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Koopmeiners letting these lot off man.

Typically hits the ball so well too. Damn.

Just now, Pilko said:

You just know they'll get a sickening late equaliser after loads of added time, or a dodgy pen, or something. I can't enjoy Liverpool yet.

Atalanta can be dangerous on the counter.

Just as likely they concede more too.

Good finish Scammacca!

Liverpool getting dealt with at home.

Koopmeiners has to score there man.

Atalanta have completely nullified Liverpool and are causing them problems.

52 minutes ago, Jagten said:

Circa 50 non-penalty expected goals for Jonathon David from 140 Ligue 1 appearances for one of their better, more attacking teams btw. Not a fantastic return. I wouldn't touch him. 

Nah. He's a good player and knows where the net is. Stop it.

1 minute ago, ponsaelius said:

 

At Milan, doesn't play all that often.

Was playing a fair bit earlier this season and looked good. 

He is great to watch when he's running the show. Classy footballer.

DeKetelaere starts for Atalanta too! 

Such a shame these are all on at once. Going to end up hopping around all over the place.

This makes me very happy.

Need the big man in there wreaking havoc man.

Let's go!

Jonathan David vs Villa.

Koopmeiners and Ederson vs Liverpool.

Some players of interest to watch tonight against Prem opposition.

Leverkusen vs West Ham should be very interesting too.

Fantastic matches on today.

1 hour ago, 54 said:

You'd say that, but we are taking a squad to Australia for two friendlies in two days, half a week after the season ends  

Yeah, and that makes more sense.

Attach it to the end of the season, and then let everyone go off on their holidays and then come back for a more standard pre season that doesn't take too much out of them right from the start of next season.

Yeah, Gilmour is decent, with a lot of room for even further growth still. He's only 22 years old.

1 hour ago, Groundhog63 said:

Mouth reckons we're looking at Billy Gilmour ???

Was reading some Veerman scouting reports yesterday, and he sounds like a Bruno type of player, as far as being press resistant and controlling games from the 6 position. Gilmour is some version of that type of player too.

Just glad we are looking at players that can spell Bruno, as we have no one else like him at the club.

Good to know that about Longstaff, because his drop off has been significant, and it's been frustrating to see.

Fair play to him if he's been playing through injuries that are making his mobility more difficult. Can't be upset with him at all really, knowing that's the case.

13 hours ago, GeordieDazzler said:

Barcelona fan urgh 

Messi fan.

1 hour ago, Nepharite said:

Always wary of players who look good in the Eredivisie as the defending, on the whole is atrocious.

I'm sure other things are taken into consideration when they are scouted to mitigate for that. Too many great players come out of that league. 

Ideally, we'd let them go elsewhere and prove themselves first, but then prices sky rocket.

A big part of overcoming FFP will be buying players directly from these leagues and getting it right, as we'd get great value and save tens of millions.

Scouting is going to have to be on point though, for sure.

4 hours ago, leffe186 said:

There’s just so much luck involved though. We sent Dane Scarlett (good player, just scored three or four in two games for England U20s or some such) to Ipswich this season because they had a young manager who used to manage our kids and needed a centre-forward. They promptly bought another one, started the season better than expected and Scarlett barely got a kick.

 

Alfie Devine is a lovely midfielder who we loaned to Port Vale. Forced his way into the team and looked great. Plymouth wanted him and have another loan player of ours and a manager who used to coach them both for England. We thought it would be a better test for him in a solid mid-table team. Couple of months later they’re fighting relegation and the manager’s out.

 

There are tons more examples, even this year. I suspect it’s the same for everyone, we just don’t hear about other clubs. It feels like Chelsea and Arsenal have a lot of successful loans, but it’s probably just that they send a billion players out so law of averages says one or two will hit pay dirt.

I agree completely that some luck is involved for sure.

I'm not sure how much work goes into organising these loans, but I've always thought the role should be a very important one that requires a ton of work, with some serious analysis of the teams players are being sent to, what other options they have in the position your player features in, and agreement throughout the club they are being sent to, that the player is rated - from their recruitment guys, coaching staff, manager through to ownership. I think this would help things a lot.

I think a lot of these loans are based off of personal relationships with certain individuals at other clubs, like your examples referenced, and in those circumstances it's easy to see how things can go left when more people aren't as bought in.

1 hour ago, Optimistic Nut said:

 

He got more experience that half season than a lot of kids we have at a similar age. Was regular in the match day squad of a club qualifying for Europe, got to play against Rangers & Celtic and a pretty tense derby rivalry, scored at Ibrox. 

 

You'd have thought Volendam near the bottom of the Dutch League would have been ideal for minutes but he can't even manage that. Can't keep blaming the loaning clubs. 

 

 

 

I blame whoever is in charge of this on our end tbh.

These guys should only be sent out on loan if there are clubs that are familiar with them and are confident they will play a key role for their first teams.

He is still a teenager and so it is not a given he should be sent out on loan straight away necessarily. He could have benefitted massively from being in the under 21 setup here and also training with the first team if there were no viable options.

Don't just send them out on loan unless there is far greater certainty they will play. Kuol had no experience in Europe whatsoever and so should have gone to a lower level than the Eredevise if necessary as he was just 18 still.

I think his situation is not being handled well at all.

37 minutes ago, JLC said:

https://theathletic.com/5402899/2024/04/10/yankuba-minteh-newcastle-feyenoord

Our loan management team is Ameobi and Ramage 

4 hours ago, madras said:

Wasn't the Hearts thing because they had Australian players there that he knew from the international set up and thought it would help him acclimatise even if he didn't get much game time to start with?

Seemed a waste of time to me. Would have been more useful keeping him around the club that first season to settle in, and then loaning him out somewhere where he's a guaranteed starter.

Eric Dier for that Saka goal man. 

Something is seriously wrong with that guy. 

23 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

Barcelona vs A-League XI.  Meaningless kick around.  The lad was extremely raw and wasn’t even a starter at CCM.  He should’ve been shipped to a lower league club to give him experience at a level where he’d get minutes.  Instead Ameobi sends him to the SPL and Eredivisie.  Absolute madness 

Yeah, it had to be somewhere he would start games without question to get used to that.

Dutch 1st league, albeit in a poorer team, was too much. And the Hearts thing was totally ridiculous.

Belgian league has been the go to for Brighton's prospects. Don't understand why we didn't go that route, considering Ashworth was here, or perhaps like you said League 2 or something.

Interestingly enough I stumbled on a segment covering Karamoko Dembele who was the 16 year old wonder kid at Celtic that got some minutes at that age, but then lost his way. He since joined Brest who loaned him to Blackpool this season where he has played every game and really found his feet and been a star for them. We need a similar type move for Kuol.

I find his current situation incredibly annoying.

Remember watching this guy give Barcelona problems in a friendly over the summer for his previous club.

Not sure what is happening, but it isn't good at all. Would have been better off just keeping him around.

Need to get him somewhere in Belgium next season. Terrible loan this year and last. Complete waste.

16 minutes ago, LFEE said:

Saudi clubs going back in for Salah again. £70m+ apparently.

Oof ... that price drop. What was the highest offer last summer again?

Didn't it reach £150 million at one point?!

3 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

Still maintain Szoboszlai would have been tasty off our right hand side.

Yeah, really liked him in that position.

4 hours ago, Armchair Pundit said:

https://the72.co.uk/2024/04/08/newcastle-united-watch-2m-peterborough-united-ace-put-in-decent-cup-final-display/

 

Been to a handful of Peterborough matches recently, the lad's alright, not sure he'd work as well in the Prem, but you never know.

Name is weirdly familiar.

Anyway, just been watching some highlights of his. Very very impressive athlete!

Interesting link. Guess if we are still looking for a younger, versatile, developmental striker then it could be feasible.