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6 minutes ago, Jimburst said:

Almiron looking confident

Really like him in one of the number 8 slots like he's playing today.

Can 't believe they still haven't sorted this out ...

45 minutes ago, Paullow said:

Perhaps, but crucially (for me, anyway) I'm not as confident we'll get them in now, and preferably they would have been in before Forest, whereas I was proper buzzing just after the Burnley match and really excited for the summer ahead, and try and differentiate ourselves from some of the middle pack clubs.

 

Even if we didn't have much chance of getting him, I was expecting stuff like 'Newcastle's new owners have identified Saka as their ideal (marquee) signing, and will go all out to get their man'.  I was hoping for a couple of Bruno type signings, players I'd never heard of, but 23/24 y/o playing in a decent league, 30/40m, possibly dropping down a level, and be seen generally as a real coup, and a statement. The likes of Harrison, Cornet etc. aren't much better than we have, and could be linked with any club from 10-14 or so in the table. 

 

Time will tell I guess, but the optimism is definitely a lot lower than it was for me, and I don't think it's wrong, or demanding, to have expected far more at this stage, especially from such a significant and controversial ownership taking over.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Saka ... that's wild man

The fact you actually think that the likes of Harrison and Cornet aren't much better than what we have in the wide positions just means you don't really know much about either of those players at all in reality.

Like a lot of fans I noticed they're not really interested in how good a player is, but moreso the excitement and buzz of a name they're completely unfamiliar with that comes with a big fee attached. That is what makes them get excited about a player. I see this a lot and I find it so strange.

1 minute ago, SUPERTOON said:

Not disagreeing on that, just think if we took an extra 5 weeks to get in real top class quality then it’s better than having the likes of  Cornet in right now.

 

 

 

That right winger slot is tricky. Especially, as we appear to be leaning towards having a left footer in that slot.

There aren't many Bruno level players that we can go for there. Diaby was the clear one, but it didn't work out, mostly due to Leverkusen making the Champions League IMO.

I'll say it again though, if it is Cornet he will surprise people a lot. He's shown the ability at Champions League level in that position. He's also still just 25 years old. But the real beauty of the situation would be that due to the low release clause, we could still look at going back in for Diaby next summer as we wouldn't have broken the bank for Cornet, unlike paying £35 million odd for Harrison for example.

4 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

Cornet's a weird one because I think if he was coming directly from Lyon without Burnley somehow having been inbetween, everyone would be pretty happy with that. 

 

Cornet's in the Sarr and Harrison category for me. Not at the level we originally were looking at, but a step down that will still likely improve us significantly enough that it'll make a difference. 

He's a very good player that still managed to shine in that atrocious Burnley team.

He played regularly for a Champions League Lyon team and always performed well, and his numbers from that right side when in France are excellent.

The Burnley whingeing is actually embarrassing, as he was only there for a year anyway.

32 minutes ago, gdm said:

Scraping the barrel with Cornet. Would be very underwhelmed if that was the big attacking winger we end up with. We are miles behind the top 6 and let’s be honest signing Cornet doesn’t close the gap very much if at all. 

Man, this just tells me you have seen nothing of Cornet at Lyon on that right hand side specifically. Both in Ligue 1 and in the Champions League (especially against Pep's Man City). Scraping the barrel?! Hell nah.

If we do get him, he will shock people with what he does playing on that right side. The guys career numbers on either wing are exceptional. He's 1 in 2 for goal contributions from either side.

24 minutes ago, Mazzy said:

Much easier for Seko to increase his value and more so put himself on the radar of bigger clubs because he's not played that many games considering he's 22. It was the same with Ekitike to some extent. One good season as a 18-23yr old can get you a big move, especially if it's one of your first playing in the top leagues.

 

Almiron on the other hand is much older and has played alot of games in the Premier League so him having a decent pre season does very little for anyone outside of us as Newcastle fans. 

 

 

Sesko is 19 years old, not 22.

Sesko wasn't a regular starter last season. It was Adeyemi and Okafor starting upfront.

That's why his numbers don't stand out. He's stepping into the starting lineup this season and it's going to be his year.

5 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Btw i prefered the leaky leaky approach.

 

This is desperate.

Yeah, this is pretty painful. It's incredibly quiet right now.

I'm bored ...

Was looking at some young strikers on the scoutedftbl website (which is really good), and I think the Hoffenheim striker, Georginio Rutter will be on our list. Same age as Ekitike, and also a well rounded forward that can also play on either wing. He's also two footed, with a slightly stronger left foot.

Looks like we were linked with him when he was leaving Rennes a couple of seasons back to join Hoffenheim. Same agency as Joelinton and we've done business with Hoffenheim fairly recently. Also the same agency as Draxler who we have been randomly linked with of late. Maybe we're looking at a different player under their books?

https://www.scoutedftbl.com/best-young-football-players/georginio-rutter/

On 27/07/2022 at 00:27, Dr Jinx said:

Nope, was scratching my head for a minute but then remembered a post about some young kids being brought out for the trip.

 

I suspect Dummett breaking down and the managers complete lack of trust in Lewis means he wanted to have a proper look at this kid.

 

He did well considering, looks pacy and confident on the ball. Few misplaced passes later on but we were under pressure at that point. Providing Targett can stay fit, this lad should be an able understudy. We do also have Dan Burn who can play that position so we should be ok there.

Lewis apparently looked great when he returned this summer and the staff were excited about him, but he got injured, and is just now working his way back to fitness. 

The manager does not have a complete lack of trust in him at all.

22 minutes ago, Conjo said:

~20m for McNeil is bonkers if true.  Still think he's a decent signing for them, and would probably have improved us as well, but surely there must be better out there for that price.

Young and English with any kind of potential is automatically £20 million minimum.

The only reason he's even gone for that is because they got relegated. If not Burnley would have been asking for more.

2 minutes ago, Comegetasample said:

 

Fully paid up member of the love island Fiat 500 mafia, though i have a sneaky suspicion she drives something much more expensive. 

Yup, pretty much.

5 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said:

 

https://www.instagram.com/naomidannnn/?hl=en

So basic.

There's always some tasty deals towards the end of the window. I feel like Spurs have typically been involved in loads of those.

From what I saw against Benfica, I think we can afford to be patient and wait till we get a bit further along towards the end of the window now, if it means we ultimately get higher quality players in.

4 minutes ago, leffe186 said:

Yeah I totally get that. On the one hand I like that this season feels unpredictable and that there are maybe more teams than ever challenging for top four or top six. That’s definitely good for football.

 

The problem is, my true wish is for Elite level football to be boring and predictable in that Spurs win everything.

Nothing is sweeter than winning a league or competition that is more competitive. Absolutely nothing better than that. 

3 hours ago, The College Dropout said:

PL fans.... have this weird relationship, almost crabs in a barrell like mentality. That we hope clubs that give it a go fail. If not us, I would love for Villa or Leicester or whoever to make that level up permanently. To show others that it can be done.

 

Some other fans are doing it with us. If it's for moral reasons I don't mind. But purely footballing reasons, isn't 7 teams that can really compete better than 6?

I'm with you on this. I want the whole league blown wide open, with competitive games for everyone week in and week out.

I think Chelsea are going to dip this season, as there is a whole lot going on over there at the minute. Liverpool might also do so too a bit, adjusting to the loss of Mane and getting Nunez acclimated. And although Haaland has joined Man City, I think they could even need to adjust as well, as they have lost their two most dynamic and direct wide players in Sterling and Jesus.

Going to be a heck of a season IMO.

1 hour ago, joeyt said:

Looks like McNeill to Everton is close to being completed

Good move for him. Frank is very attack minded, and is also decent with young players.

Looks like he'll get to play on the right side now too, as Gordon plays on the left.

He's going to do well there.

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Howe confirmed Shelvey’s issue after the game at the Estadio da Luz

 

“Jonjo, it looks like a hamstring problem,” the 45-year-old said. “I don’t know any more than that at the moment. Really disappointing, he’s worked so hard to keep himself fit and be in a good place physically. Any injury would be a blow to him and for us, so fingers crossed it’s not bad.

 

Looks like it was a hamstring injury rather than a knee, so good news in that respect, hopefully the hamstring injury isn't severe.

Was let down a few times by ASM tonight on that left side, who misplaced a number of passes to him when he was in some space, and could have had a chance to express himself. Tough to judge him on that game, as he didn't really get on the ball much.

26 minutes ago, Howeay said:

 

Opinions, he was at fault for a lot of goals last season, i just don't rate him.

 

 

21 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

 

I like him, but he made a few individual errors last season. I gave him a pass for Chelsea's goal as it was a sublime touch and finish, but he also came charging out of defence leading to the Everton winner. Happened a couple of other times too, but he got away with it.

 

I'm not taking away the immense amount of positives he brought, such a leadership, solidity and a bit of composure on the ball, but he does have a concentration issue.

He's a very aggressive defender, it's always easy to remember the few times it cost us, but no one is taking note of the numerous times he did the same thing and won or cleared the ball.

His defending won us far more points than it cost us. Weren't we one of the better defences in the league from January onwards? And he was clearly the main catalyst.

32 minutes ago, Dr Jinx said:

Enjoyed that! Was more like a Europa qualifier, their free kick, can’t complain, first goal, Lascelles.. just terrible positioning and mistiming the jump. Hopefully he won’t play much.

 

I think it’s going to be fair to say our strongest midfield will be Bruno, Joelinton and Shelvey but Willock looks sharp as well, ideally be great if someone else came in there to give us something different.

 

Almiron looks confident which bodes well but we need more down that side.

 

We need another striker, I think assuming Wilson will carry the burden could backfire massively.

 

Maxi had a better game for what we saw of him. He’s the strongest option at forward left we have. Anderson should be his backup there, whatever position he played at during the first half didn’t do him any favours but can obviously mix it at this level.

He was on his man. Trippier didn't mark his and he tried to come over to help. Come on man.

2 minutes ago, Howeay said:

Schar and Botman is quite good but Burn or Lascelles having to come in worries me, neither are good enough.

Chill man, we just played Benfica for goodness sake, and they're further along in their pre season.

Can't believe you're already throwing away everything Burn did second half of last season. Now he's not even good enough to be a sub for us? Wow.

We can't not ever concede a goal you know. Come on.

1 minute ago, TenkoDaLuz said:

 

What I meant is: he usually favors Benfica a lot in games that are worth nothing as a way of eliminating the idea that he hates Benfica. In important games he always pushes us behind as far as he can.

Ah, I see. Interesting. Sounds like he's a bit of a lunatic