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1 minute ago, HaydnNUFC said:

Some thick arseholes in fanbases up and down the country boo a 5 second gesture that their team does because they believe the absolute guff that the right has churned out about it being Marxist whilst most people who boo it don't know what Marxism is. They've been told that it's pandering to a 'Marxist organisation' which is just a mask to hide behind so they can boo/jeer a stance against racism because they're probably racists themselves. 

See this is my problem with all of this nonsense. It's now turned into a point of argument for two political sides to have a go at each other on.

It has absolutely nothing to do with any "stance against racism", whatever on Earth that even means. The whole thing is a joke.

5 minutes ago, ToonArmy1892 said:

I think quite a few people think that way but just keep quiet for fear of being branded a racist, i wouldn't boo it if i went, i wouldn't applaude it either.

The whole thing is beyond ridiculous.

Why on Earth do people think they can even reach those morons? If anything they'll be revelling in the fact all this fuss is being made as a result of their idiotic behaviour.

Just punish those that can be identified when they do anything stupid and allow all this other meaningless nonsense. It is so insulting man.

So after a year of kneeling I would argue that any racial tensions are far more heightened than they were before. These players had been kneeling for damn near a year and as soon as England went out there was a torrent of racial abuse online, so it's clearly been very impactful.

Can anyone please explain to me what this kneeling is actually achieving? I find it quite patronising and meaningless. An empty gesture that ticks a box and makes people feel they have done something meaningful.

If people really think these kinds of things are going to impact the kind of people that are prejudice then you really must be living in an alternative reality. 

Just realised Jetro Willems is still without a club at the minute ... and we're starting Ritchie at left wing back.

2 minutes ago, jarrovianmag said:

Haven't they a clause to buy back?

Ah, smart if they do. Think he's going to do very well.

Chelsea will be paying a £100 million for him to go back in about 5 years.

10 minutes ago, ManDoon said:

Hjoberg was a really good singing from Mou though.

For sure. Also saw something in Tanganga and brought him through initially.

Problem is he thinks everyone in the team has to be like Hojberg and Tanganga. 100% committed and agressive all the time.

Game just doesn't work like that. Have to find a way to accommodate players like Dele and Pogba in the team for what they provide going forward. And use other players to cover them in your system.

Nuno went more of a 4-3-3 today and brought Skip in to sit deepest and it worked very well and helped provide more of a framework where Dele could feature and not cost the team too much.

Well done Nuno. 

Good to see Dele back on the pitch too. Mourinho would have you believe it was impossible to beat a team like Man City with Dele on the pitch because he's too lazy.

Just realised their bench is worth more than what Ashley wants for the club 

Disgusting

Hope Nuno and Spurs do them in.

7 minutes ago, jackyboy said:

Once ASM is knackered, which is normally after an hour, then we are knackered

The frustrating thing is I think Fraser is a decent deputy for him in that role and Fraser also already has a good rapport with Wilson.

Once that hour mark hits just get Fraser on for ASM high up the pitch with Wilson. Such an obvious sub.

Longstaff could have then come on for Hayden, and Hayden dropping deeper to replace Shelvey who also tires badly around that hour mark.

Would have given us a much better chance of getting back up to speed and having a chance to get at them.

Just now, ToonArmy1892 said:

Bruce has had loads of luck since he's beem here.

 

It runs out.

Very very true. Can't dispute that at all.

That penalty award is a joke. My goodness.

Liked a lot of what we did going forward today.

No idea what the defensive selection was about today though. Ultimately cost us the game.

Losing the second half 0 - 3 is unreal.

Saint-Maximin faded badly in the second half. Can't believe he's played the 90, especially with his injury history.

Would have mad more sense taking ASM off man and pushing Fraser up into his role. Shocking subs.

Ritchie has cost us this game. Head completely gone.

Ritchie has fallen to pieces defensively. This is ridiculous.

It's only the 68th minute and that's a decent sub actually.

Hayden into Shelvey's role and Fraser into where Hayden was hopefully.

Willock coming in for Hayden will improve us considerably. Hayden was shocking in the lead up to that goal. not very good in those forward areas at all.

Unbeleivably bad defending man.  West Ham showing their quality.

1 minute ago, STM said:

I don't get how that's a pen?

It's not a pen IMO. Knew they wouldn't over turn it though.

What a shambles. Poor Woodman ...

Ritchie completely losing Coufal there. Very very poor defending.

2 minutes ago, David Edgar said:

ASM is a ridiculous player but a proper manager would demand that he does his stuff in the final third mainly.  Never in his own half.  Massive liability.

He is so unbelievably talented man. He's been given a free role that seems ideal for him.

Just neds a simple instruction to limit the trickery to the other teams half and release it earlier when he's in ours. Hopefully he can do that.