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Seeing as youse lot have finally achieved the ultimate enlightenment in realising that Rafa is the one true god above all others, could some mod/admin see their way to going over to the "Parky vs [LFC manager here]" thread and retroactively awarding our lot the additional billion points we clearly should have had from said deity's tenure at our place?

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Fuck off. That's why he signed in the first place. NUFC is a Real Club. He knew that.

I've always thought that of ManU. BVB gifted us the game tonight. You let in three at home, you should be out. Especially when you're 0-2 down before wacko's even got to the pub. I've got a class at 7.30 in the morning with a massive Dortmund fan (he lives within spitting distance of the stadium). It's casual Friday, and I can't decide if I should wear a Liverpool top. Probably shouldn't because he's ten times the fan I am, but that whole place is crawling with BVB fuckers, and it's my moral obligation as a former resident of Gelsenkirchen* to rub the filthy Dortmunders' noses in it. Scheissborussen. *And Hull, mate. Get a fucking grip. Slight adjustment. You'll have to explain that one to me.

Asking Klopp if his half time team talk "only included one word: Istanbul" What a fucking cringe. Hire me for millions a year. I can say, "Istanbul" with the best of them.

I've always thought that of ManU. BVB gifted us the game tonight. You let in three at home, you should be out. Especially when you're 0-2 down before wacko's even got to the pub. I've got a class at 7.30 in the morning with a massive Dortmund fan (he lives within spitting distance of the stadium). It's casual Friday, and I can't decide if I should wear a Liverpool top. Probably shouldn't because he's ten times the fan I am, but that whole place is crawling with BVB fuckers, and it's my moral obligation as a former resident of Gelsenkirchen to rub the filthy Dortmunders' noses in it. Scheissborussen.

I reckon Rafa would stay. Like I said before, I think NUFC is a very appealing club to him (by which I mean the fans). The major issue, as I see it, is that he doesn't suffer fools gladly. So a falling-out with Ashley is probably inevitable…

Nah Still the best, tho.

There is a kernel of something in there. Rafa could destroy Barca or Real Madrid in detail, but he never got the hang of playing against Bolton…

OTOH, they might have felt the get-out clause would be necessary to get him in the first place. It's not like Rafa would have said, "nah, we don't need that." He's not an idiot. Like I said, it will in no way affect his work for the club. Flexible employment terms > inflexible employment terms.

That's exactly the way I see it. He left Valencia because he was frustrated at the lack of control over signings. He said at Liverpool that the money isn't important (he's already rich and being even richer is not a motivator for him). I'm sure he joined NUFC because of the fans. The passion. Rafa doesn't give a fuck. The only thing Rafa gives is absolutely everything he has. He doesn't know any other way. He sees that NUFC fans are the same. I've always considered LFC and NUFC to be very similar in that regard (though I expect to get shat on for saying that here). The big difference is that, with the exception of those American parasites, we've had better luck with the owners. Not exceptional by any means, but at least benign and they tend to take a long-term view. My take on NUFC (from outside) is that pretty much all the problems the club has and has had are, and always have been as far back as I can remember, caused by the top-shelf bellends that have owned and controlled the club. The reaction to Rafa's signing has absolutely floored me. Previously, I always thought you didn't think much of the fella. That he was just more grist for Parky's wheel. I don't know whether Rafa will fuck off if, invisible man in the sky forbid, NUFC goes down. But that's not his way. The get-out clause absolutely came from the club. Whether the motivation for having the clause was to attract a top-notch manager in the first place (and give him a way out) or to get his salary off the books in case the worst happens, I cannot say. But I can promise you, absolutely, Rafa does not give a fuck about it. You're his club now. You get everything he has to give till the day he leaves.

I hole-hardedly agree, but allow me to play doubles advocate here for a moment. For all intensive purposes I think you are wrong. In an age where false morals are a diamond dozen, true virtues are a blessing in the skies. We often put our false morality on a petal stool like a bunch of pre-Madonnas, but you all seem to be taking something very valuable for granite. So I ask of you to mustard up all the strength you can because it is a doggy dog world out there. Although there is some merit to what you are saying it seems like you have a huge ship on your shoulder. In your argument you seem to throw everything in but the kids Nsync, and even though you are having a feel day with this I am here to bring you back into reality. I have a sick sense when it comes to these types of things. It is almost spooky, because I cannot turn a blonde eye to these glaring flaws in your rhetoric. I have zero taller ants when it comes to people spouting out hate in the name of moral righteousness. You just need to remember what comes around is all around, and when supply and command fails you will be the first to go. Make my words, when you get down to brass stacks it doesn't take rocket appliances to get two birds stoned at once. It's clear who makes the pants in this relationship, and sometimes you just have to swallow your prize and accept the facts. You might have to come to this conclusion through denial and error but I swear on my mother's mating name that when you put the petal to the medal you will pass with flying carpets like it’s a peach of cake. Sauce.

Doubt it, seeing as the usual phrase is "rearranging the deckchairs…" and the one on here was the metaphorically-confused "shuffling the deckchairs…".

Could be. I haven't followed Rafa closely since he left LFC, but he was always a sucker (to the point of fault) for player rotation when he was with us. He rarely played the same side two games in a row, and we had a fair amount of shite in the squad.

I really hope it works out for Rafa and NUFC (by which I suppose I mean I hope Ashley doesn't do something demented. No flies on Rafa). But if I'm honest, it's mostly because I'm really enjoying reading all the Rafa love-in posts. Youse fuckers finally got a clue

Also, there's something about "Rafa Benitez" in a Scouse accent.

I dunno about the "rightly", but the contempt is readily apparent. All the same, I find it highly amusing that the entire forum has suddenly come around to my way of thinking

Bloody hell, how the Benitez rhetoric on here has changed since he was our manager

This Moncur fella sounds like he has special needs.

Rafa slagging off the (shitty) owners in public is what led to his leaving LFC. Might not get on like a house on fire with Ashley. OTOH, he did work for that Perez maniac at Real Madrid.

Set us back a fucking decade did those bastards

I think it's cos he does a lot of game-specific preparation (certainly he does for important games). Not a whole lot of benefit for the kids in preparing for games they ain't going to be playing in.

15 must be Schalke? Yup. http://bilder.hifi-forum.de/max/288384/raul-s04-logo-5x4-diashow_133635.jpg