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I cannot believe that this summer both Aouar and Brandt are available for less than £20 million.

Unfortunately, it doesn't appear we are looking for this type of midfielder. 

3 minutes ago, PlymouthGeordie said:

 

Agree to disagree but I'd say suggesting someone who would start the majority of games on the bench would get plenty of minutes is the silly conclusion.

 

As stated, he's a good player but he'd cost too much for where he could take us in my opinion. 

As a backup for both wings he would have played regularly there. You said he would barely feature. No chance.

£25 million at the very highest for me personally, otherwise we shouldn't be looking at that move.

2 minutes ago, PlymouthGeordie said:

 

I'm not shuffling.

 

He'd be a bench warmer at all of them, it's obvious. 

You claimed he would barely get any game time. I think I've shown why that claim is a silly one.

You're entitled to hold on to that assertion if you want though. That's fine.

3 hours ago, Shearergol said:

 

So who reads this forum and set that up?

Imagine if its Shola himself 

27 minutes ago, TRon said:

 

Why would they when they are buying better players with the money?

 

 

Hope it all backfires on them.

2 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Big man, what is your point?

Never mind. You clearly weren't even following what myself and Plymouth Geordie were talking about, so God knows why you started harping on about Pepe.

Just now, The College Dropout said:

Aye but Arsenal aren’t in for Harrison now. And neither will any top 6 side. 

My God ... that wasn't anything to do with the discussion.

So by your logic any players that aren't actively being pursued by a top 6 club, are therefore not top 6 players, and are incapable of featuring for them?

I'm out man. Peace and blessings.

2 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Pepe is legit on the outskirts of the Arsenal first team.  He’s like their 14th man.

 

they are actively trying to replace him. 

Yes, he was awful last season, which is why they stopped using him altogether pretty much.

I bet if they had Harrison instead of him, Harrison would have played far more often so Bukayo could have got more of a rest on that side, which most Arsenal fans were increasingly concerned about.

So the idea he would barely get any playing time for a top 6 side is a nonsense.

7 minutes ago, et tu brute said:

We can, I think you need to watch some of the videos covering FFP in relation to Newcastle. Honestly man people need to chill out, we still have 6 weeks of the window to go.

It was always going to take more patience landing players at the top end of the pitch, as those are often the most sought after. Teams will likely start being more reasonable later on, just depends on how much we are prioritising getting players in ahead of the start of the season.

1 minute ago, PlymouthGeordie said:

 

Pepe didn't start a single game from January onwards and Elanga got game time largely because of the Greenwood situation.

 

Harrison is good, just not top 6 good.

Don't start shuffling and making excuses man

You've now thrown in a Pepe caveat about him not starting a single game and a weak Mason Greenwood excuse.

You said he would barely get any playing time at any of those clubs, and that just wasn't the fact you made it out to be.

6 minutes ago, PlymouthGeordie said:

 

Tell me which of the top 6 teams he'd get regular game time at then...

 

City and Liverpool are a right off immediately.

 

Spurs have Son, Richarlison and Kuluveski as their wide options.

 

Arsenal are blessed with Martinelli and Saka.

 

Chelsea now have Sterling, Havertz, Mount and Pulusic who all play in the forward positions.

 

It only leaves Man Utd and even they have Rashford and Sancho who were admittedly poor last year but possess more ability than Harrison.

Nicolas Pepe got regular game time at Arsenal and so he would have definitely got game time over there.

Chelsea have continuously rotated a myriad of wide men, because they don't seem to have any consistency from those areas, and his numbers better most of theirs in a much lesser team, so I imagine he would get playing time there too.

Man Utd ended up having to use Anthony Elanga a fair bit last season, so he would certainly get minutes in that team too, because again their wide players have been very inconsistent.

8 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

 

I'm not a massive fan, but I think he's very underrated. Wingers scoring 8 goals a season twice in a row for a relegation battling team normally have more hype around them. 

He's not as eye catching a player, but you can't knock the man's production for a team at the lower end of the table. Those numbers likely increase with even better players around him.

4 minutes ago, Ikon said:

True, but IF we refuse to pay up then we will have to gamble a bit more. And I’d choose Madueke over Harrison  (if possible).

If Wilson wasn't quite so prone to injury, we probably would have gone for a younger prospect like that. Maybe we still do though, so let's see. I'd be fine with either approach really.

3 minutes ago, PlymouthGeordie said:

 

They aren't lazy. He would barely get any minutes for any of the top 6 clubs. Hence he isn't a top 6 player.

You saying so doesn't make it true. What a ridiculous statement.

4 minutes ago, Ikon said:

Harrison is probably better than mid table aye. Personally I’d rather try and get someone like Madueke from PSV. Not sure how difficult it would be to get him or how much he would cost. But he could be very very after a season or so and will then after only get better and better. I reckon I’d rather give someone young like him a chance. A player that is very talented and good already and can grow with the club and won’t need to be replaced if things work out for him which seems rather likely. Would he cost much more than Harrison? Would say 35m or similar be enough? 

I agree with this. However, the right wing is the one open spot in our starting 11 front three, and I think Howe wants to add someone that will definitely be productive there right away, because he wants to make sure we add more goals to the first team.

Diaby's output is so high in that position, that he was likely seen as viable even though he'd be coming in from abroad. Especially because he also has a profile that fits the Premier League wide player i.e. pace and athleticism.

Not sure Howe will be looking to add someone that is not quite as established/productive yet in that position, for this summer.

3 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

 

Just to follow on from this, I know stats don't tell you everything, but the lad on the other side of the pitch who everyone would have been over the moon about signing, got 17 goals and 12 assists in the same two seasons (albeit in 10 fewer games overall)

I'm glad someone else pointed this out, because I couldn't be bothered to.

The 'he is never a top 6 player', or 'he is a mid-table player' kind of comments are so lazy.

Just now, 54 said:

So what you're saying is that Isak has been a non-starter all summer and if Hope knew that Edwards probably knew this too, at a time when the club has been very tight lipped, Edwards with not much to write about, does an article that he knew would generate clicks by saying Isak was a target, then a few days later squashed that same link as he also knew that would get clicks. 

 

Shameless  

Yeah, I think it is very clear now that Edwards is just making stuff up because he doesn't really have any information.

3 minutes ago, TRon said:

 

Kante for me is that type of player. We've had over the hill versions in Nicky Butt, but the best ones are decent on the ball as well, and will look for one-twos, not just pass the ball and stop like Colback for example.

 

I'm doubtful we are even looking at that sort of a player in this window, but at some point we do need a top class CM in front of the back four, assuming that's not going to be Bruno's long term position.

Yeah, it's going to be interesting. Bruno is capable of both roles for sure. However, his numbers for expected goals and assists are so high, as he is so adept at creating chances in the final third, that it might be more beneficial freeing him up to be more involved in those areas.

I think we're probably better served having him in the type of areas De Bruyne gets into, rather than the areas Rodri occupies.

2 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

He was pap and Antonio was better.

Could very easily see the same happening with Scammacca. Think Moyes works better with a more robust type. Scammacca is more of a technical type link man.

Just now, Jaqen said:

Surely nobody believes Adama doesn't work out and it's genetic? 

 

 

Think this has been discussed on here before.

He said he doesn't do weights. Technically this is true, but not really, because he does his strength work with resistance cables, but the sort that you can electronically increase and decrease the resistance on.

There's a clip from Wolves where he is working out with them. They will pretty much ultimately have the same kind of effect as weight training does.

Just now, SUPERTOON said:

Apologies it wasn’t an article it was Chris Waugh from the athletic on a fan channel talking about transfers @The Prophet summed it up in his post which I will quote below.

Ah, right. No worries.

Just thought there might have been a Newcastle article I missed, so was going to check it out.

Just now, SUPERTOON said:

From yesterday I think, let me find it again 

Cheers

Just want to read through their thoughts on where things are with our transfers.

9 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

The athletic pretty much said yesterday that the Asensio links are not true and he isn’t the profile of signing we are looking to make.

Which article was this? 

20 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

I feel like Moyes-ball needs a link man uptop. Is that Scamacca?

 

Youtubed: Yes - he seems excellent at it in terms of little flicks to team mates

What happened with Moyes and Haller exactly, because I would have thought he had that with Haller and he binned him off.

2 minutes ago, Kanji said:

Mate, I just don’t know anyone who doesn’t think Rodri or Busquets are brilliant

 

Issue I have is then with Joelinton, who’s not necessarily the best at getting up pitch and contributing attack. 
 

Melo at the base with Bruno and Paqueta and we’re purring. 

Yeah, well I think the likes of Rodri and Busquets are the very best of this sort of player, so naturally people are bound to say they are great. 

Typically though the more mid-level players like this that maybe aren't on a top team, are overlooked. So someone like the Maxime Lopez guy I mentioned, or even Guimaraes previous partner in midfield at Lyon Maxence Caqueret. Both so good at using their dribbling to evade pressure in deeper areas before playing shorter passes through the lines to start attacks or switching the ball into wider areas of the pitch.