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Newcastle 2 - 1 Spurs - 18/08/12 - post-match jubilation from page 35
Theregulars replied to Beren's topic in Football
NUFC injury curse alive and well then -
You sound like them Two things: He had service (which he wont get) and we fell apart that game, even Alan Smith upfront would have put one past us. Also I think Shola off the bench is a better option than him, at half the price. He still played well in that game, which was my point. He's far from useless. Saha's a better player than Shola, but considering the price comparison there's not much in it for value. My point wasn't necessarily that he's better/worse than Shola, more that we are one squad striker light for this season and there's worse players for that role - not that I'd go and buy him, but if he was presented to me as 3rd/4th choice for our squad I wouldn't weep. I don't think I sound like them, I despise them just as much as the next person on here, but just as they are prone to silly hyperbole when rubbishing our signings, we can be too. As a football fan, Saha isn't a poor player. He has a poor injury record and will likely be overpriced in terms of wages, but he's not the joke signing that a lot of people on here want him to be just to have another stick to bash the Mackems with. We've already got a lot anyway. I'm not saying they've got one over us, nor does the signing make them any better than mid-table wasters, but call a spade a spade - he's not a bad striker.
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Glad you're not the manager
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Surely they Should be aiming a bit higher than Saha though?! Yup, maybe they should, or indeed maybe they have, but given that nobody wants to play there/they don't have the draw of European football, the likelihood of swift progress or any great players beyond Sessegnon, I reiterate that it's not a horrible signing - unless it's like 3-5 years, £50,000 per week. Then it's a total albatross. If it's 1-2 years with a non-enormous pay packet, as a transition signing to keep you ticking over for a year or two it's not awful.
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Same thing happened to me - went away to University and when I returned all had been donated to Charity, including all NUFC kits 1993-2003. My dad genuinely tried to argue that he thought I'd outgrown them/shouldn't have football shirts if I wanted to grow up. He's been systematically buying them back for me from classicfootballshirts.co.uk until each one is replaced because I went so apeshit.
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It's not as terrible a signing as you lot are making out. It's by no means a great one, but he'll stick a few goals away for them. Obviously will be nowhere near as prolific as the great unwashed are making out, and his wages are probably ludicrous, but it's not a horrible signing. If we signed him to be a back-up striker I'd be pretty fine with that - he tore us a new one when we got hammered by Spurs last year.
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This deserves far more recognition than it got.
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TBF sounds like it's West Brom. I didn't know that - was just adding 2 + 2 and getting 5, seemed interesting.
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You are right, but it's entirely possible the stance may have changed in light of failure to land De Jong, Liverpool's over-valuation of Carroll and the looming reality of 3 strikers with a 50+ game season, one of whom is Shola who usually has injury issues, and 2 of whom may be gone for some time at the ACON.
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Ah, the same club which has never taken a loss on a player in the Abramovich era.
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There's one main reason it will never happen, we will never loan a player to nurture him for another club especially a rival one. Just like we didn't offer to take Carroll on loan from Liverpool? That was different, because there was going to be a future fee we would pay at the end of the loan to take him permanently. And surely it's therefore not beyond the realm of possibility that such a situation would be replicated with Lukaku? There's one main reason it will never happen, we will never loan a player to nurture him for another club especially a rival one. Just like we didn't offer to take Carroll on loan from Liverpool? That was different, because there was going to be a future fee we would pay at the end of the loan to take him permanently. Different regime but just like... Giuseppe Rossi. Aye, but it would never happen now. It's just not an Ashley MO. I don't think you could ever say something 'is just not Ashley' unless it's spending an absolute wedge on a 30-year-old or something. Anything which is cheap, anything which represents a potential bargain, and any potential situation we can exploit - be it a release clause, be it an unhappy player etc - totally reeks of Ashley. However, to repeat, I'm totally speculating. As timeEd32 suggests, it could be West Brom. It could be any team. I don't know, it just struck me as opportunistic and thus something appealing to those who run the club.
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There's one main reason it will never happen, we will never loan a player to nurture him for another club especially a rival one. Just like we didn't offer to take Carroll on loan from Liverpool?
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That's actually a really decent point I hadn't considered, it would make a lot of sense (especially top players who may want to see us assured of European football).
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I imagined it would be QPR or Fulham at first, but it says definitely not Fulham, not sure QPR can logically pay for anybody else. Perhaps a newly promoted club not too far away like Reading or Southampton? As I said, pure speculation, but he would certainly 'fit the bill' of our policy being young, cheap (on loan, although I suppose Chelsea would have to pick up a lot of his wages) and potential to improve (I would imagine any deal would include a clause to buy permanently if he impressed). I don't necessarily agree they wouldn't loan him to a side who finished above them, I think they want rid of him. Remember him saying he wanted out as well - although the reason was lack of first team football, which he wouldn't get in abundance here.
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Did anyone else read in the Times 'Decent bets' thing that Lukaku was being loaned to another PL club? Loan = cheaper + he's young = may be us. Pure speculation on my part.
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Pipe down with your positive, analytical thinking. There's needless panic to be had.
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Can't argue with such elementary mathematics.
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West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Theregulars replied to Pilko's topic in Football
Partner in my firm (we represent LFC) thinks we will get him for 10-12m, current position is just posturing by yanks. Deal will be 'undisclosed' as a result. Not sure how much use this is but he leads a team who do a lot of work for the club at corporate level. -
Cisse's in one of them so it can't be that bad.
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West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Theregulars replied to Pilko's topic in Football
When have I said KFC is good? It's f***ing Godlike. Like or dislike the man but don't cast aspersions on KFC. -
West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Theregulars replied to Pilko's topic in Football
Ba, Cisse, Carroll, Shola - that's a pretty handy squad striking quartet in my book. -
West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll
Theregulars replied to Pilko's topic in Football
I'd do it if he's Best's replacement because he's a better player, but not to start. -
I'd pay the crap out of that for him.
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His physical pace is totally undermined by his mental slowness. That's basically it for me.