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Jesus christ!!! It can't be that straight forward? Even by Ashley/Charnley standards that is poor. I refuse to believe that it is intentional. The intent from Newcastle side has to have been that a new 3 year term is to be automatically renewed after a 3 year period has been completed, but rather that Charnley have put forward or accepted bad wording to the contract that is not clear and open for opportunistic interpretation which is now the dispute....surely? Purely speculation from my side, but is it fair to assume that Newcastle ownership feels we have a case for terminating the contract and paying out compensation for remainder of this season, while Bruce feels he has a case for demanding that they compensate for a full term, and that we have offered him a compromise to get it settled sooner rather than later? This certainly alters my view and feeling towards the new owners as to why he isn't gone yet.

Can anyone explain in simpleton terms what this means/how the contract works? Normally when I hear "rolling contract" I associate that with easier and cheaper to terminate. I know the Athletic put out an article back in July which apparently gives some clarity on it, but at that time I didn't really care if he was here for another season or 10 as long as Ashley owned us so didn't really pay attention to what was said on here.

I'll believe that then, as it makes the reasoning for keeping him on easier to swallow if nothing else

Is there something I've missed? I've asked in this thread previously without any source or reference being given. I see many others using this argument too but where do the notion that all first team coaching staff will leave if they sack Bruce come from? If Bruce had another job lined up I could see the risk that he might bring them with him, but there's no incentive for them to leave now if he got sacked. Maybe if they were honorable and loyal Bruce fans and decided to leave in solidarity (which I strongly doubt as they would most likely miss out on compensation). There's no indication that they are a package deal.

Probably not, but it sure as hell isn't an indication that gives any confidence that they will make timely, important decisions in the future. Yeah the sale happend quickly in a sense, but they've been planning the acquisition and monitoring the club for at least 2 years, Stavely for 4. They know how Bruce has performed, they know what the fans think of him, they still have Charnley and an HR department available to sort the administrative/formalities to get him out.

I got a quite detailed response this morning on the e-mail I sent last night from the vice chair. I don't feel comfortable sharing the response without consent, but can ask if he is ok with me sharing it. If not, it actually do seem like e-mailing them directly instead of communicating via social media will get you a better explanation than what you get in 2-3 short lines via twitter, so would advise you to do so. That being said, it doesn't seem like they are entertaining the idea to change the decision to co-opt Alex and they are acting within the NUST rules (ref. rule 63) https://nufctrust.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/NUST-Rules.pdf

Assuming we're talking about the same situation it looked like something out of a Beardsley highlight clip. Was amazing.

So we buy Haaland first, then Isak, Mæhle & Bjørkan and become the English vikings?

Rival clubs are angered around the increased competition for top-four spots Love it when they are angry, for the wrong reasons, especially since they were seemingly very much involved in blocking the takeover last year Fuck'em to hell

They say he is co-opted, but if he never really left as they say, he wouldn't really be co-opted would he? Co-opted if my google is strong enough is when "people who are chosen by the appropriate body to represent a specific area of interest or issue of consideration. These representatives are not elected members of the Council, and are appointed because of their level of knowledge and experience, such as headteachers, diocesan representatives."

Isn't that more common when the clubs have someone else lined up that wants to bring in their own coaching staff? Can't remember entire coaching staffs ever dissapearing along with the manager when clubs have sacked a manager and temporarily installs a caretaker.

Well that was a short lived positive experience Since they just ask you to e-mail them any concerns, would anyone with a bit more eloquent English than myself maybe be interested in drafting a mail concerned NUST members can e-mail to them about this self re-instated hog?

Where have you got this weird idea that coaching staff dissapears if they terminate Bruce's contract? Day before (?) takeover was announced, NUST published a poll that got national media coverage where 95% of fans said Steve Bruce should walk away from his post in the best interests of the club. Easiest decision ever for new owners.

Pretty sure firing someone on a contract is similar no matter what line of business you're dealing in.

Never said they should, and also said I think it'll be done before spurs.

Harsh. I'd take many other reasons for why I'm not suited for that role, but to claim I'm unable to contact HR and ask them to initiate work to terminate a contract and sign the paperwork once it's done is a bit ott.

I'd assume every coach hired by the club has a contract with the club, and not Steve Bruce. Are they afraid that his team will leave as well in solidarity if he is fired, or that Bruce will immediately get a new gig and bring them with him? I just can't fathom what the challenges are.

Chief executives and chairmen choked on their cappuccinos in board meetings as their phones pinged with emails from the league at 5.18pm informing them of the decision. Some had already seen the news on push notifications as it broke online. Why had they not heard about this in advance? was a complaint levelled at Premier League chief executive Richard Masters. Why had it not been discussed in the recent rights-holders meeting not long before? Why had many learned about it via the media, like the rest of football’s common folk?

Didn't know that was possible. Changed from yes to no now

We know our current defenders can defend with the right system & tactics in place, and we have decent cover in the event of injuries. We know we don't have any adequate strikers except Wilson, and we know Wilson is injury prone. Striker for me is first priority.

Ye..I should I realize it comes off very wrong. They haven't really made any mistakes so far, and I do have faith that they will make the right decision here so for the time being it really is a non-issue.

14 years of Ashley is the exact reason why I won't blindly trust they have the best of intentions and do things the right way. They need to prove it to us. I was too naive for too long with Ashley. Won't make that mistake again Whether they sack Bruce, put him on garden leave, simply ask him not to attend the game while assessing his situation/contract whatever - just do something to show us they understand and that they are able to make important decisions.

If they are so inept that they cannot do the bare minimum, the one single action that makes sense on all levels, why should they deserve any goodwill? It's not like it's something that cannot be changed in time by making good, timely decisions going forward (and tbf, there's still time to do it, and I am hopeful and confident that he will be gone). Contrary to Ashley, if they mess something up, we can still hope that they learn from mistakes rather than bookmarking them for eternal re-use.

Feet under or over their desks, this is not in any way a tough or difficult decision to make. Whether they are "nice" people or not is for them to prove through their actions. Most, if not everyone, liked Ashley in the beginning too. My confidence in them will be non-existent if they don't bin Bruce before the Spurs match. It's a bad decision from a sporting perspective which will impact the commercial side long term if we don't get any points against spurs and it will immediately sour the relationship they have started building with the fans.

Big name and out of a job and applying logic to have something to write about. Wouldn't be surprised if he ended up on a list of potential targets, but would be surprised if he became an actual target.