Mick

So they should, I think most will be happy to see progress over a period of time.

Sounds scary until you realise there's never been much of a correlation between the number of points we have after 6 games and where we finish in the league: 95/96 - 15 points - 2nd 96/97 - 12 points - 2nd 97/98 - 12 points - 13th 98/99 - 8 points - 13th 99/00 - 1 point - 11th - Change of manager 00/01 - 10 points - 11th 01/02 - 11 points - 4th 02/03 - 7 points - 3rd - Sir Bobby 03/04 - 3 points - 5th - Sir Bobby 04/05 - 8 points - 14th 05/06 - 5 points - 7th - Change of manager 06/07 - 7 points - 13th 07/08 - 11 points - 12th 08/09 - 4 points - 18th - Relegated 10/11 - 7 points - 12th - Change of manager 11/12 - 12 points - 5th 12/13 - 9 points - 16th Am I right in thinking that your point is that when we have so few points at this stage we either need to change a manager, have Sir Bobby or get relegated?

If Pardew has anything about him he'll start with the 11 who started against Everton with Tiote dropping out for Cabaye. Put the other players where they should have been and tell our defenders to defend rather than having 2 central defenders so exposed while the other 2 go missing from the defence.

Our last 48 league games: Win percentage - 29.17% Draw percentage - 18.75% Loss percentage - 52.08% Points per game - 1.06 Goals for per game - 1.15 Goals against per game - 1.83

You've got to watch us more than 3 times to see a win.

Cutting.

I don't feel for him in the slightest, he's detestable.

Pardew has been a manager longer than 3 years and he's had quite a few relegation fights, it's what he does.

I'm already looking forward to the January transfer window if we're planning so far ahead.

No, I've sensed he's started to change his mind, I could be wrong though. I was wrong.

No, I've sensed he's started to change his mind, I could be wrong though.

Tired or in realisation that Pardew is taking us in the wrong direction?

He'll not turn it around, nothing in his career suggests that he can turn anything around. He's a shit manager and you thinking he's going to do something he's never done before isn't going to change anything.

You're like a turkey voting for Christmas, absolutely nuts.

I'll stick up for you and Ian, I don't think you're WUM's, I think you both genuinely think you're right about Pardew. Sorry, I've called you thick, haven't I?

I'm not sure Pardew believes you get points for beating them in the league, at least that would explain why we don't bother trying.

I can't see Ben Arfa getting dropped for Jonas if that's what people are worried about. I think Jonas (has he ever been dropped by Pardew?) will more than likely see us go 4-4-2 with Jonas wide left and Ben Arfa wide right.

You're making yourself look daft but carry on.

Does anybody expect Pardew to resign because of something posted on here? Have a word with yourself.

Hardly unexpected.

I would be very surprised if many of our fans believed that Pardew offered to resign, he hasn't got the integrity to do that.

Pardew is here for over 6 years if he gets through his contract, Kinnear wouldn't last a year.

I can't see anything lucky in winning 4-1. Also the fans at Chelsea and WBA wanted to keep him and that doesn't point to him being too bad. I know fans can be wrong but I don't think he's shown that he's poor at either club.

That's rubbish, they were virtually out of the CL before he took over, I'm sure they were 3-1 down from the first leg.

I don't know that they are better but at least I would be able to have a bit of hope, I know Pardew is a poor manager. I don't know that the other two are as bad as he is and it would be worth the gamble. My first choice would be to get enough points to get through to the summer and sack him then and replace him with somebody better but that's not going to happen. Sacking him is more likely to be reactionary rather than something planned for the good of the club.