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He's very good player but that is way over the top.

Do you pretend to be Mike Ashley often?

A gambling one A poor one Take your pick A gambling/poor businessman likes to lose money eh? Since when? You don't buy into that conspiracy theory as well right?

The mere suggestion of revenge being the motivation for any of this is simply absurd.. ..what type of businessman likes to lose money and see a serious investment fail? Some people on here are just way too paranoid.

No - he's better. And thats saying nothing for petulant prima donna Beckham. How exactly is he better? Beckham has openly said he wanted to leave LA Galaxy so many times, he turned on fans yesterday and tried climb a barrier to get at one, even a team-mate has gone publicly and has said he stopped trying in training and hasn't cared since Gullit left. Michael never responded to transfer rumours, never said was unhappy here, honored his contract and even since leaving hasn't criticised the club although i'm quite certain he regrets his coming here.

That would be playing for the Champions of England and Champions League runners up?

10 days ago there were at least 3 bids which had met the £100m asking price according to Llambias. Since then we have heard absolutely nothing more. Any takeover needs to be done ASAP. As I see it there are 3 possibilities: 1) Llambias was lying 2) Ashley is asking for significantly more than £100m, an unrealistic price for a Championship club with our liabilities 3) Ashley is playing the bidders off each other to get the best possible deal for himself, but harming the club by delaying the takeover In any of those scenarios I think we have a right as supporters to be pissed off at Ashley, do we not? Are you saying we should be sitting back and patiently waiting (which is what everyone is doing IRL tbh) and not even expressing our concern on an internet message board? How dare we! So using the same logic, do you also blame Robson for kicking up a fuss when it was announced his contract wouldn't be renewed in the Summer of 2005? Do you blame him for poor results in the 04-05 season because he took the club to court over his settlement? Do you blame him for increasing the subsequent supporter dissatisfaction with the old board (thus causing a downturn in results I assume) by not only doing nothing to alleviate it, but by releasing his book and inflaming the situation? Again, using the same logic, are the supporters to blame for Robson being sacked (booing the players off the pitch when we only finished 5th)? Was it actually the supporters fault we employed Souness? Would we have achieved higher league positions post Robson if there had been no websites dedicated to criticising the board, and no protests like the one after Sheff Utd in 06, only one of many? Maybe we should rewrite the history books and bump the team up a couple of places in the league under the old board considering the adverse effect the supporters had on performances? Noone ever demanded that, it was typically just a hope expressed mostly by avid Ashley supporters The debt was included in the cost of buying the club, but why would it affect a new owner's transfer policy one way or another? What was the club's stated policy? Link to quotes please. If you find one, try and explain how a 26 year old defender from a foreign league for £12.5m and high wages fits into it. Did anyone even suggest this was likely while Ashley owner? Not sure what this point is about tbh I imagine you were arguing the same when we'd finished 7th, were in Europe, and the call was "Shepherd out!!!111"? Oh no. Yes, all the protests after he took the club off the market and announced "2009 will be the year in which we drive the Club forward together" make your point vividly. What do you say? There weren't any? Can't be true we're all so demanding and unrealistic. Still 2009 btw isn't it, what's happened to Ashley's heartfelt desire to run the club "responsibly at all levels"? Soon evaporated once we got relegated that didn't it. I guess he had to put it back on the market after all those protests at the end of the season. What? There still weren't any protests? Strange, what's forcing him to sell now? He didn't before the 1 week of angry phone calls to talk shows, a banner, and a couple of protests, he didn't after. Didn't make any difference. See top of post. What's the hold up now? Either say there's no-one near what he wants and start to run the club as a going concern, or if there are bids which are close to acceptable, pick the best offer on the table and start the transfer of ownership, finalising any smallprint later. We could at least get a manager in. I'm going to need a link to those claims, I could do with a good laugh. I agree with you that a lot of supporters have had unrealistic expectations from the owners of the club for a long while now. I haven't seen many that were voiced against Ashley though, unless you believe letting the supporters know what's going on at their club as an unrealistic expectation. PS Sorry everyone, I've probably set the team back 10 points next season, and the image of Newcastle supporters 20 years with this post.

Stevie Gerrard is better tbh, more complete player.

I don't think we are lucky enough for this story to turn out to be bullshit.

Well, the mere thought of Kinnear coming back scares the bejesus out of me.

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In all fairness i dont think he signed them. In December he was talking about wanting to bring in a Roma and a few Arsenal players on loan, and sniffing around Championship clubs.

Wonder what Shearer's view is going to be on this.. if true of course.

Barring Southampton has there possibly been a less well run club than us in the past 6/7 years? From Europe to the Championship in a blink of an eye.

Kinnear was on just a rolling contract last year and withing a few months could of very easily been here for the next 2 or 3 years!

How much worse can this club actually go? I was optimistic of us getting rid of the dead wood -- They are still here Change ownership -- Still here. A manager who isn't Kinnear -- looks like that's not happening. Only thing we are missing is the return of Wise?

Shearers press conference and if you look at Llambias body language. He really didn't want Shearer there.

They aren't trying to ruin us ffs they are just complete idiots who don't give a shit about what the fans think. There won't be an explanation as to why we got Kinnear over Shearer either.. we probably don't deserve one.

Why does Ashley do this, is decision making is so shit, Kinnear isn't popular. Shearer is. No one expected Kinnear to be back and yet they make this unbelieveably unpopular decision... a big fuck you to all of us. Even the players want Shearer here more than anyone.

FUCKING HELL. DEREK AND ASHLEY .. I'M SPEECHLESS.. I AM WITHOUT SPEECH.

Why watch? I presume you do, as you find them so offensive.

Me, too. Bidding more is a no-brainer. The player's current club will put pressure on him to sign for the club offering more. He can always refuse, of course, but it's still a sound tactic. To other clubs, shaking on a deal is just notification that the player is available. Newcastle + Michael Owen

They have been linked to Ribery, Kaka,Tevez, Pirlo, Pato and more and your drawing from all that - Abramovich has clearly lost interest? I suppose him personally speaking to John Terry about his future warrants your claim as well.

Yes and league positions didn't show that already. Well it also shows a massive lack of ambition. Lack of ambition? If there is anything that Spurs isn't, its lack of ambition. They always backed their managers and they finished last season very well. Vieira is a weird one, but so was Michael Owen.

well put an official transfer request in instead of trying to skirt round the rules to squeeze every last piece of cash out the club he's supposed to feel so much for. For all we know declaring his interest to leave publicly has voided his loyalty bonus claim? Unless anyone knows this not to be the case perhaps?