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Hmmmm ... this better not be the Wow! signing 

We could pay two very good players salaries with that money.

Our recruitment team could easily find a player that would replace Owen if we cut him loose. I have faith in them. Owen just doesn't deserve this money.

Brummie I agree with what you say about footballers salaries as it really is out of control. However, in Lampards case he has at least been very productive for Chelsea.

Offering Owen such a deal is definitely insane though.

---------------Given--------------

Beye--Taylor-----Colo--Atouba(?)

-----Barton--Tiago--Jonas-----

--------------Saviola--------------

---------Owen---Martins--------

Let's face it the links have dried up apart from the Saviola one.  It's ok for us to speculate but I'd expect the next signing to be out of the blue completely or someone we were linked with several months back.  The journos know as much as less than  us.

Yeah, your probably right, but it's interesting to just discuss some of these options.

Atouba is an international for Cameroon, has prem experience, is a good age at 26 and is apparently available as he is in his last year of his contact. Geremi can also offer some insight into the player. It seems a likely option I think.

Atouba linked yesterday. I would be pleased. Seen him a fair bit recently for Cameroon.

Very good attacking left back who is 6 ft 3 and has tons of energy, pace and power. strong in the tackle.

He loves to dribble the ball and will leave you with your heart in your mouth when he dribbles out of defence sometimes, but he is so strong he never gets pushed off the ball. Very entertaining some of his crazy runs from the back. Watch some of his videos.

There is a misconception he failed at Spurs but he never really got a run and he was much younger then. He is now 26 which is a good age.

In the final year of his contract too so very affordable. Another bargain.

Diamond will never work i'm afraid, which is what that formation looks like. This perhaps;

 

 

     Guthrie         Butt          Jonas

 

                        Saviola

        Owen                       Martins

      

Yeah, that would work. More of a 4-3-1-2. Tiago instead of Butt though.

I think with Saviola, Owen and Martins upfront, it will be vital that everyone in our midfield is capable of passing the football.

Home games:

 

                                    

 

Beye   Taylor  Coloccini    Zoggy

                  

                    Guthrie

Jonas                                 Duff

                    Saviola

           Owen            Martins    

 

 

 

Would rather see:

 

Given               

 

Beye   Taylor  Coloccini    Taiwo

                   

                      Tiago

Guthrie                               Jonas

                    Saviola

           Owen            Martins     

 

If rumours are true and we are after Tiago and Saviola on loan then the above formation would be well worth a go, we can then sign them permanently next summer if it works out well.

 

The passing amongst our midfield and strikers would be phenomenal.

 

 

That's quite a sexy team except I'm not sure who's gonna be holding the ball up, up front.

With a front six that can pass the ball so well I would hope for a more pass and move game of football.

We had Oba as a lone striker yesterday but yet we still looked okay. I think it could work.

Home games:

 

                                    

 

Beye   Taylor  Coloccini    Zoggy

                  

                    Guthrie

Jonas                                 Duff

                    Saviola

           Owen            Martins    

 

 

Would rather see:

Given               

Beye   Taylor  Coloccini    Taiwo

                      Tiago

Guthrie                               Jonas

                    Saviola

           Owen            Martins     

If rumours are true and we are after Tiago and Saviola on loan then the above formation would be well worth a go, we can then sign them permanently next summer if it works out well.

The passing amongst our midfield and strikers would be phenomenal.

Tbf, Kaka's posts are nearly always OTT rubbish.

 

Nearly he says.

Whatever dude.

Zoggy at left back wasn't as much of a problem today, because of how well Jonas tracks back to assist him.

 

I hear what your saying about extremes, but Jonas' debut today was phenomenal. To play like that your first game in the prem and away to Man U was nuts.

 

Do you not feel that all of our new signings should be so committed and fired-up when making their debuts..?

 

Our previous signings may have lowered debut expectations somewhat...when was the last time we were 'impressed' by a player on his debut? Owen...not really, Barton...injured, Beye...quiet, Enrique...overweight, Viduka...overweight?, Smith...booked, Luque...injured, etc

That was why it was so brilliant. It wasn't just his commitment but his ability also! He was electric.

I loved the instance where Rooney tried to chase him down and he just blew past him with some brilliant footwork and change of pace. It's been a while since we had the pleasure of witnessing such ability in our team and I can understand why people are so excited.

The point with Nicky Butt is that these poor performances are becoming looking more and more frequent, he is highlighted because we all see an urgent need to replace him.

TBF Nicky Butt was insanely bad today.

I'll forgive him the odd misplaced pass, but the way he kept getting caught on the ball was crazy. He was totally unaware of anything going on around him. He was so slow and laboured. I think people have every right to be worried about it.

What was even funnirer was Andy Gray's reaction to Jonas.

He couldn't quite believe it. He was trying to figure out who the guy was. Just because we didn't spend a bunch of money on him, it complpetely caught everyone off guard.

Special mention for Guthrie too. Huge calming presence for us. His awareness and footballing brain are top notch.

Zoggy at left back wasn't as much of a problem today, because of how well Jonas tracks back to assist him.

I hear what your saying about extremes, but Jonas' debut today was phenomenal. To play like that your first game in the prem and away to Man U was nuts.

Wow, a bit of an over reaction on our result tbh. Some people are getting a bit over excited.

 

This shambles of a performance will probably see Ramos buy a cb, some strikers and maybe even a dm. I would be worried if the transfer window was closed but it's far from closed, so we'll just see who we get in.

 

 

Yeah, okay.

 

I'm sure you would have been as mellow as you are now if you had won 3 - 0.

 

Go read my previous posts, I knew this would happen. Your midfield was parting like the red sea. You lot are in a hell of a mess right now.

 

The window is fast closing now, so it's going to be a lot of hardwork getting in players now if you aren't already close to tying them up.

 

f***ing hell, did you ejaculate when Mido scored?

 

Do you think the 'doom and gloom' story you've just painted, has any effect on me?. Im pretty sure we'll bring in a few new faces AND im pretty sure we'll improve on this s*** result.

 

It's all about getting the balance right. Ramos tried a system today that in hindsight was wrong. Lennon should not have played, Bale should, berbatov should have started, Bentley should have played on the right.

 

Woodgate was very good but he was more or less defending on his own.

 

 

Don't be mad at me buddy. I'm stating facts here. Cold, hard facts. The same ones I've been stating all summer.

 

A lot of people on here claimed it was sour grapes and so I am happy they have been made to look quite silly.

 

We're talking about Boro here! You didn't even compete hardly.

 

All talk all the time. Can't do the business on the field though. You've started the season off terribly. Fact. Just like last year. Boro!

 

If you can't take the heat then roll out son!

 

 

Mad at you? i dont get mad at people who get excited and claim they've been proven right, after the opening game of the season.

 

Facts? Ok lets look at facts for a minute. Our best defence, when available is..

 

Hutton------------woody-------------king---------------bale

 

how many of them started?? 1

 

 

Im pretty sure any team would have struggled without 3 of the 4 first x1 defenders. Not to mention Berbatov not starting.

So why didn't he start King and Bale then?

Seems to me like you've got a dodgy manager, which is yet another problem you need to fix then.

Berbatov doesn't want to play for you, thats why he didn't start. Should have sorted this all out ages ago, and just sold him. Now Man U are looking at Santa Cruz, if they gethim instead, Berba will be  even worse. Good luck.

Not looking good.

Wow, a bit of an over reaction on our result tbh. Some people are getting a bit over excited.

 

This shambles of a performance will probably see Ramos buy a cb, some strikers and maybe even a dm. I would be worried if the transfer window was closed but it's far from closed, so we'll just see who we get in.

 

 

Yeah, okay.

 

I'm sure you would have been as mellow as you are now if you had won 3 - 0.

 

Go read my previous posts, I knew this would happen. Your midfield was parting like the red sea. You lot are in a hell of a mess right now.

 

The window is fast closing now, so it's going to be a lot of hardwork getting in players now if you aren't already close to tying them up.

 

f***ing hell, did you ejaculate when Mido scored?

 

Do you think the 'doom and gloom' story you've just painted, has any effect on me?. Im pretty sure we'll bring in a few new faces AND im pretty sure we'll improve on this s*** result.

 

It's all about getting the balance right. Ramos tried a system today that in hindsight was wrong. Lennon should not have played, Bale should, berbatov should have started, Bentley should have played on the right.

 

Woodgate was very good but he was more or less defending on his own.

 

So basically your manager's s*** and you still need to sign the same players you needed at the start of the summer?

Ramos still "trying systems" at this stage? He must be shite.

Huge implications that Man U might opt for Santa Cruz instead! Oh dear. Berba will just love that!

DISASTER!!!

Wow, a bit of an over reaction on our result tbh. Some people are getting a bit over excited.

 

This shambles of a performance will probably see Ramos buy a cb, some strikers and maybe even a dm. I would be worried if the transfer window was closed but it's far from closed, so we'll just see who we get in.

 

 

Yeah, okay.

 

I'm sure you would have been as mellow as you are now if you had won 3 - 0.

 

Go read my previous posts, I knew this would happen. Your midfield was parting like the red sea. You lot are in a hell of a mess right now.

 

The window is fast closing now, so it's going to be a lot of hardwork getting in players now if you aren't already close to tying them up.

 

f***ing hell, did you ejaculate when Mido scored?

 

Do you think the 'doom and gloom' story you've just painted, has any effect on me?. Im pretty sure we'll bring in a few new faces AND im pretty sure we'll improve on this s*** result.

 

It's all about getting the balance right. Ramos tried a system today that in hindsight was wrong. Lennon should not have played, Bale should, berbatov should have started, Bentley should have played on the right.

 

Woodgate was very good but he was more or less defending on his own.

Don't be mad at me buddy. I'm stating facts here. Cold, hard facts. The same ones I've been stating all summer.

A lot of people on here claimed it was sour grapes and so I am happy they have been made to look quite silly.

We're talking about Boro here! You didn't even compete hardly.

All talk all the time. Can't do the business on the field though. You've started the season off terribly. Fact. Just like last year. Boro!

If you can't take the heat then roll out son!

Wow, a bit of an over reaction on our result tbh. Some people are getting a bit over excited.

 

This shambles of a performance will probably see Ramos buy a cb, some strikers and maybe even a dm. I would be worried if the transfer window was closed but it's far from closed, so we'll just see who we get in.

 

Yeah, okay.

I'm sure you would have been as mellow as you are now if you had won 3 - 0.

Go read my previous posts, I knew this would happen. Your midfield was parting like the red sea. You lot are in a hell of a mess right now.

The window is fast closing now, so it's going to be a lot of hardwork getting in players now if you aren't already close to tying them up.

Hes a Owen without injuries in a way, why not?

 

he moved to Real on a free so I`d imagine his wages are not far off Owen`s too

Don't be daft. He was brought in as a squad player. His wages will not be high.

Robinho is on £30,000 a week for goodness sake.

How can I begin to express the immense joy I feel right now?

Whenever I tried to say how Tottenham was soft a lot of people said it was sour grapes.

Same old mess from a soft and gutless team.

Where are all the Tottenham groupies now?

Not writing them off completely but it is going to take a hell of a lot more work than those idiots think it will.

Was good, not the same player no thanks.

Begging for a nice fat Omelette on your face tbh ...

I can't believe think Saviola can't play in the hole and think the extent of his game is palying on the shoulder.

He is ridiculous running at people and loves to play the little through balls and one twos. He has a lot more to his game than just playing on the shoulder of defenders.

What we will need alongside a front three of Martins, Owen and Saviola will be a really hard working midfield. Jonas ticks that box and Barton also. If we could get a really top DM to play with both Jonas and Barton that would be sick.

Dunno why everyone's so obsessed with getting a big guy btw. Sure it's nice to have a mix up front but with Keegan we're trying to play football on the deck a bit more aren't we?

 

bit of both would be nice i think, you dont wanna only have one way of playing imo

 

Owen's good in the air and has a knack of getting on the end of crosses despite his size. Martins has a great leap too. I just don't know why anyone would turn their noses up at a footballer like Saviola just because he's not that tall.

Agreed.

At the end of the day we still have Viduka as an alternative if we need to change things.

However, keeping it on the deck and having a forward three of Martins, Owen and Saviola would be immense.

Martins power, pace and athleticism, Owen's smarts, positioning and finishing and Saviola's dribbling, passingg and finishing.

In games where the ball isn't quite sticking upfront enough and we are struggling physically, then just bring on Viduka.

Sorted.

Great move. Only 26 years old and is ridiculously experienced.

If we were after Aimar then Saviola would be a great alternative.

Like Dave said, would be excellent in the hole, just behind Owen and Martins, in our 4-3-1-2.

Best of all is that if Owen is out, with Saviola we wouldn't really miss him as much. He is as good a finisher for sure.

Likely to be Nicky Butt, but your'e right should be Habib.

---------------Given-----------------

Beye---Taylor---Colo---Warnock

----Barton---Tiago---Jonas-------

---------------Owen-----------------

--------Viduka----Martins----------

Assuming we land Tiago and Warnock of course.

I think this would really allow us to have a quality passing midfielder, in Tiago, dictate our play from the back, as a holding playmaker like Pirlo. Tiago will also be very well supported defensively by Barton and Jonas who definitely do their bit defensively, similarly to Seedorf and Gattuso. It's the AC Milan model really.

In the meantime, while both Barton and Viduka get their lives together, Guthrie could fill in nicely in Bartons spot, while Smith (sigh) can try to figure out this striking thing in place of Viduka, or just stay out of Martins and Owen's way.

Hope Marouane Chamakh is the next one in.

Weren't there reports in france a while back saying we'd signed him or somthing.

 

That's correct. He has been very promising lately, and is exactly what we need. A young, tall, technical targetman with pace.

 

with a goal to games  record almost identical to Shola

 

Think somebody's been watching to many tube clips, don't you?

 

What's that supposed to mean? Have watched Chamakh several times since last year, and the reason why his scoring record is poor is because he holds up the play so players like Gouffran, Wendel and Cavenaghi can score. You can compare Newcastle's attacking style to Bordeaux's, and it is quite similar. Pacey players like Gouffran and Wendel (Owen and Martins in our team) need a player who can hold the ball. Chamakh is used to play the same role Viduka plays for us, and that's the reason why I think he could be a great buy for us.

 

Yeah, I've heard similarly good things about Chamakh, apparently gets a lot of assists. More of a setup guy than an out and out goalscorer.

I'm afraid it will only ever be likely if we move on both Ameobi and Smith.