winners? Im sure you have laid into Dyer plenty of times for earning £80k a week and not doing anything but fair enough. Sidwell dropped down a division to get games, really can't see why he would go to Chelsea when there are at the moment about 4 players ahead of him. I would rather play 40 games for a team that might not win anything than a handful for a team that wins stuff that you havent ever really contributed to. I had a pop at Dyer for being a cunt, being very average but getting superstar wages, and having fuck all end product. As a fan of NUFC, i don't LIKE the idea of having average players like Dyer and Sidwell on great money but contributing little. If our competitors want to do that, fair enough, thats their call, cos THATS not my money.

Get. To. Fuck.

what imbacile puts a get out clause in a players contract for half what he paid for him? Someone who knows that without it, the player will never coem to a club of this size, and who has to gamble on the player working out in order to continue his 'voice of the people/wanting to bring success' mythical personality.

So we need to lose most of the first team.

Who are you arguing with? Gartside? You dont have to point it out to us, we already know. Well most of us. Not arguing, just reiterating the stupidity of the "big club" wrongness. in the 50s, we coudl have argued that we were successful. Now, we have a relatively big fanbase (big, one team city), are stupid with money, and have particularly blinkered fans.

Good luck with that. We are an avergae sized club with little current prospect of advancement. If i was him, i'd sign for Chelsea. and never get a game? So basically if you were a footballer you would probably be everything you hate about other footballers (money grabbing shite) ? If i was offered more money by a competitor to my current employer, to have to work less, but still have the chance to win awards, and get soem kudos, yes i would. I have no problem with footballers taking the money, none at all. Its when we as fans pretend that they are heroes for doing so, and that they have some kind of solidarilty with us, that i get pissed off. Who is to say that he couldn't play a part in some way for Chelsea? He's never going to replace Lampard or Essien, but Ballack may not always be there. Either way, why would he come to a bottom half of the Prem club, as opposed to potential league and CL winners?

Aye, he hardly seems tearful does he!

You're a Newcastle fan. Owen's not. He is also an employee of the club and probably has a much better idea of how fucked it is compared to proper big clubs (Liverpool, Real Madrid). To expect a player that's played at clubs like that to be wowed by our "huge resources" is a touch naive. And quite how being "starved of success" is supposed to entice him to stay, I haven't a clue. Take the blinkers off man - this is a lad who knows what successful football clubs are all about and he knows that we haven't got what it takes. Like I said, I'm not going to cry into my cereal that he's fucking off. By your regards Gemmill, why would anyone want to come here? £. Oh well then. Heres me thinking we were going to build a team on ability and work ethic. Now I'm looking foward to a team full of mercenaries, who have no desire to win anything, and will leave after two years, yipeeeeeeee. If they had any desire to win anything, they wouldn't have made the mistake of showing up here in the first place tbh. Exactamundo, as The Fonz might say.

Harper Solano Hunty Ramage Edgar Milner Butt Parker The Zog Owen Martins

What the fuck?? What exactly are you expectingh a shite player like Ameobi to do???

Easy words. If him and his fucking wanker colleagues had pulled their fingers out all season, we wouldn't be the fucking embarassment that we are.

Well, it doesn't actually exist, because if you are shite, you are shite. And we ARE worse than those 3, by some margin in 2 cases. Newcastle fans can continue with the "we're a big club" lie if they want, but lets not pretend that we shoudl be competing in a higher tier of the league than Everton and Spurs are in, because thats our goal realisticaly for the forseeable future, not top 4.

I wouldn't necessarily class trying to get out of the club 'a mistake' at the moment, but that is by the by. The point is Shepherd has brought the arguement into the public domain and I just cannot see any benifit in that (certainly not for the club) other than as something Shepherd can point to when he is forced to accept some insulting offer furthur down the line. Shepherd deserves all the flack directed at him over this in my opinion. Teh argument already was int he public domain, you can't blame the Fat Man for that. He CAN be blamed for handling it wrong, but not for what the players people have already done.

When did Dyer turn into a left winger? Or Carr into a left back? Football is stupid.

Anybody who doesn't think we're a bigger club than them, is a total wank, simple as that really. You're doing it again, Stevie. That whole "we're a big club nonesense". PLEase god don't base it on stadium size again.

Good luck with that. We are an avergae sized club with little current prospect of advancement. If i was him, i'd sign for Chelsea.

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