KaKa

1 hour ago, Coffee_Johnny said:

All I’ve seen of Kalimuendo is a highlight reel. So apologies if it wasn’t representative. Have to say though, development potential acknowledged, I wasn’t impressed. Seemed decidedly average at everything. Scrappy goals, imbalanced dribbling, iffy touch… not the kind of selection of best contributions to games which would give confidence that the usual contribution to games is going to be PL standard. 

There is no way you watched any compilation of his and came up with that assessment. I'm sorry but that is shocking!

52 minutes ago, Disco said:

A quick look tells us he played the equivalent of 18 full games across 3 competitions in that famous season. I agree he has something about him but trying to laud him as anything other than an impact sub who is somewhat versatile is laughable. Aim higher. 

He was 22 years old at the time. In that season he played 15 games on the right, and had 10 goals and 5 assists from those 15 games.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/maxwel-cornet/leistungsdaten/spieler/234781/plus/0?saison=2018

I think he is far more than just an impact sub, but we'll see soon enough. I'm sure he'll get picked up by someone decent, and will get to show it.

10 minutes ago, Slim said:

Dont get the hate like. Done well to get a move to one best clubs in the World.

 

Foden hardly played for City for ages now look at him.

 

Sure he will develop more playing with Messi and Naymar then Wilson and Wood.

I imagine the annoyance is down to them mucking about over the transfer, instead of being clear on either not wanting to join, or wanting to wait on PSG first. Instead the agent was apparently at one point not even answering calls.

Regarding development, that will mostly be down to coaching and getting enough playing time on the pitch. Playing with Messi and Neymar as opposed to Wilson and Wood is not really the issue as far as that goes.

10 minutes ago, Theregulars said:

Imagine because clubs know Burnley are desperate to sell any player of value so they’ll bide their time until Burnley have to accept a lower bid. 
 

To be clear I rate him and think he’d be useful back up to wilson and wide forward option. Doesn’t massively move the needle but improves things overall.

Yeah, maybe. I'm pretty certain they get that clause met though.

I really liked that 2018-2019 Lyon team, where he featured on the right, and having seen enough of them that year, he would be a massive upgrade on that side for what we currently have there IMO.

2 minutes ago, Gawalls said:

Reports now coming in Everton are looking at cornet - he has a £17.5m release clause, to me that’s well worth a gamble and we shouldn’t miss out.

 

 

Honestly, I don't understand how he hasn't been snapped up yet. It's a ridiculous price for a 25 year old with his experience and versatility.

The guy was productive on that right side at a very high level and could slot in there for us. Could also cover on the left and upfront if needed. If we ever switch to a 3 at the back against certain opposition, he would also be ideal as a left wing back.

Someone is going to get a great deal with him.

1 minute ago, LFEE said:

Misses a sitter. Miss kick for the shot against post. Deflection for first goal. Offside for the second goal ??

Here's another then, against them at home earlier in the rounds. He was rinsing them! This Lyon team was so much fun man. Ndombele looked a massive prospect before Spurs ruined him.

26 minutes ago, joeyt said:

Sarr would be a lot more exciting than Cornet

I feel like people just don't remember what Cornet was doing out wide for Lyon because it was a while ago. This was at the highest level too. All they have in their minds is that he is at Burnley.

Do you lot remember this performance against Pep and Man City in the Champion's League?

Gave them fits on the right and scored, before then moving upfront later on, when they changed formation, and scoring again.

22 minutes ago, ponsaelius said:

Just don’t see what other people seem to see. He has some physical attributes and definitely had a rather spectacular run of goals early in the season in particular but I was not once impressed by his ability on the ball or his creative outlet.

 

I’d probably rather see him up front for us than Chris Wood but that’s about all I would say and it’s hardly a ringing endorsement. Would be a disappointing signing if he’s the winger we brought in IMO - certainly not a player who would raise the teams level.

You've watched him play upfront and on the left wing for Burnley though, who play a very specific type of game, so probably not the best light in which to view him.

1 hour ago, Solitude20 said:

Then it means PSG won’t be getting Samacca now, right? I think we should be all over him since we had no chance earlier when PSG showed interest. 

Scamacca is still expected to sign for PSG's first team. Ekitike is not going to start for them.

Will be fascinating seeing how this plays out for him over there. If it goes pear shaped, can't say I'll feel bad for him. Should have just been up front about not wanting to join.

In any case, we should be right in for Kalimuendo now PSG have gone for him. Oddly enough PSG are brining him in over their own exceptionally super talented youngster that has just proven himself at Lens the past two seasons as a teenager! Both similarly versatile and well rounded strikers.

Would be hilarious if we get Kalimuendo and he ends up doing better with us than Ekitike ultimately does with them.

5 minutes ago, ponsaelius said:

Don't get the Cornet hype at all like. Not once been impressed by his allround game this season, and puzzled why he had so little attacking impact in Ligue 1 that Lyon ended up moving him to left back.

Was actually really productive on the wing for Lyon. Really strange that they moved his position, but think it had more to do with a change in system to 3 at the back, and trying to fit him in as a younger player, who had the best attributes to play as a wing back.

5 minutes ago, McCormick said:

I’m hoping we just do Broja on a loan-to-buy, Cornet for a cool 18m and then spend up to 30m on a young cm (or pip Arsenal to Tielemans). That would be a great- relatively sensible - window for us.

Cornet for around 18 million and a 30 million centre-mid gets us more points than Diaby for the same money imo.

Cornet was very good on the right wing for Lyon. 7 goals and 5 assists back in the 2018-2019 season when he last played there. Was only 22 years old then too.

I'm actually surprised we haven't jumped all over that move straight away. Think Howe really likes Diaby and Harrison as initial priorities.

25 minutes ago, Cookie1892 said:

See he is training with the squad and played Saturday despite reports of him being dropped?

 

Is Eddie giving him another chance?

Seems, he is, and rightfully so. He's a potential homegrown (Newcastle specific) player down the line and is just 22 years old, so why not. His big brother bounced back well last season under Howe and earned a new contract, and so that probably works in his favour too, as there will be some goodwill there.

Saw this yesterday ironically, as it popped up after I had watched a few Newcastle videos from the club channel ...

Just now, McCormick said:

Add Palace to that list. Honestly, the championship is such a hotbed for young talent.

Most of the young English talent not getting a chance in the Premier League are now getting their opportunities to show what they can do in the Championship, and clubs are taking greater notice. It's good for the England team that's for sure.

59 minutes ago, HaydnNUFC said:

 

I would be very happy with this guy. Not really sure why he doesn't get more hype, because his numbers the last two years at Lens have been really good for a teenager.

He's smaller than Ekitike as he's listed at about 5 ft 9, but he's got that low centre of gravity and is stocky and explosive. Looks a well rounded forward that can hold off players, run with the ball down the channels and strike the ball well with both feet.

I read in the Athletic a little while ago that the kind of central midfielder the club is after is going to be more of an athletic possession based type that uses short passes to recycle possession, and  maintain control of the game.

And so I don't think it will be Paqueta we look at bringing in, but rather someone more like that Ibrahim Sangare from PSV that we've also been linked with.

Actually, I just found the quote from the Athletic that I referred to ...

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Beyond that, another midfielder — with a dynamic, metronomic passer-type coveted — would ideally arrive.

Loving Brentford's signings this summer. 

Kind of signings that would have been devastating if Mike Ashley was still here, and we were trying to get Choudhury on loan.

7 hours ago, Astroblack said:

I see no similarities between Jack Grealish’s game and Eze. Grealish cuts in from the outside and plays on the left hand side of a front three. Eze plays on the left hand side of the midfield three. He may be the most attacking midfielder in the team but he’s no way a winger and replicating Zaha’s output would be extremely difficult. You also have to remember Zaha is basically 30 and has always been some sort of winger. I think Eze should continue to develop as a midfielder because he can become a very good one, one that could surely play for England. I think Eze is a classic midfielder and when I say that I mean a 6 goal season for the rest of his career would be exceptional. 

 

 

 

I have no idea why you keep arguing, when you clearly have not seen Eze play. The majority of his career he has played either in the number 10 position or on the left (like the link below shows), and his play style is similar to Grealish. He is never a Yaya Toure or Gerrard type midfielder like you said previously, it's nonsense. He can play in a midfield three though, and probably will start out replacing Gallagher in there this season, but they will lose out on the defensive pressing and tenacity Gallagher provided in that position, as Eze just doesn't get stuck in the same way. He is more of an attack minded player.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/eberechi-eze/leistungsdaten/spieler/479999

2 hours ago, Astroblack said:

 

I've seen him mostly in the middle or left of the midfield three... This was for Palace, didn't see him for QPR so not sure he played in the front line there.

 

But I think it'd going to be a tough order replace Wilfried Zaha. The amount of fouls he gets, the goals, assists and general shithousery may take a few cycles to get right. I do hope he stays. I think he will as a lot of the big teams have players in his position and I could see him becoming a wingback like Victor Moses.( And if anyone thinks I'm bringing up the old LWB again, Louis Van Gal told Zaha himself you have two options, - wingback or number 9) They'll build a statue if he ended his career there. Iverson may never have won a ring but the respect he has in the game goes so much further than that. 

 

I love Eze btw but I thought he was a 8/10  depending on the system. Zaha is primarily on the left, no? Where as Eze is all action in the middle third. Thought Eze was the driving midfield type like a Gerrard or Toure. 

Eze is nothing like a Gerrard and Toure all action midfielder man. My goodness. Not sure who you're mistaking him with.

He's a creative wide man/number 10 in the Jack Grealish type mould, that sometimes has played in a midfield three.

1 hour ago, SUPERTOON said:

 

Still a big fan of Dolberg. Brentford would be a fantastic move for him, and should help get him back on track. Fantastic forward with all the tools you want to be a complete modern striker. Wouldn't have minded us getting him this summer.

7 hours ago, Astroblack said:

Zaha and Eze are completely different players. Eze’s a driving type midfielder and Zaha is a winger who’s a striker in todays game. Don’t think Eze will stick around like Zaha. One good injury season and he’ll be off. Think CMs like that are hard to come by so its best to get them when they’re available at the best price. 

Not sure which Eze you refer too. Eze is an attacking midfielder that has mostly played from the number 10 position and the left side. He has also sometimes played as an attacking central midfielder in a midfield three. He is an exceptional dribbler with great technique, who plays with his head up and has great vision. In the clip below for his first season at Palace, you'll see most of his work came from that left side. He could easily replace Zaha there.

42 minutes ago, rgk_lfc said:

 

Vieira deserves a lot of credit for their style of play and approach last season. They were impressive. But I think the signings are more due to the structure the owners have put in.

 

They had tried to move away from a traditional way of running things after Sam Allardyce but then De Boer ended up being a disaster. My understanding is that they appointed Hodgson as a manager but were changing the structure in the background focusing on talented youngsters in the championship and other clubs. 

 

Again not trying to put down Vieira's impact which was huge. But I highly doubt as the manager of NYCFC and Nice he was tracking players like Olise and Geuhi in the championship. 

Ah, right. That's interesting if so. I have heard a lot of good things about their current director of football that used to play for them Dougie Freedman, so I guess that might all tie in together.

20 minutes ago, rgk_lfc said:

 

Palace have been making good moves in the last few years. Not sure if it is all about Viera. I think their owners are building a good setup like Leicester, Brighton, Liverpool, and Newcastle. 

I think Vieira helps take them to another level. Prior to that it's all been a bit dull, although I agree the general structure they had in place was very solid.

Vieira came in last summer under tough circumstances and brought in Guehi, Andersen, Olise and Gallagher who added a lot more quality to the more workman like types they already had in place. He also changed the way they approached games really quickly.

15 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Palace apparently in for Gibbs-White. Depending on the fee, i would be interested in that for us. I think he played advanced/10 last season but he has the physical profile to play 8.

He was really good at Sheffield United last season. Very exciting talent.

See this is what I mean about Vieira. I have no doubt he's going to get quality players in. Wouldn't be surprised if they even end up better than they were this past year.

5 minutes ago, The Bonk said:

I'm with you on most points, @KaKa, I don't think Palace will go down, they have enough quality and experience to stay up. Removing your top goal scoring and creating players will, at best, see them replicate this past season finish, but most likely sit at 14-16th in the table. 

 

I'm a fan of Viera, the player and now manager, think he's got more about him than some players from his time as manager. 

 

 

 

Hey, you guys may prove to be right. We'll just have to see how it plays out.

More so than others perhaps, I just really think very highly of what Vieira did last year, including the plyers he chose to bring in, and so I think he does similar this year, even if they lose both Zaha and Gallagher.

I am also a massive fan of Eze, I think he is more composed and is better technically than Zaha, and is also more aware of his team mates. They brought him back slowly last season and eased him in, and so I think he will be raring to go next year now. I'm eager to see him under a more progressive manager now in Vieira, than what Hodgson was. Think he could be a break out player this coming season.