Mick

Good post.

I read your first 6 words and that was enough.

I would agree with that, I think he's got the wrong people working for him and I think his mistake is not doing enough to correct what happened in his absence. I'm more than happy to say guilty as charged on that one.

Instincts are good but I don't trust mine at the minute. Keegan has done a lot for us in the past both as player and manager. On the other side of that we have an owner who claims to have bought the club so that he can go to the games with his kids and does so and acts like any other father taking his kids so appearances tie in with his claims. He's also been partially involved with bringing Keegan back, if only by rubber stamping the deal. Why would he try to undermine the manager he brought to the club? My instinct tells me that he would have no reason for doing so.

You've got to admit that virtually everything we're hearing is rumour. If that rumour you've mentioned is true then Wise should be the one out of work, not Keegan. I don't like Wise and never have done but it's just too easy to make something up about him and people will take it in. I'd love to know where to point the finger but I don't as yet and I'll try to stay neutral until I know one way or the other but I understand people taking sides, even if I don't agree with them.

I doubt that anybody would have picked the team.

Keegan should have stuck with it as we would have been better with him than without him. Sometimes in life you have to play with the shit hand you've been dealt.

It also goes the other way, he wasn't promised anything.

I must have missed it but at least I now know where to find it.

I'm sure Keegan was questioned, maybe at his first press conference, the one when he mentioned the cockneys going to the theatre, that he wouldn't leave claiming that something wasn't in the brochure because he hadn't been given a brochure. From that I thought he'd come in not knowing too much about what was planned, I might look for it later.

But we don't know that he has uncovered a lie, we don't even know who really is to blame for this mess. It could be one side or it could be a bit of both and speaking personally, I'd love to know who was to blame so that I can call either side or both sides twats and then move on.

I realised that after it was pointed out, sorry.

OK, it doesn't help our current situation.

Keegan didn't have to live a lie, he could have fought from within rather than leave.

I think Keegan could have stayed and fought for his beliefs and would have had the full backing of the crowd, we could have all won that way.

I'm open to suggestions as to why they would force his hand into resigning, I'm open minded on this and can't put all of the blame on one side.

I would agree with that if this was just a job but it isn't, he's supposed to love the club and the fans, dropping us in the shit is a funny way of showing it.

One simple question, why?

OK, thanks for that.

The thread title is "He's gone down in my estimation." He's also gone down in mine, just like virtually everyone at the club who has played a part in where we now find ourselves.

He could have put the 50,000 who regularly turn up every other Saturday before himself, he hasn't done that.

I quite like the idea of you foreigners supporting our mongrel of a club.

I think the world of Keegan, he's still dropped us in the shit, no matter how you dress it up.