Rich

For what it's worth, even though it's somewhat of an aside to the debate, one of the main reasons I felt we didn't make more of a title challenge after Bellamy's injury in 2001/02 was because Robson opted for Cort ahead of Lua Lua, who seemed a far more like-for-like replacement for Bellers. I'd be willing to bet Wor Al had some involvement in that decision though as he probably didn't fancy playing with the unpredictable Lomana much.

Agreed, again. I think the blue makes it look a bit more tacky. You have fantastic taste.

Bit soon to be saying that after he's played 3 full games this season... Am I not right in saying we won 2 of them? Just watching him you can tell he's leaps better than what we have and would walk in tomorrow if fit. He can pass forward tidies up and can put a tackle in. I don't disagree that he's our best central midfielder, but he's still hardly been value for money, has he? To say, right here and now, that selling him would have been a "catastrophic mistake" is an overexaggeration of catastrophic proportions! He's no use to us when he's injured.

That's exactly the sort of thing we're after. Something we could use and then build the new forum theme around, to make everything all match up. I actually like the plain black/white one better, like! Looks very sharp.

Bit soon to be saying that after he's played 3 full games this season...

If it happens between December 20th and January 18th I can play as well. Been playing across the midfield for the team I play for in Hull recently.

There's surely only one man for that job...

For what it's worth, I'm sure we'd be up for having a new "tagline" if someone can up with a good one.

21st December (Sunday)

I like it. I like it a lot. Fonts are a bit cack, though, particularly the second line.

We could desperately do with a quality signing for the centre of the park, regardless of whether Butt stays or not. I do think Barton is good enough when he's actually available and in the right frame of mind and Guthrie and Butt are fine to play when necessary. We're still crying out for some power/athleticism in there, though, and have been since the mighty Amady Faye left us for pastures new.

Maybe its because they are the 2 shittest teams away from home in the league? Beat me to it. Although I can appreciate that Yorkie might be right, I do get the feeling it was more who we were playing than who was playing for us. Were we even that good against Stoke in the first half? They were truly, truly awful and as far as I remember we stopped playing after 24 minutes.

You lovely man! I'm getting the Duff one and the basic N-O one for Xmas.

Very clever idea! I dunno how you do it sometimes mate.

I use my iPod Touch for browsing when I'm away/on trains and stuff, and have wondered about the images myself. Will be very nifty having our proper logo saved instead of the screenshot.

What do you mean for this mate? Just the little square images you'd use to directly link into the forum through the Touch/iPhone? favicon-esque image 57*57 pixels called apple-touch-icon.png in the root directory. then when u bookmark this to your home screen on an ipod touch or iphone it'll show that logo. its so much better than what you get atm, which is just a logo that the iphone creates - just a tiny screenshot of the webpage. Dave's PM'ed me the link you gave back in October. We'll definitely be doing this when the forum is re-designed mate/when we get the new logo.

We'll be able to add outlines at a later date if necessary, like we did with the original crest.

What do you mean for this mate? Just the little square images you'd use to directly link into the forum through the Touch/iPhone?

Zippy for me. 0.08 seconds page creation and a basically instant entry into this thread. Will check it out.

I'd still gladly swap it for everything we've seen since. UEFA Cup football didn't help us that year at all, especially in regards to the Wolves game. If anything it was the UEFA Cup that kept our season going imo. All the fixture changes, the jetlag from playing Thursday-Sunday all the time, something was just lost completely since the Partizan game, the magic had gone. That's the pinpoint of when it started going wrong for me.

I've seen him stroking balls off the park.

I'd still gladly swap it for everything we've seen since. UEFA Cup football didn't help us that year at all, especially in regards to the Wolves game.

If KK abused an official I would slate him for it too. I hate it when one of our players or manager loses their rag at a decision or with an official, its pointless, will only ever cost you and doesn't exactly set the right standards. When we've had the class and wit of Sir Bobby and KK managing us it breaks my heart to see complete and utter brawlers managing my club. Not saying he was right to do it btw. But I can understand why he snapped and had a pop at the linesman. I bet thousands of people in the ground had a bit of a reaction to that decision at the time. Difference is he's being monitored by the 4th official and didn't get away with it. No way am I going to criticise him when I would have reacted in exactly the same manner. It was his fault it got to that stage though, which is why I'm angry at him, regardless of the decision. He's a joke.

I take exception at Bernard being called dross like, but a good post nontheless. I also liked Lua Lua.

Only sang when we scored? I think you will find we sang throughout, we sang when you scored too. You've got a big ground but your fans, players and manager don't live up to that, I was disappointed by you lot. You weren't the only one. Well after the 24 minute mark, at least.