Parky

Good to see it on the other foot for a, South Americans conned for a change. Fuck off Kaka you grinning playboy cunt.

Ivory Coast should give Brazil a proper test.

Two players always have to remain in the opp half. hee hee

I do wonder about the Terry thing. You just know that Terry is the kind of tit that would take umbrage to losing the captaincy and would hold it against Capello, even though it was his own fucking fault. Part of the reason Bridge pulled out of contention for a place in the squad was because Terry was such a big figure in the dressing room, I honestly wouldn't be at all shocked if Terry is a real problem in that dressing room. Certainly wouldn't want to cross him, seems a bit of an evil cunt by all accounts. On the other hand I think he will give it all in the next game and it was good for him to come forward as he did and talk to the press frankly and calmly.

But if 2/3 of the 4 don't play well or aren't sure what they are doing, the whole team drops a level like any other side. Broadly speaking these players should be good enough to make an impact at the tournament I agree with that.

He is an incredible manager. But a better manager would realise his mistakes and attempt to find a system that suited his players, rather than try to force his players to become suited to a system. That's where he's going wrong. Square pegs, round holes. Isn't it more or less same system used all through qualifying? Players seemed happy then. I could be wrong. That's what leads me to believe it's something to do with unhappiness/Capello's approach to the players - after all, in qualiying they were together for a few days at a time. At the minute, they've been together for weeks - maybe they could take his cold approach in small dosage, but having to put up with it for two weeks straight is lowering morale and upsetting the better players. It may well be the same system as qualifying, but now it's not working. He needs to see that or we'll be on the plane home come Thursday morning. All this morale stuff is bollocks, these overpaid, overhyped, self-centered boys (they clearly aren't men) are letting the country down cause they aren't allowed to wear flip flops, be on their phones all day and away from their wives and their world class shopping habits. That is basically it. They really think they are something and it must have come as a shock in the first 20 min against Algeria who were running rings round them with most players earning peanuts and playing at small clubs. They need to get their heads together for Wed cause if they don't get out of the group all hell will break loose. I don't really care how much they care, how much they think of themselves and how much they're paid - I've pretty much come to expect that this is what football has become and it will probably never change. They're unhappy, it's as simple as that. Make them happy and they'll play better. Apparently they're not unhappy they're bored and they think Capello should be more like a friendly uncle dolling out lollipops and shit. I really don't think they have a clue what the world cup means to the man in the street. Sickening. If Brian Clough had been in charge Rooney would already have been on the plane.

He is an incredible manager. But a better manager would realise his mistakes and attempt to find a system that suited his players, rather than try to force his players to become suited to a system. That's where he's going wrong. Square pegs, round holes. Isn't it more or less same system used all through qualifying? Players seemed happy then. I could be wrong. That's what leads me to believe it's something to do with unhappiness/Capello's approach to the players - after all, in qualiying they were together for a few days at a time. At the minute, they've been together for weeks - maybe they could take his cold approach in small dosage, but having to put up with it for two weeks straight is lowering morale and upsetting the better players. It may well be the same system as qualifying, but now it's not working. He needs to see that or we'll be on the plane home come Thursday morning. All this morale stuff is bollocks, these overpaid, overhyped, self-centered boys (they clearly aren't men) are letting the country down cause they aren't allowed to wear flip flops, be on their phones all day and away from their wives and their world class shopping habits. That is basically it. They really think they are something and it must have come as a shock in the first 20 min against Algeria who were running rings round them with most players earning peanuts and playing at small clubs. They need to get their heads together for Wed cause if they don't get out of the group all hell will break loose.

I'm not saying the source is accurate, I'm just saying they seem to be hitting around the right area. And it's exactly what everybody else is saying, they're writing what we want to read. Offering suggestions? They're not on the England coaching staff and nobody from the England coaching staff will be reading. There's no influence there and if you think there is, it completely contradicts your earlier comment about the NOTW's lack of a decent track record. At the end of the day, there is something wrong with the squad and the team is underperforming. We're unhappy, they're unhappy, and so the media are reporting unhappiness - they've every right to. That Telegraph article just posted has done exactly that, in terms of offering suggestions about how to change the shape of the side and it briefly speculates on what might be going wrong in terms of individual performances from a psychological perspective. To me, that's a good article, although maybe not SENSATIONAL enough, and it doesn't have quotes from an inside source. My only gripe here is the way in which certain papers report on things and stoke the fire, much like they have done to NUFC and continue to do. Offering tactical suggestions for people to consider and get behind (I would say most on here would support Heskey being dropped for Cole) seems harmless enough and is constructive at times, but making up sensationalist crap that turns fans against Rooney and Capello in that manner is wrong. As far as the contradiction goes, of course papers have influence at all levels. Players and managers tend to read the rags and watch SSN (which covers the papers and has journos in doing interviews and which the England team have access to in their rooms). But it's the influence on fans that is narking me, it's stoking everyone up to turn on the team and certain individuals before the biggest game we've had in 4 years. I think it's a fair article and looks at both sides. For me Capello made a mistake not bringing a left footed winger and then compounding it by not starting Cole.

He is an incredible manager. But a better manager would realise his mistakes and attempt to find a system that suited his players, rather than try to force his players to become suited to a system. That's where he's going wrong. Square pegs, round holes. Isn't it more or less same system used all through qualifying? Players seemed happy then. I could be wrong.

I'm not totally blaming the players, but I'm not stupid enough to hang one of the best managers in the world out to dry either. There needs to be some compromise, the players are clearly unhappy at having to play football at a high standard and to distinct instructions.

You've ignored the bit where the writer says he's got his tactics all wrong and is playing five of the front six in a system unfamiliar to them. That's why I added the link.

I'm not their biggest fans, but pretty much everything I've just read is spot on. I can imagine it being the truth too. You can tell on the pitch that something is not right behind the scenes. In this instance, the media are saying exactly what everyone in England is thinking. "Inside sources" and all that bollocks as well? Making Rooney the easy scapegoat after what he said to the camera? It's all very convenient to me and they seem to revel in the fact that something isn't right. Hope it builds some sort of siege mentality, allowing us to do the business on Wednesday and then see where we go from there. Not to the extreme they report, but I can imagine Rooney's attitude being a problem amongst the squad. I can also imagine that Capello's way of managing (the lack of emotion and 'friendliness' etc) is not popular with the players, especially after having Sven and McClaren as managers previous. They seemed fine with it till the got to the world cup though. Strange.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/world-cup-2010/teams/england/7840712/World-Cup-2010-if-Fabio-Capello-cant-coach-England-to-glory-could-anyone.html "I think the fear of the World Cup is in the minds of the players. It's incredible. The performance on one side is good [in training] but on the other one they are not the same players." How do you expect to institute change if the players cannot or will not listen to what you want them to do? Surely nobody out there thinks that what England did against Algeria was what Capello wanted? How do you stop this fear of the World Cup apart from by going out of it? Capello's post-match despair in the bowels of the Green Point stadium was that of a man who had been beaten. He has received everything that he has asked of the Football Association to ensure that the team received the best possible preparation. There can be no blame thrown in that direction. No, it comes down either to Capello's incompetence or that of his players. Guess who's got the track record?

They don't really think like modern footballers either and the PL is totally different to slower paced international games, which are much more about nous and carving an oppurtunity.

Exactly this. the players are good enough to get to at least the quarters. poor tactics and organisation is the big failing here. They're struggling to control and pass the ball on a consistent basis. Doesn't help when the boss is chopping and changing the team, granted, but they're not getting the job done. Capello will get the stick but his players are letting him down badly imho. I really think this is mental thing going on, they have been spooked and lost confidence from the Usa game, when already some were playing poorly. So many little (but important things) have gone wrong. I also think they don't really want to play as the mainly Italian management team want them to play. Should have taken that monster Agbonolor, would have been ideal for Wed. Confidence or no confidence he just goes through them.

That's definitely the plan like, not player mind you, but I think he'll get it after Capello if he stays on til the Euros. Our attempt at a van Basten or Klinsmann appointment. :lol: :lol: Beckham England manager???!!! My goodness. Yeah, wait. What the fuck is wrong with me. Beckham 2012! He...looks good in a suit! Not trying to apply logic here! Just reckon that's what'll end out happening. That would be crazy if it happened. Would be. Not really going to bang on about it, just remember reading about the possibilities of it a few months back. In the article it also mentioned Linekar, which wouldn't bother me, and Shearer. Wouldn't mind giving Shearer a stab at it like. That said, I'm still a firm fan of Capello. Would be gutted if all his blatant good work got undone in the matter of two frigging weeks. Aye. I reckon he will be massively hurt if we didn't qualify, seeing as it would be such a massive blot on an excellent career. The last two years under him I've actually felt a bit of pride towards the actual England team. There was no more of the WAG shit, no more celebrity culture and he blew the bubble, finally, on Michael "I earn on my old reputation" Owen. Never mind the results. You know, winning games we should be winning and that. Just the final hurdle has been a disaster, but at least we've not lost! Yet.. As I said above I bet some of the dis-harmony is cause Capello isn't letting them do what the fuck they like, as they used to do in tournaments past, with hanger oners, wifes, girlfriends and the like...

I bet the England players are put out and sulking and being beligerant and irritated they aren't being allowed to get upto the usual hi-jinx they do when away at tournaments. They aren't really men, they are spoilt boys with a lot of money and a gift which has protected them from real life.

Has an assist for our only goal so far.

I too have enjoyed watching Ghana, North Korea strangely enough is another who I'm looking forward to watching again and Chile... Chile were excellent as well.

Pleasure to watch Ghana with their free flowing football, players taking on players, no fear of having a shot from range.. all good except they tend to go to sleep at the back from time to time.

That's definitely the plan like, not player mind you, but I think he'll get it after Capello if he stays on til the Euros. Our attempt at a van Basten or Klinsmann appointment. :lol: :lol: Beckham England manager???!!! My goodness. Yeah, wait. What the fuck is wrong with me. Beckham 2012! He...looks good in a suit!

Intersting post. But should Eng players really need motivating at a WC?

Hodgon will be appointed, there will be a brief rise in fortunes before the players go back to being over paid, over hyped buffoons. Back to square one. 1. It is the players. 2. The way they grow up in English football. 3. Too much football of the wrong kind. Get to WC, culture shock.

As Bluf insinuated earlier the money machine that is the PL and all the huff and puff that goes with that, really doesn't breed players with a deeper understanding of the game. You could just take Rich's football brain and put it in our midfielders and we'd be unstoppable once they mastered trapping and passing like.

Doesn't seem to be doing France much good. Their squad is coming to the end of a very good 10 year cycle. It will be replenished as new talent steps up. It's the new players who are underperforming, tbh. Well they reached the final in 2006 and won it in 1998. They are now going through a period of replacing Viera, Henry, Zidane, Thuram, Barthez etc...It will take a few years till the new team takes shape. Or take a look at the 2002 Argentina team: full of good, technically adept players but were absolutely shite, or Spain teams going back years and years. It's most a mental issue, imo. I don't think the German teams of the past have necessarily been better players, but clearly had greater mental strength. Oh, totally agree, it is in large part a metal issue, but having the other support structures in place help in small ways with that. The Germans are indeed a good example. At international level, England management really need to decide once and for all for better or worse how England is going to go about it, either play their natural game with players in their natural positions or a more composed and tactical European way. I still think deep down if even these players really understood and BELIEVED in what Capello is trying to do then the results will come at the business end (qualifying is a different kettle of fish altogether).