Ashley17

I think a lot of people's opinions of Zog are being swayed a little by his horrible attitude. I'd class him as being in our "best 11" but that doesn't say much, I don't think the top 4 would be interested in him simply because they can do better. But he is young and should improve but the best thing he can do is get his head down and play consistently. Whether he thinks he has to go elsewhere to do that is up to him but as he seems he wants to leave so badly I think we should get rid.

They are better players

I have a theory about the Given and N'Zogbia transfer stories: Spurs want both players but Redknapp knows it's a bit of a sideways step, especially for Given. So he gets on to the agents and with a little cash in hand, the agent tells Shay/Zog that clubs are interested. Take the Shay one for example, he's told that City, Arsenal and Spurs are in for him. The plan is to get Shay to say he wants to leave, before it turns out that City and Arsenal aren't interested but Spurs are. Shay will already have backed himself into a corner and off he goes. However, Shay is too smart for that and hasn't fallen for it. N'Zogbia however has. Why would Arsenal "possibly" have an interest. He's done nothing for a long time and they're trying to spend £16m on Arshavin. Why would Villa be interested? Young is arguably the most inform left winger in the country and they spent £12m on Milner. Would he go as back up? Seems a bit silly. But Sprus are still interested. There's a shocker. N'Zogbia's opened his mouth now and says he wants to go (several times) and as seen from some reactions in this thread, it's been one complaint too many. Crackpot theory or maybe some backbone? Harry Redknapp is involved remember

Thinking about it: Carroll and Owen up front is as good as confirmed. N'Zogbia, Duff, Jonas, Geremi, Guthrie(Cacapa) are the midfield options - surely if Cacapa is as fucked as he's meant to be and Guthrie is ill, Zog will play in centre mid? I know Zog's had an injury but if one of Duff/Jonas/Zog is on the bench and fucking Cacapa is in centre midfield I think that'd be fucking stupid.

If we play Cacapa and Geremi in centre mid, it makes one of the most important areas of the team very very weak. Noble and Parker (if he's still willing to play for West Ham) will over run them easily. Then up front we have Andy Carroll against Matthew Upson. Hopefully Bellamy can't be arsed but we have fuck all in the way of options. Kinnear said he was. Cacapa actually got an assist away at West Ham! I thought that was Geremi...like I said earlier....TWINS BASIL

Wasn't Cacapa supposed to be out long term? Or was that just an excuse for him being turbo shit. Kazenga time?

From .com: NUFC: to follow...Nicky Butt sits this one out, after receiving an automatic one-game ban following his fifth booking of the season, incurred at Hull. Jonas Gutierrez is one booking away from a one-game ban. Charles N'Zogbia is expected to be OK after limping off at the KC Stadium with a dead leg, but there's an illness doubt over Danny Guthrie, with Cacapa on standby. Barton, Beye, Gonzalez, Martins, Smith & Viduka remain sidelined, while Ameobi, Cacapa and Xisco aren't expected to feature - whether named on the bench or not.... Cacapa and Geremi in centre midfield would be like watching disabled twins

Birmingham City's stalled offer for Kris Boyd could lead to a bidding war, with Fulham and Sunderland expressing an interest in the Rangers striker. - BBC Sport

That's disgusting management. Yes it'll be a boost for Carroll that he's been told he's getting 2 starts but what about the rest of the squad. Xisco could bust a nut in training and it'll all be for nothing, so why should he bother. I guess this means Shola is still crocked aswell.

From the same paper, 3 days earlier: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1104482/Manchester-City-poised-net-unhappy-Given-10million.html Did that happen? Did it shite. This is going to run and run and run I'm afraid

Look on the brightside, when those 3 years are up his brother will be ready to replace him.

I swear our doctor's just guess at how long players will be out for. Also, from the same article: "Sources close to the player have revealed that he has been booked in for a hernia operation later in the week if, as expected, he is not ready for a return. Club medical staff have been told that he could recover from that operation within two weeks. Barring any further setbacks it is better news for United boss Joe Kinnear, who will also be boosted by the return of Joey Barton and Alan Smith to training next week. The pair have been pencilled in to return to first-team duty before the end of the month" Being selfish, I say get him in for the op now so he's back for the mackems

On Day 1 of JFK's reign he was comparing Xisco and Shola and complained that Xisco didn't attack the box at all. First impression is often the only impression and all that..

His agent is called Jazzman

Some of the guys on that list don't own the club and are just shareholders. I can't be bothered to work it out exactly but he's probably in the top 10 or maybe even 5 if you only include the outright owners/majority shareholders

Are we already in the championship? ffs Did everton say that when they signed Cahill? Did they fuckers. Or Jagielka? or Lescott? lol Im not saying dont sign anyone from the championship, Im saying those players with Zog gone would be a championship squad. Bullard and Elano both have premiership experience but man city and Fulham dont want them, both of whom are teams we should be competing with this season (not standing man citys new year spending spree). So buying players not good enough for them doesnt make sense to me. Elano has been good for man city, then again mido was for spurs, yes they can afford to replace him with a top drawer player, but until now they havent had the opportunity, and hes done f*** all to make them want to keep him. Disagree with everything you have said. Our side minus Zog is a championship one already then by your words. I believe we need depth to our squad and we need it NOW. We have some of our better players on long term injuries and only kids who are not good enough yet (if ever) to step in. Firstly, Fulham don't want rid of Bullard, they said he can go if they can't meet his wage demands. Elano has fallen out of favour with Hughes over personal issues (from what I can see) and he was a dangerous player for them last season. Plus Man City don't have to settle for keeping Elano as they have so much money they can buy whoever is willing to come for silly wages. Bit different from the angle of "they aren't good enough for them" that your trying to create. Mido hasn't been suggested, so again your picking a bad example and trying to pin it on a different set of players with different circumstances. Also, are you saying you'd prefer to keep what we got instead of adding Elano and Bullard to the mix? - Sorry but I don't see how our current midfield is better than not having Bullard & Elano in it to pick from. And please, suggest 4 players you think we can sign like I requested. If your going to criticise my choices at least have the balls to lay your cards on the table. I already did a long way back in this thread and i stick by it. Bullard has gone on record as saying he will take a cut in wages to stay at Fulham. Elano is not wanted by man city, theyve struggled for goals this season with Jo being slow to settle and still he hasnt featured. My point is to improve the squad, swapping zog for bullard or elano is not imo improving the squad, nor is signing untested players for a potential relegation battle. Im saying id rather keep zog than bring in two lesser players. You think Zog is better than Bullard and Elano? Talk about over rated. On his day, Charlie could come close to Elano.

Rules mean nout, look at Defoe and his move back to Spurs. If I'm not mistaken Mascherano from West Ham to Liverpool shouldn't have been allowed as he would have played for 3 clubs and that was allowed. I wouldn't worry, basically.

Yes but if we're picking the team on assists Geremi is the main man

We beat Champions League contenders Spurs without Oba

What's the source Brazilianbob? Paper, forum, man in pub, man in the know?

Wouldn't be surprised one bit to see us get Lita in as cover if the 300k reports are true

Every morning Skirge wakes up during the transfer window it's like Christmas morning

Where's that from?

I hate you Dave.

"Matt Derbyshire's superb overhead kick" Yes Sam, it was going out of play for a throw in until it hit the Blyth guy in the face.