Parky

I would have thought all that was obvious to most. He must go at the end of this campaign on promotion.

Out of all the teams in the chamionship, we have been least outplayed. Rubbish. Nearly every game we're consistently under pressure. I bet you can't name more than 2/3 games we've dominated or created loads of chances. Good luck. It seems to me that a team which is outplayed constantly wouldn't be top of the league. I don't give a fuck how much pressure we are under, i care about results. We can have one shot on target in every game all season if it means we are top of the league. in a large percentage of the games i've watched this season that we've won the score could have been a hell of a lot different if the team took their chances. while we may be able to get away with letting teams have good chances in this league we will be murdered for it in the premiership. I agree with you but i will discuss that problem when/if we go up. By the way, there are plenty of team's who play a similar style in the premiership, not that our fans will except it. Is that what you do in real life, deal with problems at the last minute?? Christ. We are talking about Newcastle United who are not in the premiership, we are top of the chamionship. I'm talking about hughtons performances now. I will talk about that when there is something to talk about, keep up. What is the title of the thread? It's about Hughton, can you not read like? The difference is, i'm talking about him now, without the aid of your time machine or crystal ball. Can you read? Can you?

Out of all the teams in the chamionship, we have been least outplayed. Rubbish. Nearly every game we're consistently under pressure. I bet you can't name more than 2/3 games we've dominated or created loads of chances. Good luck. It seems to me that a team which is outplayed constantly wouldn't be top of the league. I don't give a fuck how much pressure we are under, i care about results. We can have one shot on target in every game all season if it means we are top of the league. in a large percentage of the games i've watched this season that we've won the score could have been a hell of a lot different if the team took their chances. while we may be able to get away with letting teams have good chances in this league we will be murdered for it in the premiership. I agree with you but i will discuss that problem when/if we go up. By the way, there are plenty of team's who play a similar style in the premiership, not that our fans will except it. Is that what you do in real life, deal with problems at the last minute?? Christ. We are talking about Newcastle United who are not in the premiership, we are top of the chamionship. I'm talking about hughtons performances now. I will talk about that when there is something to talk about, keep up. What is the title of the thread? It's about Hughton, can you not read like? The difference is, i'm talking about him now, without the aid of your time machine or crystal ball. Can you read?

I was simply parroting Parky's assessment of our tactics there tbh. I have absolutely no problem with well argued critiques like you give yourself, it just seemed like this thread had descended into a match thread type slag fest with no thought whatsoever going into the criticisms. It goes without saying that the defending has set us apart in this league and is the main reason we are top. However if we blamed the midfield for poor defending last year you can't just ignore it as part of the improvement this season, and part of that is the coaching and tactics. We also have the 4th highest number of goals for. That has to come from somewhere and it can't just be from Nolan, Shola & Guthrie creating goals out of nothing and being lethal in front of goal, they're not the players you would have said that about before the season started. In fact a lot of the criticism Hughton is getting is from playing Nolan at all and from having Guthrie on the wing where he is getting his assists and goals. The team we have CAN play good football and we've seen it on occasion, however I think the main problem is that they just don't have the stamina to sustain it for much of the game, especially the central midfielders which are the key to it. I suppose you could blame Hughton for the fitness of the players, but generally I think it's just an inherent failing in those players and there's not a lot you can do about it. FWIW I have my doubts about Hughton myself, but I'm more concerned about his potential ability to motivate the players when things aren't going so well than his tactics. I'd be much happier if h e was the assistant manager. Why not just post the last para and save the essays? Nobody will read all of that. You're concerned about his "potential ability to motivate the players"....!!! Wake the fuck up. He'll be out on his ear after 12 games the most in the PL. Cool. Then we can pick up Benitez after Liverpool sack him, and the following year get Wenger once we finish above Arsenal. Hilarious.

I was simply parroting Parky's assessment of our tactics there tbh. I have absolutely no problem with well argued critiques like you give yourself, it just seemed like this thread had descended into a match thread type slag fest with no thought whatsoever going into the criticisms. It goes without saying that the defending has set us apart in this league and is the main reason we are top. However if we blamed the midfield for poor defending last year you can't just ignore it as part of the improvement this season, and part of that is the coaching and tactics. We also have the 4th highest number of goals for. That has to come from somewhere and it can't just be from Nolan, Shola & Guthrie creating goals out of nothing and being lethal in front of goal, they're not the players you would have said that about before the season started. In fact a lot of the criticism Hughton is getting is from playing Nolan at all and from having Guthrie on the wing where he is getting his assists and goals. The team we have CAN play good football and we've seen it on occasion, however I think the main problem is that they just don't have the stamina to sustain it for much of the game, especially the central midfielders which are the key to it. I suppose you could blame Hughton for the fitness of the players, but generally I think it's just an inherent failing in those players and there's not a lot you can do about it. FWIW I have my doubts about Hughton myself, but I'm more concerned about his potential ability to motivate the players when things aren't going so well than his tactics. I'd be much happier if h e was the assistant manager. Why not just post the last para and save the essays? Nobody will read all of that. You're concerned about his "potential ability to motivate the players"....!!! Wake the fuck up. He'll be out on his ear after 12 games the most in the PL. We are not in the premiership. If I'm following you....You want to wait till CH fucks up in the PL....Why? I'd review the situation at the end of the season. But not halfway through the current one like you clearly would. It's a point o discussion. I don't run the club.

Out of all the teams in the chamionship, we have been least outplayed. Rubbish. Nearly every game we're consistently under pressure. I bet you can't name more than 2/3 games we've dominated or created loads of chances. Good luck. It seems to me that a team which is outplayed constantly wouldn't be top of the league. I don't give a fuck how much pressure we are under, i care about results. We can have one shot on target in every game all season if it means we are top of the league. in a large percentage of the games i've watched this season that we've won the score could have been a hell of a lot different if the team took their chances. while we may be able to get away with letting teams have good chances in this league we will be murdered for it in the premiership. I agree with you but i will discuss that problem when/if we go up. By the way, there are plenty of team's who play a similar style in the premiership, not that our fans will except it. Is that what you do in real life, deal with problems at the last minute?? Christ. We are talking about Newcastle United who are not in the premiership, we are top of the chamionship. I'm talking about hughtons performances now. I will talk about that when there is something to talk about, keep up. What is the title of the thread?

I was simply parroting Parky's assessment of our tactics there tbh. I have absolutely no problem with well argued critiques like you give yourself, it just seemed like this thread had descended into a match thread type slag fest with no thought whatsoever going into the criticisms. It goes without saying that the defending has set us apart in this league and is the main reason we are top. However if we blamed the midfield for poor defending last year you can't just ignore it as part of the improvement this season, and part of that is the coaching and tactics. We also have the 4th highest number of goals for. That has to come from somewhere and it can't just be from Nolan, Shola & Guthrie creating goals out of nothing and being lethal in front of goal, they're not the players you would have said that about before the season started. In fact a lot of the criticism Hughton is getting is from playing Nolan at all and from having Guthrie on the wing where he is getting his assists and goals. The team we have CAN play good football and we've seen it on occasion, however I think the main problem is that they just don't have the stamina to sustain it for much of the game, especially the central midfielders which are the key to it. I suppose you could blame Hughton for the fitness of the players, but generally I think it's just an inherent failing in those players and there's not a lot you can do about it. FWIW I have my doubts about Hughton myself, but I'm more concerned about his potential ability to motivate the players when things aren't going so well than his tactics. I'd be much happier if he was the assistant manager. Fair enough. I also agree about motivation, though that's not been too much of a problem this season. Morale looks high and, at the very least, Hughton's not done anything stupid of the Souness or Allardyce variety such as alienate players or descend into petty rivalries with them. Not sure what all this means really.

I was simply parroting Parky's assessment of our tactics there tbh. I have absolutely no problem with well argued critiques like you give yourself, it just seemed like this thread had descended into a match thread type slag fest with no thought whatsoever going into the criticisms. It goes without saying that the defending has set us apart in this league and is the main reason we are top. However if we blamed the midfield for poor defending last year you can't just ignore it as part of the improvement this season, and part of that is the coaching and tactics. We also have the 4th highest number of goals for. That has to come from somewhere and it can't just be from Nolan, Shola & Guthrie creating goals out of nothing and being lethal in front of goal, they're not the players you would have said that about before the season started. In fact a lot of the criticism Hughton is getting is from playing Nolan at all and from having Guthrie on the wing where he is getting his assists and goals. The team we have CAN play good football and we've seen it on occasion, however I think the main problem is that they just don't have the stamina to sustain it for much of the game, especially the central midfielders which are the key to it. I suppose you could blame Hughton for the fitness of the players, but generally I think it's just an inherent failing in those players and there's not a lot you can do about it. FWIW I have my doubts about Hughton myself, but I'm more concerned about his potential ability to motivate the players when things aren't going so well than his tactics. I'd be much happier if h e was the assistant manager. Why not just post the last para and save the essays? Nobody will read all of that. You're concerned about his "potential ability to motivate the players"....!!! Wake the fuck up. He'll be out on his ear after 12 games the most in the PL. We are not in the premiership. If I'm following you....You want to wait till CH fucks up in the PL....Why?

Most of us were very positive about KK didn't get us very far did it?

Out of all the teams in the chamionship, we have been least outplayed. Rubbish. Nearly every game we're consistently under pressure. I bet you can't name more than 2/3 games we've dominated or created loads of chances. Good luck. It seems to me that a team which is outplayed constantly wouldn't be top of the league. I don't give a fuck how much pressure we are under, i care about results. We can have one shot on target in every game all season if it means we are top of the league. in a large percentage of the games i've watched this season that we've won the score could have been a hell of a lot different if the team took their chances. while we may be able to get away with letting teams have good chances in this league we will be murdered for it in the premiership. I agree with you but i will discuss that problem when/if we go up. By the way, there are plenty of team's who play a similar style in the premiership, not that our fans will except it. Is that what you do in real life, deal with problems at the last minute?? Christ.

I was simply parroting Parky's assessment of our tactics there tbh. I have absolutely no problem with well argued critiques like you give yourself, it just seemed like this thread had descended into a match thread type slag fest with no thought whatsoever going into the criticisms. It goes without saying that the defending has set us apart in this league and is the main reason we are top. However if we blamed the midfield for poor defending last year you can't just ignore it as part of the improvement this season, and part of that is the coaching and tactics. We also have the 4th highest number of goals for. That has to come from somewhere and it can't just be from Nolan, Shola & Guthrie creating goals out of nothing and being lethal in front of goal, they're not the players you would have said that about before the season started. In fact a lot of the criticism Hughton is getting is from playing Nolan at all and from having Guthrie on the wing where he is getting his assists and goals. The team we have CAN play good football and we've seen it on occasion, however I think the main problem is that they just don't have the stamina to sustain it for much of the game, especially the central midfielders which are the key to it. I suppose you could blame Hughton for the fitness of the players, but generally I think it's just an inherent failing in those players and there's not a lot you can do about it. FWIW I have my doubts about Hughton myself, but I'm more concerned about his potential ability to motivate the players when things aren't going so well than his tactics. I'd be much happier if h e was the assistant manager. Why not just post the last para and save the essays? Nobody will read all of that. You're concerned about his "potential ability to motivate the players"....!!! Wake the fuck up. He'll be out on his ear after 12 games the most in the PL.

Out of all the teams in the chamionship, we have been least outplayed. Rubbish. Nearly every game we're consistently under pressure. I bet you can't name more than 2/3 games we've dominated or created loads of chances. Good luck. It seems to me that a team which is outplayed constantly wouldn't be top of the league. I don't give a fuck how much pressure we are under, i care about results. We can have one shot on target in every game all season if it means we are top of the league. in a large percentage of the games i've watched this season that we've won the score could have been a hell of a lot different if the team took their chances. while we may be able to get away with letting teams have good chances in this league we will be murdered for it in the premiership. Yup.

Out of all the teams in the chamionship, we have been least outplayed. Rubbish. Nearly every game we're consistently under pressure. I bet you can't name more than 2/3 games we've dominated or created loads of chances. Good luck. It seems to me that a team which is outplayed constantly wouldn't be top of the league. I don't give a fuck how much pressure we are under, i care about results. We can have one shot on target in every game all season if it means we are top of the league. Agree promotion is the key. But if we carry over the level of management we are under now we're coming straight back down. CH isn't really manager material and he has the job due to the well documented mismanagement of the club by MA and for no other reason. I'll bet you anything, one way or another he won't be in charge by Christmas.

Out of all the teams in the chamionship, we have been least outplayed. Rubbish. Nearly every game we're consistently under pressure. I bet you can't name more than 2/3 games we've dominated or created loads of chances. Good luck.

We have been comprehensively outplayed at least a dozen times this season. Agree with jpd that is esentially the defence that has kept us top. The rest of it is a shambles.

It's one thing to suggest an alternative formation or tactics and put forward an argument for why it would be better, it's quite another to say Hughton is the worst tactician to have ever managed a football team for not implementing your hair brained scheme in every game. The main aim of the thread is a credible one ie he isn't good enough for the rigours of the PL. Get of yer high horse. He might know more about the players than we do, but he certainly doesn't exhibit the ability to change or be flexible. Balls pumped down the middle is bollox end of.

Many on here didn't trust Hughton with CCC campaign yet it is undeniable that we are top of the league and looking well set for promotion. Although no one is happy with the football so far, what if he is able to do the same in the EPL and get us right up there with the big guns? I think he has earned his chance. [i also think he is the sort of bloke who will walk away for the benefit of the club if he cannot get it right in the EPL, but that is just my personal opinion] I think the consensus is that we are top despite him due to the fact we have 3/4 players who are too good for this league.

Seems to really only understand plan A. As I've always believed good managers are born not taught.

People have really picked up on this deluded thing. It was just a light hearted post fellas....

What's wrong with him as a person? Comes across as a modest, honest person who wants the best for the club and players. Doesn't delude or think highly of himself like his most obvious comparison (Roeder). If you're modest, honest and not deluded you're basically not manager material.

You think he can cut it as a PL manager? Yes he can cut in PL ..... Even if he doesn't he deserve the chance after what he have done this year.... why ppl forget how he fix everything this season is beyond my imagination. Pl survival isn't about ramanticism or loalty, it's about getting the best poss people in every role we can manage. Sorry. He's done alright in difficult conditions, but IMO he should go back as coach as soon as we get up, the quicker the better. I'd like a new manager in by the summer to start getting things right from the start.

You think he can cut it as a PL manager?

Er no. The team is winning in spite of Hughton is more accurate.... Correcto.