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5 minutes ago, Ikon said:

 

 

Surely not. If so that's a good price. Can't see Monaco selling this cheap though. They are tough.

All the reports regarding a price from when Leicester have been linked are saying £20 million.

Apparently Monaco got a new manager in January, and he didn't use Diop as much as the previous manager, and so Monaco are open to a sale.

2 minutes ago, McCormick said:

Yep. Fantastic first touch and vision. Very classy player, good age and good work-rate; really does seem like someone Howe would love to work with. Good news for us is that he’s very under-appreciated/ underrated in France. We’ll still probably need to spend at least 30m to prise him away though. 

 

 

 

Leicester have been looking at him, but can't move for him without selling players first. The reports were that Monaco were looking for around £20 million from them.

We went up to £35 million for Diaby, so I don't think the price would be a problem. Both he and Diaby are 22 years old, and we seem happy to pay more for younger players. Think the reason we wouldn't go higher for Harrison is that he is 26 years old.

26 minutes ago, McCormick said:

Won’t come cheap though.

Apparently Monaco are looking for £20 million for him.

1 minute ago, McCormick said:

I think he’s really really good tbh; very clever little player. His only downside is he’s not as quick as you’d ideally want for a PL winger. Amazing work rate for a young “flair-player” too.

Ah, okay. Interesting.

I haven't actually seen him play, so was just looking through his statistical profile etc. and they all look very good. His dribbling and passing especially. Looks a really talented prospect.

Just been watching some of his videos to get a feel for how he plays and it looks like he doesn't hug the touchline like a traditional winger, but sits in narrower, which is what Howe wants from his wide men, with the full backs then providing the width, and so the electric pace shouldn't be an issue.

His passing really stands out from his clips, looks a classy player. 

27 minutes ago, McCormick said:

Linked with Sofiane Diop according to Media Foot. Really promising Monaco player and yep, you guessed it, a right-footed lw.

Taking into account his age and having looked into some of his stas breakdowns this one could be a goer for the right wing.

Looks like he's comfortable on either side, but in fact he gets better ratings on that right side, which we are trying to fill. His fbref breakdown also compares very favourably to Moussa Diaby's but he's actually better defensively.

This looks like a very talented up and coming youngster, which would be in line with what we are after. One to get really excited about I think!

6 minutes ago, HaydnNUFC said:

But to entertain that horseshit for a second longer that it needs to be, insisting on not paying over £25m will get you nowhere in the PL and will likely not upgrade what you have unless you find an absolute gem.

You could definitely get significantly better than what we have on the continent for £25 million IMO.

Just mentioned Ludo Blas who is on the market for £17 million. With the emergence of Yeremy Pino at Villareal, you could also likely get Chukwueze in that price range. Noah Lang has been linked also, and is in that price range, Madueke too, and I'm sure there are others.

5 minutes ago, HaydnNUFC said:

 

Go abroad, then. Never getting any deals in the PL for that. He seems a shocking journo btw. Sensationalist tripe is mostly what I've seen.

Yup, it's going to be a name out of the blue that is likely from abroad soon enough.

Unless we decide to go for one of the relegated teams players that are more in that price range, but can't help but think we would have done that by now if we really wanted one of those lot.

5 minutes ago, STM said:

The only thing I can think, is that they will eventually pay what they have to in order to get the player they want but right now are trying to pull fees down.

 

It makes zero sense to low balling sides, knowing that they won't accept, unless we believe in the long run it will save us money.

Think a lot of those articles are to get clicks and wind us up man.

You typically wouldn't even bother trying to pull fees down if the difference in valuation is huge. You can always get an inkling of whether there is room for negotiating.

Not sure we are still interested in most of these names being peddled. But these Journos are that dumb they just keep going on about how we won't pay enough for them.

4 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

We only go for players who are out of our price range according to the press ?

I've stopped reading any articles with Harrison and Gordon mentioned, and will now add Harvey Barnes to the list

Think they're getting a kick out of trying to wind up NUFC fans with the idea that our lot are struggling and panicking about getting players in that clubs don't want to sell.

Unless it's a new name that seems feasible, and might make some sense, I'm not reading the article.

13 minutes ago, STM said:

 

 

Oh goodie. 

Shocking article

So we're just sat there bidding for players that their clubs have made clear they do not want to lose unless it is for ridiculous money?

The desperation for clicks really has led to some desperate stuff being put out this summer man. Wow.

Can't lie I am very surprised we haven't followed up any interest in Ludovic Blas, after having apparently watched him a fair bit last season. Left footed and just 24 years old, with 20 goals and 9 assists over the last two years in Ligue 1.

Ridiculously versatile, having played as a right winger, striker, number 10 and central midfielder in a midfield three.

Also apparently a god friend of ASM. And he's been publicly made available for £17 million this summer.

He's one I though we'd have next up, if Diaby didn't pan out as seems to be the case.

Arsenal were never in for Paqueta. So many of the rumours flying around are just being made up, or perhaps it's agents trying to get these moves.

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But Edu has suggested talk of a move for the 24-year-old is wide of the mark. Speaking to Brazilian outlet TNT Sports, the director insisted Arsenal are “well-served” in his position.

 

“I’m very respectful when I talk about Lucas (Paqueta),” he said. “I’m a guy who likes him a lot. I've always liked him, since my time with Brazil’s national team.

 

“He’s had a great season; he was considered the best (foreign) player in the French league. But today, there really isn’t any kind of talk, there’s only my admiration for the player, because the squad today is, in the position he plays, very well-served in this regard."

 

29 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

'most people' was literally wrong when the fact is that the majority are religious, that's the premise I was getting at. Either way I've answered in another post.

Fair point. The funny thing is though, even the so called religious people are guilty of these things against each other.

I think even faith and religion has been bastardized. I think a lot of people just claim to be parts of these groups in order to then pick a fight with other people. How many actually really are looking deeper at themselves, which is really what it is about surely? But human nature is always to find fault with others in order not to deal with our own individual mess.

I've always been more sceptical about religious people that are very loud about other people's ills, and placing shame and guilt on others. That is a self righteous attitude, which just doesn't make sense IMO.

2 minutes ago, HTT II said:

When man (and women) first came about they fucked each other and in Roman times as an example orgies between all sexes was rampant, men with men, women with women, or between one another. There should be no constraints whatsoever by way of some man made religion. We are or were meant to be intersexual and inter-racial, then people made up rules and laws and then we become manufactured in that a man has to be some masculine straight man and a women has to wear make up and dresses and boys play with toy cars and girls dolls and, well, it’s all bull shit.
 

It was Gay Pride yesterday in Newcastle, I didn’t attend but I know many good friends who did and the photos on FB looked amazing. But I do agree, he can have his beliefs, as long as he’s not hurting anyone. I’m as straight as a banana myself, but do find many a man attractive, I wouldn’t want to fuck them though and the idea or thought of me and another bloke doing it isn’t right in my mind, urgh, but then that’s how I’ve been conditioned through hundreds of billions of years. Again I hope in the far future, we are all intersexual and inter-racial. I know blokes who fuck men and women and vice versa, now that must be so liberating.

Everyone is going to have to live out this life based on a myriad of factors and influences on us individually. No matter how much anyone shouts about it, absolutely no one has all the answers, and it is going to be impossible to all come to any kind of agreement.

The minimum requirements, should be to not beat any other person over the head with what you believe is right, and not mistreat anyone who doesn't align with your thinking. The Ego is a hell of a thing though, and people just cannot do this.

8 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

You can't answer a question when it's premise is wrong.

Yeah, you will always find it wrong from your point of view I'm sure.

Anyway ... happy to get back to crying about transfers. Maybe people can try not to stick labels on people they don't even know, and minimise what is a pretty complex issue.

2 minutes ago, leffe186 said:

The key point is that I believe that homosexuality is not a choice. Living your life by rules laid down by a deity and interpreted by people is. We can argue those points if you like, but I’d like to avoid getting hung up on absolutes or semantics. Unless they have a critical impact on Transfer Rumours.

Both parties will argue all day about the validity of their stances, and will never agree.

As far as I know Sarr was not mistreating any LGBTQ person, so just respect whatever code he chooses to live by. If he is ever caught doing so then deal with him appropriately.

None of you know what it's like to grow up in a Muslim household and traditions, and live that way your whole life, and just arrogantly think you can tell them to just do exactly as you say. 

I think it's ridiculous.

2 minutes ago, HTT II said:

I’m married to a Muslim and while she isn’t homophobic, she doesn’t agree with it (she doesn’t think it’s wrong btw, it’s just not in her belief system). But then I don’t agree with her religion, or any religion. As long as you can respect peoples rights to do what they want and be themselves, that should be fine even if you don’t agree. In an ideal world every barrier would not exist, but, especially in the west here, people need to accept different cultures, although the antithesis to ours or modern ideals, doesn’t match and may never. Take Saudi Arabia for example, we bemoan some of their culture and practices, yet they bemoan some of ours, like drinking etc. hopefully in 100 years time we will all be just fucking one another and of mixed race and with zero religion or any other bull shit that holds the human race back. Or an extinction event…

Thank you for being brave enough to address the question.

Your experience actually being married to someone with those beliefs, has clearly shown you the reality of the situation. I imagine most people don't even know a single person with those type of backgrounds, but will just comfortably accuse them of things and stick labels on them. 

1 minute ago, Kid Icarus said:

Quick check and in the UK and US alone the population self identify as 54% and 65% Christian.

 

'most people'

Love how you lot are dodging the question?

Just now, leffe186 said:

Well one reason to fear some religious people is that they only seem to deal in absolutes, which is rather borne out by your first couple of lines.

You can change it to some, you can change it to one ... are those people, or is a person that does what I stated an Islamaphobe/Christianphobe, or any other such thing?

7 hours ago, Pata said:

 

Would much rather take a marquee RW. Wilson is really good when fit and would much rather gamble on him staying fit than hope Almiron/Fraser/Murphy doing something at RW. Marquee RW and some young £10-20m prospect as a striker would be class.

 

I would really like even just Sarr and it would make a lot of sense but think we are hesitant due to his clear homophobia and the fun everyone would have if we signed him, just not worth the PR disaster.

Most people  in the West constantly mock and ridicule religious people, and tell them they are brainwashed and delusional, and would never champion any of their causes, but would sooner tell them to fuck off and keep their religion to themselves  ... so is this 'clear' Islamaphobia/Christianphobia etc?

Don't they have one of the best youth academies?! What is happening with all of the youngsters coming through? My God, what a waste.

3 hours ago, The Prophet said:

Going back to Scamacca. We've been credited with an interest in Isak since the takeover and tried to buy Ekitike. To me that sounds like we're after a player who can play across the front line and who will help our ball retention in the final third.

 

Scamacca would help with neither of those things. While I do think they've overpaid a bit, he should suit West Ham's style of play, even if they create less chances than Sassuolo do.

From the little I've seen of him Scamacca's calling card is his really good hold up and link up play. Every scout report you read on him also supports this. Not sure why you don't think  his ball retention is good.

He's more of a technical sort than a robust powerful type though, so not sure if it will work out with Moyes to be honest. Could see it ending up like it did for Haller.

https://www.scoutedftbl.com/best-young-football-players/gianluca-scamacca/

3 hours ago, STM said:

I'd have Wijnaldum back on loan like. Don't give a fuck what system you fit him in, he's quality and him and Bruno would soon find a rhythm.

 

And before you bother, I know wages and yada yada.

No thanks. Wijnaldum can stay where he is. 

1 hour ago, bobloblaw said:

This bit accurate?

 

http://www.financialfairplay.co.uk/financial-fair-play-explained.php 

 

3. Transfer Fees

An important part of the rules relates to the way that player transfers have to be accounted for. Although a club will often pay a transfer fee to another club immediately, from a Break Even perspective the financial cost of acquiring a player has to be written-off over the duration of the contract. We need an example: let's assume Torres was signed for £50m on a 5 year contract and that Chelsea paid Liverpool £50m via an immediate bank transfer. As far as the Profit & Loss section of accounts is concerned (and the Break Even test), Torres' purchase price would be depreciated (or amortised) evenly over the 5 years of the contract. So, during the first 12 months, only £10m would be incurred as a cost in the accounts and Torres would end the year with a 'book value' of £40m. After 5 years, Torres' contract would have ended and he would be free to leave the club (he would also have a book value of zero). If the club sells Torres part way-through the contract, the club the difference between the amount they receive for the player and the book value at the date of the sale is accounted for immediately in the accounts (and the Break Even test) as a 'loss/profit on player trading'. This is important as it explains how a club can sell a player for below the original purchase price and still record a profit in the accounts during the year of sale. If Liverpool sell Andy Carroll for anything above £18m in the summer, they will record the difference as a profit on player sales during 2013/14. If we assume that Falcao comes to Chelsea for £50m on a 5 year deal in the summer, the club's P&L account for the year will only include £10m as an expense (under the heading 'amortisation'). The club will also, of course, have to include the player wages as an expense in the Profit & Loss account. If  you want to know more about 'amortisation', see the video at the foot of this page.

Great post. So it's based on the length of contract rather than the payment schedule then? Interesting.

Just now, WillingtonMag said:

? no it was a joke mate haha. Things will come good.

Thank God man. Was getting worried for you