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And another thing. The 'europeeen' players will jack it if this shit continues.

But he was on fire. If we're saying that players are now performing poorly due to coaching/tactics then surely when players are on form then it's down to the same? Player plays well = It's the player digging the manager out of a hole Player doesn't play well = Pardew's fault Wake up man. I'm talking about the fact as a team we don't create many chances. That's what I mean about Ba. He scored what to me looked like quite a few half chances.

If Ba hadn't been on fire those few weeks we'd be seeing a more realisitc picture. That is the truth of it.

....and why did he do COMPLETELY THE WRONG THING away to Spurs? None of it makes sense I tells ya!

Not just the engine room though is it? We all know he's hysterical about protecting the back 4, but we're saying against teams like Norwich he's overdoing the caution.

It's like how graphite rackets destroyed tennis. Most PL football is all about running about now and intensity and fitness and hot zones and all that crap. It's fukin boring. Might as well not use a ball, just 11 v 11 long distance running.

Football is simple. If the MF are too deep there is nobody to pass to BUT the forwards. It's that simple it's what's been going on. And when they do venture forward too much Pards sends Shola on to TELL THEM OFF. Seen it a few times now, Shola pointing at Tiote and telling him to stay back. Our wingers spend most of the game (not all) as def wingers. Again Pards isn't confident that if we pushed up the park the def could handle the counter. These are the nuts and bolts of what's going on. That little ball Guti played to Cisse the other day reminded me that he is a full Argentinian international. I'd rather see more of that. You can see when Hatem casually starts causing havoc in the opp half he rarely has more than one pass on as the bulk of the side are sitting back.

Yeah but we're ONLY sixth - in a season when many expected us to struggle and many more tipped us for relegation. Surely if we had a manager who knew what he was doing we'd be in the top three and probably unbeaten. Personally I'd rather be in the bottom three and playing the beautiful football inspired by the purist Martinez at Wigan. You can only really compare Martinez if he's got a similar squad to work with. It's not like at Wigan he's got Collocinis, Tiotes, Ba's Cabayes or Cisses at his disposal. Similarly, what could Pardew do with Kompany, Richards, Toure & Aguero at his disposal. Launch the ball 70 yards towards their heads I suspect. He'd put Aguero (too small and too cultured) on the wing and drop Silva for not tracking back. He'd play Bello and Dzeko upfront. Within about four weeks he's have Hart hoofing it.

We're running too much cause we don't keep a hold of the ball when we get it and that isn't due to having bad players it's cause they are INSTRUCTED to hit the front early.

I knew Pards was defensive when he carried on playing 442 when it was clear we have shit/unthreatening wingers and they are mainly there to cover the fullbacks. That was months ago. Then he tried to play Raylor RM for a bit while Hatem was staring vacantly onto the pitch watching his life drift by. Then he's bought Cisse to play with Ba but we still don't have wingers who can provide the ammo, neither do we have two proper DM's (Cabaye even to the idle observer isn't a deep midfielder - he has so much more to his game than that). So, Pards continues with this hodgepotch stubbornly when it is clear the players we have (or did have) were suited to a 433 or a high 451. I feel sorry for him cause like in Lost he's still pressing the button and watching the numbers change and has decided to not leave the bunker.

He also signed, and played, Yossi Benayoun, who was brilliant in that season where they finished mid-table and almost won the FA Cup. I think the Benayoun card is a tad overplayed by YOU Nut. This must be the 3rd time you've tried to slip it into this thread.

You're missing group C : Get rid, we've seen through the flim flam. there's not enough of them to constitute a group imo You're missing group C : Get rid, we've seen through the flim flam. there's not enough of them to constitute a group imo Cause they is cloaked, they wait in the shadows, but you sees fleeting glimpses of them in this thread - they is waiting like a panzer inside a barn at the edge of ze French village.

You're missing group C : Get rid, we've seen through the flim flam.

Been playin cards with Ba all night.

Played well and has the makings of a good squad player who can put the boot in and get himself around the park when needed.

I lost it with Pardew when this happened. Absolute arsehole. There was nothing wrong with what HBA did yet he chooses to lambast him and not say anything to Williamson, horrible management. How do you know he didn't have a go at Williamson? Were you on Pardewcam? I made a point of watching how Pardew reacted to what happened; he only had a go at HBA. Laugh all you want but the truth hurts. I assume you were at the game, you stopped paying attention to everything else, drowned out the noise from the crowd, were sitting right near Pardew and heard him single out Ben Arfa? Did see it on me chinese telly tbf. He waved Hatem to get back upfield and shouted 'Hatem fukin hell"! Hatem must be confused is he meant to get back? Stay forward? Do the moonwalk? What?

In def of Pardew the first half hour was fine.

All the teams in the top seven apart from us. I can ensure you Chelsea and Liverpool didn't. Both those sides are only missing a real goalscorer, they create plenty of chances. Chelsea are getting back to their best now half the players aren't on strike.

When they opened up they pinned us back for long periods. If they'd have started like that they probs would have won.

Every fukin game is a shambles now.

Just get Rodgers. Like Coyle, Holloway, Grant etc.. No Rodgers. He'd come. He won't be able to grow with Swansea he knows that.

Like I said hard. Whatever name I give you there will be a problem with it. Dragan Stojkovic. Rodgers.

Just get Rodgers.

I do it.

If Norwich had gone for it from the start they would have got something and maybe even won the game. In the 2nd half we looked frightened, tired and out of ideas. Strangely it was Shola who steadied the ship with some good holdup play. Ba's first touch has gone to shit for some reason.