Unbelievable

Close, very close..

Decent free kick position.. Come on Raylor..

I thought it was a trademark Owen miss..

Shit!

Hit the post there?

For the umpteenth time, even if Pedersen had dived the channel after the foul, that shouldn't have had any bearing on the penalty decision itself. Pedersen did go down easily, probably to make a penalty decision more likely, and ended up doing the exact opposite. However, it's a split second decision. He would have burried it if Rafael wouldn't have put him off his balance by holding his shoulder for a very short time. What was he to do except fall given it was an instinctive reaction? Shoot while out of balance and miss and then try to claim a penalty? Not very likely that would have been given. The ref made the wrong decision, the sort of decision that often goes Man U's way these days (I remember a hands ball a couple vs Derby a week or so ago; Portsmouth got burned for a player not even touching the ball with his hand today)..

Nonsense

Portsmouth can feel a little hard done by today I think..

It probably would be called a penalty for any other team, but I don't think it should be. Penalty should be given if the player is attempting to score, not looking to go to ground, which Pedersen clearly was (and no idea why Pedersen did, he could easily have stayed on his feet and been one on one with the keeper). Strange that. There are other reasons why a pen can be given, even hand ball without immediate danger of the opposition scoring. I don't understand the theatrics when there is a clear foul like this. As far as I am concerned MGP should have just stopped running, pick up the ball and put it on the spot. Stonewall penalty for what the defender was trying to do: hold him back by the shoulder in a one on one with the goalkeeper when he was already beaten.. You could even argue last man, and a red (would have been if it was outside of the box; what makes it less of a foul inside of the box?) I guess I should have been more clear-I meant in those kinds of situations only, handballs and the like are different. Rafael might have had the intention to hold back MGP, but he didn't in the end. You are allowed to put your hands on a player as long as you don't impede them, and MGP simply felt a touch and went down without ever actually having been impeded. Also, I actually don't agree that a foul outside the box should be held 100% to the same standard as a foul in the box, because the results are different. If they were indeed the same, then just like any other foul, the affected team should be given a free kick at the spot of the foul, instead of a special situation of a free one-on-one with the keeper. A penalty is a special situation. I don't see why something like a foul created by stepping on a players foot when he wasn't involved should result in a penalty just because he was inside the box. If you don't think Rafael held MGP back you may want to watch it again on MOTD. He almost hung around his neck. With regards to fouls inside the box: such are the rules, and such is the way they should be followed. Are you saying it would have been a free kick in a very good position (better than the one Ronaldo scored from) if it would have been a few yards further back from goal but not a pen as it was in the box, because that does not make any sense to me..? It was a clear foul, whatever MGP did or didn't do after the foul should have been irrelevant to the judgement of the foul situation itself, or next thing you know we will have players getting acting lessons to prepare for matches.. And whilst we are on the subject of that particular match the decision to chalk off the Johnny Evans "goal" from the "corner" was a clear cut case of the sort of crap that goes on imo. It wasn't a corner but there was nothing wrong with the "goal".......so Webb puts it right - sort of. Didn't see that incident, so can't comment. Agree about not being able to stand referees balancing decisions out; it's ridiculous..

It probably would be called a penalty for any other team, but I don't think it should be. Penalty should be given if the player is attempting to score, not looking to go to ground, which Pedersen clearly was (and no idea why Pedersen did, he could easily have stayed on his feet and been one on one with the keeper). Strange that. There are other reasons why a pen can be given, even hand ball without immediate danger of the opposition scoring. I don't understand the theatrics when there is a clear foul like this. As far as I am concerned MGP should have just stopped running, pick up the ball and put it on the spot. Stonewall penalty for what the defender was trying to do: hold him back by the shoulder in a one on one with the goalkeeper when he was already beaten.. You could even argue last man, and a red (would have been if it was outside of the box; what makes it less of a foul inside of the box?) I guess I should have been more clear-I meant in those kinds of situations only, handballs and the like are different. Rafael might have had the intention to hold back MGP, but he didn't in the end. You are allowed to put your hands on a player as long as you don't impede them, and MGP simply felt a touch and went down without ever actually having been impeded. Also, I actually don't agree that a foul outside the box should be held 100% to the same standard as a foul in the box, because the results are different. If they were indeed the same, then just like any other foul, the affected team should be given a free kick at the spot of the foul, instead of a special situation of a free one-on-one with the keeper. A penalty is a special situation. I don't see why something like a foul created by stepping on a players foot when he wasn't involved should result in a penalty just because he was inside the box. If you don't think Rafael held MGP back you may want to watch it again on MOTD. He almost hung around his neck. With regards to fouls inside the box: such are the rules, and such is the way they should be followed. Are you saying it would have been a free kick in a very good position (better than the one Ronaldo scored from) if it would have been a few yards further back from goal but not a pen as it was in the box, because that does not make any sense to me..? It was a clear foul, whatever MGP did or didn't do after the foul should have been irrelevant to the judgement of the foul situation itself, or next thing you know we will have players getting acting lessons to prepare for matches..

It probably would be called a penalty for any other team, but I don't think it should be. Penalty should be given if the player is attempting to score, not looking to go to ground, which Pedersen clearly was (and no idea why Pedersen did, he could easily have stayed on his feet and been one on one with the keeper). Strange that. There are other reasons why a pen can be given, even hand ball without immediate danger of the opposition scoring. I don't understand the theatrics when there is a clear foul like this. As far as I am concerned MGP should have just stopped running, pick up the ball and put it on the spot. Stonewall penalty for what the defender was trying to do: hold him back by the shoulder in a one on one with the goalkeeper when he was already beaten.. You could even argue last man, and a red (would have been if it was outside of the box; what makes it less of a foul inside of the box?)

Went down easily, but was clearly pulled back from behind in a one on one with the goalkeeper situation. A pen every day of the week, except for Man U day..

That would have been a pen against every other team in the Prem..

Just seen the challenge. Completely out of control tackle. Hope he gets suspended for a good while..

The new Zamblera?

This thread is verging on blasphemy.. Owen ffs..

Lol, could so easily have been a pen..

Losers. Aye, in a mickey mouse league too..

3-0

Ah, this is a world record for league football only..

Mazaropi (Vasco da Gama, Brazil) 1,816mins Some way to go still..

Don't know what record this was. Just saying on Dutch telly some Belgian goalkeeper kept the net clean for 1390 minutes, which would be achievable in their Blackburn match this weekend. So, not a world record. Anybody know what the world record is?

That nearly didn't last long..

Tis done.

Man U/Van der Sar 10 minutes from a new world record for not conceeding a single goal..