OzzieMandias

A citizen of the United Kingdom can be British, or (Northern) Irish, or whatever you call people from the Channel Islands or the Isle of Man. There's no one term for everyone.

Trinidad & Tobago is classed as one country isn't it? Er... and?

"The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland" You DO understand the word "and", right?

Pointing out that four British managers have failed to tough it out is an odd way of arguing that a "foreigner" couldn't -- although of course Gullit didn't.

Relegation would be a disaster. End of.

obviously earlier than those 3 who haven't replied yet I beg your pardon. I didn't realise that you had failed to understand this the first 432 times I explained it. Here we go again: If you expect a sensible reply to any of your tediously regular rantings in my direction, try directing your remarks to something I have actually said, rather than inventing some bogus position for me, and then demanding that I defend it. This is an elementary principle of discussion. That you haven't yet grasped it after years of flailing about online speaks, frankly, volumes. Read this, and then try again: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

Drifting back on topic, while I take Dave's point, and it's an interesting one, we still only have (as far as I can see) nine English managers in the English Premier League. A minority.

No, he wasn't technically British. He was technically a citizen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Sorry, you're quite right. But now he's Irish (always was in his head). Drifting ever further off topic, but can anyone from N. Ireland get an Irish passport, or is it a matter of ancestry/religion?

No, he wasn't technically British. He was technically a citizen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. But Rep of ireland northern ireland and Great Britain are all in the British Isles. Yep. But that's geography, not politics/citizenship. Like being in Europe isn't the same as being in the European Union.

No, he wasn't technically British. He was technically a citizen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

Why are you marshalling your straw men for this off-topic tripe?

This idea that "doing something" is automatically better than "not doing something" is totally moronic.

There needs to an emoticon for shaking your head sadly.

Sorry, I've run out of troll food.

Apart from tarnish our attractiveness to prospective buyers, that is.

Brilliant attitude to have. I envy our next owner. Aye, that attitude will be no end of help in selling the club.

Shortage of multi-billionaires eager to play Fairy Godmother and splash obscene amounts of money, fractious and quite possibly ungrateful fanbase, global financial meltdown etc etc. Got to face it, we have made ourselves very unattractive with our latest protests etc. In fact, the worst part is that we have made ourselves investable only by exactly the kind of people that we don't want - someone who's only in it for the money. Bollocks has a week of protests which has since dwindled out changed anything. Any potential owner who doesn't realise they're going to get a bit of stick when they don't spend any money on the team after collecting unprecedented amounts of TV money, asking for 3 years up front season ticket revenue, and then having a respected manager walk out saying he's not happy with things should be nowhere near a football club in the first place. What about the 7 interested parties? They all knew about the protests before they expressed an interest. If it's such a great deal now Mike's fixed everything wrong with the club, they'll be fighting over themselves to get their hands on it. So what are you accusing him of today? Wanting to sell the club or not wanting to sell the club?

Shortage of multi-billionaires eager to play Fairy Godmother and splash obscene amounts of money, fractious and quite possibly ungrateful fanbase, global financial meltdown etc etc.

Who gets to shag Christine Keeler?

Just trying to set confused posters right on a simple, easily verifiable point of fact.

No matter how you slice it, O'Neill is simply not British. Northern Ireland is not Britain, as a mere glance at any UK passport will reveal: "The United Kingdom of Great Britain AND Northern Ireland."

O'Neill isn't, he's British Kinnear and Keane are Irish O'Neill isn't British. He is, however, a citizen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

Or we could bring back the glorious era of Ian Rush in black and white. didn't he replace your idol Tina baby ? I'd hardly call what Rush did "replacing". Mind you, he scored more than Alan Smith.

I don't think it would be the worst idea in the world if Ashley was stuck with the club, if Shepherd replaced Llambias as Chairman and made the footballing decisions (ie, getting rid of the "regime" and bringing in a manager). I'd keep Fred away from footballing decisions, frankly, given his failure rate in managerial appointments.

Anyone who wants Shepherd back because they think the problem is the owner hasn't been putting enough of his own money into the club ought to be seeking psychiatric help. What would "having Shepherd back" mean, anyway. If he did manage to raise the money to buy the club, it would have to be some kind of leveraged buyout as he's about £200 million short of the minimum asking price. He wouldn't exactly be loaded down with transfer money to chuck around, and the club would be in enormous debt even before he'd put the "Shepherd Offshore" sign back up on his private box. I'd say that scenario was a flat impossibility in the current economic climate, anyway. And if he was still here, we'd have Fat Sam still as manager, and no money to buy players. Or else he'd have sacked Sam and appointed, well... after Souness, Roeder and Allardyce, God knows who.