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Most Spanish are wankers, surprised that so many people supported them after England was knocked out. The Spanish Basketball team photo for the 2008 Beijing Olympics, sums the nation up.

This is a perfect example of why we get tagged in the media as 'deluded'.

Kluivert?

Well that's not true, having our best midfielder play on the left of midfield isn't exactly ideal.

This Octopus is something else

Savings have got to be made across the board. That's for another forum though. Back on topic - Hope Germany smash them tonight.

Frank Lampard

Was it not 8 or 9 months without a goal? The goal he eventually scored was a penalty ffs. I suppose he was written off too quickly. Deary me.

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Haha yess!

FFS, he didn't cheat because he got sent off. He was punished. If people are so disgusted then you should be complaining about the need for a rule change.

Are you kidding me? that comical defending for Gerrmany's 1st goal and inability to lead the backline generally throughout the game makes him one of the most culpable...that's not even counting whatever destabilizing effect his press conference may have had. The only players more culpable than him for England was probably Green, Barry, possibly Rooney and that's about it. Possibly Rooney? Add Heskey, Upson, Lennon, Gerrard and Lampard. Nonsense, I'm pretty sure Gerrard contributed to 2 of our 3 goals And failed to do anything else. He certainly didn't do his job against Algeria, which is where the real damage was done. Well i think we can let him off for that since he was the only one who was dangerous around the box.. being played out of position and all. Utter ridiculous that Capello used our best midfielder like that to be honest, so to come away with any goals or assists deserves credit in my book.

Are you kidding me? that comical defending for Gerrmany's 1st goal and inability to lead the backline generally throughout the game makes him one of the most culpable...that's not even counting whatever destabilizing effect his press conference may have had. The only players more culpable than him for England was probably Green, Barry, possibly Rooney and that's about it. Possibly Rooney? Add Heskey, Upson, Lennon, Gerrard and Lampard. Nonsense, I'm pretty sure Gerrard contributed to 2 of our 3 goals

Klinsmann is s*** when it comes to tactics. The "mastermind" was Löw. Klinsmann was only the "motivator". I think the difference between Beckham and Klinsmann is that the later got away from german football for a few years, coached in the US (where he learned about new training-methods) and then came back. International management is mostly about keeping the players motivated, though. You have such a short period of time to work with the players, motivation plays a much bigger part than tactics for "good" sides. Though it's the contrary for "lesser" sides. I agree with you, as soon as it comes to the tournament. But you have to qualify for that, too. That's where you need tactics as well. More than motivation. Yeah, which is why both a great tactician and motivator is needed. Capello is just one of the two, which is why it was bound to happen that England failed at the WC. You can't be just a great tactician to be successful at club level so don't buy into that. I think most would agree something wasn't right in the English training camp. As outsiders it's pure speculation at the moment but Capello can't be blamed for the total failure of our World Cup just yet. You can. As a club manager if you fall out with someone, you'll sell him. And the big difference with being at a world cup is that you are together with your players 24/7. You can? As in - 'you can blame him for our total failure at this World Cup'? He made big mistakes tactically but even so, our players - in whatever formation - should be able to beat Algeria. Our players should also know how to defend against a lone striker, from the oppositions goal kick. No. I was referring to the part. When he was with AC Milan going 58 games without defeat.. must been some super supreme tactics then

Klinsmann is s*** when it comes to tactics. The "mastermind" was Löw. Klinsmann was only the "motivator". I think the difference between Beckham and Klinsmann is that the later got away from german football for a few years, coached in the US (where he learned about new training-methods) and then came back. International management is mostly about keeping the players motivated, though. You have such a short period of time to work with the players, motivation plays a much bigger part than tactics for "good" sides. Though it's the contrary for "lesser" sides. I agree with you, as soon as it comes to the tournament. But you have to qualify for that, too. That's where you need tactics as well. More than motivation. Yeah, which is why both a great tactician and motivator is needed. Capello is just one of the two, which is why it was bound to happen that England failed at the WC. You can't be just a great tactician to be successful at club level so don't buy into that. I think most would agree something wasn't right in the English training camp. As outsiders it's pure speculation at the moment but Capello can't be blamed for the total failure of our World Cup just yet. You can. As a club manager if you fall out with someone, you'll sell him. And the big difference with being at a world cup is that you are together with your players 24/7. You can? As in - 'you can blame him for our total failure at this World Cup'? He made big mistakes tactically but even so, our players - in whatever formation - should be able to beat Algeria. Our players should also know how to defend against a lone striker, from the oppositions goal kick.

Klinsmann is s*** when it comes to tactics. The "mastermind" was Löw. Klinsmann was only the "motivator". I think the difference between Beckham and Klinsmann is that the later got away from german football for a few years, coached in the US (where he learned about new training-methods) and then came back. International management is mostly about keeping the players motivated, though. You have such a short period of time to work with the players, motivation plays a much bigger part than tactics for "good" sides. Though it's the contrary for "lesser" sides. I agree with you, as soon as it comes to the tournament. But you have to qualify for that, too. That's where you need tactics as well. More than motivation. Yeah, which is why both a great tactician and motivator is needed. Capello is just one of the two, which is why it was bound to happen that England failed at the WC. You can't be just a great tactician to be successful at club level, so don't really buy into that. I think most would agree something wasn't right in the English training camp. As outsiders it's pure speculation at the moment but Capello can't be blamed for the total failure of our World Cup just yet.

That would be an utter shambles tbh. If he was appointed it would only be for all the marketing money he would bring. The likes of the two Nevilles back in the England fold doesn't bear even thinking about.

'Northerngimp' and 'guinness_fiend' just a bit higher on this page.

That message doesn't seem to get through to some on this board. If Rooney was sat on the bench and wasn't brought on until the 60th minute and we did indeed lose.. people on this board would be saying 'Should always start with your best player! What the f*** was Capello thinking' ..but everyone is right in hindsight and will always know better then any manager. Ever.

You watched a different match to me. James was certainly not happy and also Johnson for the 1st and 2nd. Quite clearly bemused with the defending Yeah, sure they all looked bemused but i didn't see anyone correcting or reminding each other not to do s*** like that. Concede a goal, look bemused, walk back to positon for kick off and start again. If james wasn't happy or bemused with the defense why didn't he let them know instead of just looking bemused? he didnt know what to tell them - he was bemused. James did have a right go at them especially after the first goal. Showed the replays enough times

You watched a different match to me. James was certainly not happy and also Johnson for the 1st and 2nd. Quite clearly bemused with the defending

i think he must have certain pic of english managers to use as blackmail tbh 90% of people on here wanted Heskey to partner Rooney upfront 'he's proven to bring the best out of Rooney' bullshit.

No one said they're 4 times better, but they are better. This whole "England are the best on paper" s*** needs to stop. If it was true they'd have actually made an impact at an International tournament instead of constantly failing. England players just seem to perform at domestic level and European level huh.. which is in my opinion a lot better standard then World Cup. So explain why that is?

Not Mertesacker,he's s****.Friedrich maybe. Podolski definitely Thomas Muller. He bossed the match today. Which English players would get in the German side? Ashley Cole and............ nope, that's it. .... Ballack would have made the German starting 11 today if it wasn't for injury.

Should have sent him home.Play Dawson and Upson and of course if things had gone tits up,he had a ready made scapegoat.Incidentally,I think Dawson wouldn't have defended as poorly as the 2 CB's for their first 2 goals. You know as well as i do, if we defended as poorly as we did today with Terry being sent home. Fans/Press would want Capello's head. Being dumped out of the world cup in that style with your best defender sent home over hardly outrageous remarks.. Terry questioned why Joe Cole wasn't playing, exactly what every England fan was wondering the same thing after those 2 awful games.