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They're getting in the way of my 'serious' threads I tell you!! blueyes.gif

2 isn't it? 3 mong.

Can someone merge all these fucking new kit threads?

Sorry Indi but that's fantasy land stuff.

Perhaps all PL clubs should have a basic wage budget that they all have to stick to. Another way of levelling the playing field perhaps.

I have also been tinkering with the idea of a two legged play off between 4th and 5th.

What's the answer though? A Super Euro League of sorts? Reduce the size of the CL? Revenue sharing? Something needs to be done, that's for sure. Buying power would be severely curtailed if THE THREE FOREIGN PLAYERS RULE was brought back in. That would be my first step. My second suggestion would be that the PLAYER has to stay with the club that developed him till he was 23. That would cut out a lot of this snaffling up young talent.

Do you now?

So? No one on this message board is a professional footballer but I don't see how that stops us from having opinions Newcastle players. We don't run multi-million pound businesses so we can't comment. Ridiculous? You said it. Koven and his Amazon analogy...

It now seems year in year out those 'big 4' clubs (we used to be in there once) have got a stranglehold on the CL places. The continued momentum of rollover qualification is widening their financial muscle as compared to the rest of the Premier League. Clubs like Man U have netted £100m or so over the last 8/10 years of the competition and in other countries Bayern Munich have netter £116m over the last decade and this is just the TV money, another £15-20m can be added over this period for bigger sponsorship and branding deals. If the now fast becoming obvious second tier of the PL clubs like Everton (one qualification in recent times), Newcastle, Spurs and perhaps recently Bolton cannot get into the top 4 the fianancial gap and abitlity to compete for players widens....Is it becoming truer now more than ever that only 4 sides have the chance of winning the Premier League?

Are you a professional footballer? No? In that case please refrain from commenting on whether anyone was ever 'rubbish' etc. He is wrong, I run a business of 70 million sterling. yeah but I bet its not a football club, so you still aren't allowed to comment Meh, I'm the only one on here qualified to comment on football club finances. But I cant be bothere most of the time Well stop winding us up with your supposed knowledge and do one.

Good point. Also I think the clubs who have managed to stay on the CL train have secured huge financial advantages over the rest of us. It is almost a story of how the CL has destroyed the competitive nature of the national game.

The thing is Alex dividends are a good thing, but imo we have regularly paid too high dividends. This has stopped recently as FS and to his credit can't justify dividends due to poor financial performance. The summer of 2003 is where it is at yes. Wasn't it the summer of 69? Wat it Bobby Joe or Mary Sue?

The thing is Alex dividends are a good thing, but imo we have regularly paid too high dividends. This has stopped recently as FS and to his credit can't justify dividends due to poor financial performance. The summer of 2003 is where it is at yes.

Filthy bugger!

NE5 and HTL ?! Never seen them accused of that before

Just remind me are these the same angels who undermined and then sacked SBR?

Too many variables coach it's making me heed spin.

Yeah, cos speculate to accumulate doesn't apply to any other industry apart from online bookstores... What an incredibly naive outlook on business. Mate, there are fundamentals in business that apply to almost all sectors. Hence why there is books about business in general and not "a book on how to run an online bookstore". Why don't you tell me about those fundamentals from your books, I'm all ears. I don't understand. What do you think they teach in business school? On on business degrees? There are general business practices that apply to nearly all businesses. One being you can't not spend money and expect to be successful. Is it a coincidence that the most financially successful football clubs are also the most successful? People are reading way too much into the Amazon thing. The point was that Amazon spent millions of pounds even when they were making a loss because they were confident in their business model that that investment would pay off. Arguably, the football industry is a lot safer. Amazon were on unknown territory with similar dot.com businesses failing every day. It's no secret in the football business than if you spend money, wisely, on good players you will be more successful in the league. Chelsea is an extreme example of this. And with that success comes a lot more money. Quoting Amazon's turnover and profit is neither here nor there because that isn't the comparison I was making. NUFC is stuck in Newcastle and has a limit on it's success. Amazon has the whole world as a market. We don't. Yes that's what I meant by 'blue sky business'. See you learn summat everyday.

Yeah, cos speculate to accumulate doesn't apply to any other industry apart from online bookstores... What an incredibly naive outlook on business. Mate, there are fundamentals in business that apply to almost all sectors. Hence why there is books about business in general and not "a book on how to run an online bookstore". There are dozens of links to the 'amazon model'...I do take your broader point. Altough where the analogy fails for me is that football isn't in real terms a blue sky business...Newcastle will never be worth a billion pounds regardless of brand development. Football in the last decade has grown in financial terms PRIMARILY due to TV money. You're not comparing us to this surely: Financials Sales: $10.71 bil Profits: $190.00 mil Assets: $4.36 bil Employees: 13,900

He had shown some ability previously though, in winning the SPL and Uefa Cup Winners Cup with Aberdeen. Koven, I swear your working in some capacity for the club .....Why not tell people why ManU persevered with Fergy: 1980:First managerial honour when Aberdeen win Scottish championship. 1982:Aberdeen win the Scottish Cup beating Rangers 4-1. 1983:Aberdeen retain Scottish Cup this time beating Rangers 1-0 and defeating Real Madrid 2-1 in Gothenburg to lift European Cup Winners'Cup. 1984:Aberdeen win League and Cup double beating Celtic 2-1 in theCup final. Ferguson awarded OBE. With Aberdeen ffs!! Now compare that to GR's record will you? Will you!!??

Suzao?

You believed him too, didn't you? He said all that about last summer, but he also wasted 80% of the transfer window by saying we wouldn't be looking until after the World Cup (bearing in mind the season started not too long after it finished), then traipsing around Europe watching Kuyt play. Remember "pole position"? Remember "4 or 5 players through the door" in January? Then all of a sudden the squad is good enough to get us through to the summer. He's clueless. He'll do the same again this summer because he doesn't know what he's doing. What's the point in giving him a load of cash to spend this summer if he's only seeing his contract out for one season? Get shot. This.

You fancy a bit of Crouchie Halex or what? Dunno really. I think he's a canny player. Not great but canny. He's not particularly athletic though, in terms of his aerial ability or his movement and he has no pace either. Not sure we would play to his strengths either - humping the ball up to him most likely. He'd cost a lot too. I think he has a better attitude than the likes of Viduka and Anelka (who would be better bets in other respects for me). Going on from your thoughts...His lack of pace and movement are the key minuses.

You fancy a bit of Crouchie Halex or what?