Northern Monkey

Lets not pretend that - if indeed it is coming from near the player - that he is innocent in this either. Yes, FFS made a mistake, but he isn't the only one.

Good luck to them with that one. Nowhere near worth the hassle. And not worth the value being touted around about him, to be fair.

Problem is, it looks like someone near Owen is using the press to lever him away. Unfortunately, Fat Man is not sharp enough to make a proper statement making them look stupid and leaving it at that, and he gets sucked in too easily. His sentiment, however, is correct.

Alan Oliver is perfectly suited to being on Talk Sport - a shitty, lowest common denominator "journalist" on a shitty, lowest common denominator station.

No, the "perfect" thing was someones actual statement. Is people want him, they must believe he will be a success, no?

so he was making the previous stuff up? Either way, he's full of s**** at some point. Get to f***, Roeder,you cretin. He's crap a manager but I don't doubt his sincerity towards the club. Give him a break. You got what you want, he's no longer manager, so is it too hard for you to just be bit more gracious? Still, it's the club's loss - thought he was doing a fine job at the Academy. Shepherd should have appointed a proper manager right from the start, rather than taking the risk with Roeder. I agree Yoshi, I was never a fan of the appointment in the first place but I think there could still be a place for him in the academy. I reckon Roeder is probably a decent enough coach but a useless manager. A decent coach? How and when exactly has he proven that? As for being gracious, thats a bit stupid, is it not? The man was a cretin of the highest order, him having left does not change that. I woudn't have him back in any capacity.

You don't think there's a big 4? I do, and i think we are an incredible distance behind them. There are at least 4 tiers in the premiership, and whilst we should be looking to dominate the 2nd one, we are an average club in the 3rd. As for the "hello Everton, Aston Villa and Spurs" thing, they are the clubs we should be alongside, but are not. Anyone who thinks we are a bigger club than Everton or Spurs is a fucking idiot.

Why would he want to leave us?? We're a massive club, he owes us, and he feels incredibly loyal towards us. Is what the people with a clouded judgement of the situaiton might say.

Possibly. TBH You would have probably finished 7th place max with him. Is that still good enough for a player like Owen?? 7th?? We'd be lucky to be 9th, i reckon.

Who said that? Its inferred. People saying he's perfect, will get the best out of players, do this, do that. All i'm saying is that i don;'t see anything to get excited about with Allardyce (and for fucks sake can we stop the "Big Sam" thing, its embarassing and more than a bit gay), just a solid, dull, physical, very much mid table team.

I genuinely don't want Allardyce. I'm not getting all of the stuff about him being this phenomenal manager, and a guaranteed success, just can't see that. I'll no doubt be proven wrong - unlike i was with Souness and Roeder - and that'll be a good thing . But Allardyce doesn't fill me with any confidence at all about the future.

Speaking of compensation packages. If some other club decides to appoint Roeder as their new manager, will we get compensated? we'll need to pay THEM.

But the money is too tempting. £50,000 per week, 5 year deal plus a heft signing on fee (say £2m) since he's on a free = £15m = life of luxury considering he was a Championship player last season. And you think he'd go to an average-sized club above a team offering him the potential for cups, Champions League, league titles??

Christ, thats beyond rose-tinted.

Thats the point, though. He's made that decision based on the fact that Allardyce is available and he's heard of him. He's clearly not considering too many other people, which is wrong. Personally, i'd rather we spent some time and got the right man, than jump in and get the easist - but not best - option. To be fair NM, you should be pleased we're going for a manager with any calibre. Remember last time we tried your method... we spent months trying to figure out who to appoint and then plunged for Roeder as he'd done well. To you really want to risk Pearson being put in full time. So we should plump for someone who may not be the best choice, just because we made a mistake last time? Anyway, i don't believe we DID scour Europe last time, i think Fat Man always knew what he was going to do, and as soon as someone lile Wenger didn't kick the door down, he took the soft option, just like he is now.

Maybe a lot do, but it would be remiss of us not to look properly, i think.

Who'd you want then? Be realistic I want us to look properly, and decide who the best person is, not just jump in cos a - in my opinion - very average manager is free.

Not really.

Shame.

If we were going to sell him I'd sell him next summer as he'll only have a year left on his contract and I doubt he'll want to renew it. I can't see him leaving full stop especially not on the contract he is on. I mean Thierry Henry only recently singed a new contract of 100K per week at Arsenal and Owen earns 110K per week. Only Chelski or Man U could offer those terms and FFS has already clearly stated there is no clause. and you believe him?? ahahahahahahahaaha

Whats all this shite about him owing us? Does anyone REALLY think thats how he feels? No-one here knows if he has some clause in his contract, but everyone surely knows that his priority is England.

A replacement for Dyer? Why would we sign a first team player to replace one who should only be on the bench at best?

Good, i hope we get someone better.

Good squad, fuck off.

he's not a superstar, he's a fairly good player.