Unbelievable

Ramos is top class tbf. Seriously..? Did you seem him just there..? www.onemomentdefinesacareer.com Spain's defense has been shakey all tournament to be fair. Russia was all over them for parts of the first game as well. They have that extra bit of quality up top, but in defense their surprisingly weak.. Its the way they play, don't think Ramos can take any extra criticism for what he's done in E08 tbf. I don't know Ramos very well as an individual player to be fair, just as part of this Spanish defensive unit none of them looks very commanding..

Ramos is top class tbf. Seriously..? Did you seem him just there..? www.onemomentdefinesacareer.com Spain's defense has been shakey all tournament to be fair. Russia was all over them for parts of the first game as well. They have that extra bit of quality up top, but in defense their surprisingly weak..

Ramos is top class tbf. Seriously..? Did you seem him just there..?

Schoolboy defending by the Spanish..

There you go..

Spain have stopped playing football after they scored. Game is getting more physical now. They need to get back to playing football or they will concede.

The whole defence sticks out like a sore thumb to be fair..

Puyol coming off injured?

Great ball from Ibrahimovic. Pity Larsson couldn't shoot properly..

Great alternative corner. Swedish defenders all over the shop. Great little ball in by Silva..

Torres scores..

Spain look great going forward..

You should. The fact Keegan played for Hamburg in times gone by will not mean anything to Van der Vaart though..

What does "leading the chase" mean in this context. There is no way on God's green earth he would consider coming here.. You have to laugh.. there is no way on God`s green earth that most people thought he`d end up signing for Hamburg! I`m not holding my breath like anyway Considering he's of partly Spanish decent and has always stated he would love to play in Spain one day I think that's where he'll go if he leaves. He moved to Germany to further his wife's career strangely. Can't see him wanting to move to the Northeast with all due respect..

It's a good match already!

What does "leading the chase" mean in this context. There is no way on God's green earth he would consider coming here.. You have to laugh.. It means we're closest to agreeing to a deal, it will be bullshit anyway. We can agree a deal with his current club all we want, still doesn't mean he will come to us.

Anyway, it's fair to assume the winner of this match will avoid a draw vs Holland in the quarters..

What does "leading the chase" mean in this context. There is no way on God's green earth he would consider coming here.. You have to laugh..

Might as well add Messi and C. Ronaldo if we're dreaming..

Somebody's got money on Spain then The dutch will rest players and they will be happy to lose the game. They would rather face Romania in the semi final than France or Italy, which is why Romania are odds on to win the game!! I can't see it myself. Players will be rested, but their replacements will not roll over, they will try to battle their way into the team and when you look at the quality of some of them there are some match winners there as well (Huntelaar, Robben, Van Persie, Affelay). What's more, Romania may well be a stronger side than France and Italy in Van Basten's view; they beat and drew to Holland in the qualifying stages for this tournament. I think Holland will play for the win. If Romania manage to take a lead Holland will not go all the way to win the match the way they would have to in the knockout stages, so that may be in the advantage of Romania. I therefore expect Romania to come out all guns blazing and it will be interesting to see how a second string Holland team will cope with that.

If we're being serious, then (if true) this kind of trivial cost saving will put out a feeling of the club being "cheap" to current and potential players. The players will just laugh it off and pay it of course, but they'll still be a bit pissed off about it no matter how insignificant the cost is to them. I have first hand experience of this kind of thing working for a company which is cutting and cutting staff perks; the gain to the company and the loss to the staff is trivial, but workforce morale is shot to s***. Any financial cost saving the company makes is far outweighed by the time wasted by everyone whinging about it, and reduced motivation to do a good job. It probably doesn't matter much in companies like Sports Direct where staff motivation is probably so low it can't get any worse and trivial savings mount up across a large number of stores, but at a football club keeping the playing staff happy and motivated is a very important thing. If it was a reasonably significant cost saving then it may be worth it, but this just seems stupidly petty. That's exactly how I felt when I read the article. While other clubs are chasing transfer targets we are cost cutting on ridiculously small details in the bigger scheme of things. What a way to be portrayed in the press. Is this what they meant when they said Ashley would take a more hands on approach..

We will see. I think this has just been the approach these two games and also partly due to the fact they took an early lead in both games. It's not Holland's natural game to sit back, soak up pressure and hit teams on the break, far from it. They are more than capable of dominating a game as well. It will be interesting to see how the fare when the opposition scores the first goal..

Agreed, hence me stating the fact that he's been poor at Chelsea since he's been there....all I'm saying is he's been solid so far in the two games against supposedly two of the world's best teams!! The Premiership isn't the be all and end all of football you know..? Don't see what you're getting at?!?!? All I was doing was pointing out that he has looked solid these two games he has played yet he's looked distinctly average at club level!!!!! See there you go and do it again.. He hasn't looked distinctly average at club level or he would have never been in the Holland squad or with Chelsea in the first place. He may have looked distinctly average at Chelsea in the handful of matches he has played, but that doesn't mean he's crap.. It may come as a surprise to you how well he's capable of playing, but that says more about your knowledge of football outside of the Premiership than it does about Boulahrouz as a player I'm afraid..

Agreed, hence me stating the fact that he's been poor at Chelsea since he's been there....all I'm saying is he's been solid so far in the two games against supposedly two of the world's best teams!! The Premiership isn't the be all and end all of football you know..? No, but it's better than you. That goes without saying..

Agreed, hence me stating the fact that he's been poor at Chelsea since he's been there....all I'm saying is he's been solid so far in the two games against supposedly two of the world's best teams!! The Premiership isn't the be all and end all of football you know..?