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Arsenal are so brain dead man. Still playing a million passes side to side in front of the Bayern box, with hardly any time left.

5 minutes ago, Geordie Ahmed said:

Doku is bang average, he'll do nowt

Good timing!

Dopey from Rudiger. Has that in him.

2 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

Brilliant isn’t it.

Have a lot of friends that are Arsenal supporters so feel bad for some of them.

The team is so weak mentally whenever they have any sort of hiccup though.

Can't see them winning anything anytime soon. Too fragile.

Arsenal man. Falling apart late on again. Yikes.

Just now, Holloway said:

Bayern offered fuck all so far

Switched from that game. Been pretty dull.

Get in Real! Lovely!

15 minutes ago, Away Toon said:

So if the reports are true what role/position does Chiesa want to play? If it's left winger not much point buying him.

He was being used at wing back at times and wasn't happy about it.

2 minutes ago, nufc123 said:

Im not talking only about us. Manu should be all over him. He doesnt pop up in any of the transfer rumours. National team seem to have forgot him.

 

 

 

I think it will be tough for anyone to get him. If any top clubs go in for him they are likely asking for even more money.

2 minutes ago, Ikon said:

I’ve always loved Chiesa and his style of play and attributes. I don’t see us going this path though as he’s already 26 plus and there’s perhaps too much of a risk in signing him for say 40m with not much resale value in a few years, or no value at all if he doesn’t succeed. I think we are much more likely to spend this money on a players that is 24 or younger, most likely 20-22 year old that is already proven and has an almost guaranteed uphill path. 
 

Maybe not this exact player who we have been linked with, but Nico Williams for example is what, 21? Has a release clause just over 40m. Like I said, an example, but a player in this kind of bracket seems more likely. He might not want to leave and also have other top clubs after him. Say it was possible to sign him and he cost 55m for example then I think we would be much more likely to do this deal than 40m for Chiesa. 

Yeah, I could see this being the case. Perhaps if FFP wasn't such a big consideration we'd be more likely to go for it, but with it being a thing, the risk is perhaps too great.

Just now, nufc123 said:

Im not watching much Milan games, but Tomori is the best CB we have met this season. Why isnt he linked away for 70m? Much rather him than Brantwhite for the same sum.

I think at this point it would be very difficult to get him out of Milan.

15 minutes ago, STM said:

Out of the two, Tosin would be my choice. He's an absolute monster.

He's so underrated. I actually recall Pep wanting him to stay, but he chose to move on to play more.

The thing I like about both he and Kelly is that I think they'd suit the way we play really well. 

Both are big, quick, good on the ball and use the ball well too.

6 hours ago, mighty__mag said:

 

Yes we'll have him.

My God this is so enticing.

The injury history and drop off the last year or so, likely gives us a pretty good chance of being in play for him, as perhaps doubts now exist at other clubs that would be much tougher competition.

The price doing the rounds is £40 million, which is exceptional value for the calibre of player he is. He also fits in very well as he can play on the right, left or upfront. He's just 26 years old too.

For where we currently are I think I would do this deal if possible. The upside is impossibly high if it works out well. 

49 minutes ago, ponsaelius said:

We have done stop gap signings in Targett and Wood.

 

Wood was fine in the end because we almost got our money back.

 

Targett has been a poor signing permanently. I remember at the time it was said he wasn't our first choice for left back that summer, but we were struggling to make transfer progress so we got it done to move on. In hindsight you can now see why Howe wasn't convinced - and unfortunately with the injuries he's looking a bit of a dead weight for the fee we paid.

 

I can see similar concerns over Kelly/Tosin. Neither are ever going to be worldbeaters, and the free transfers may lumber us with slightly inflated wages for players of their level. Injury concerns probably add to that. However they would add solid depth at the back to prioritise spend in forward areas. 

Its interesting how players are viewed really. Kelly and Tosin are 25 and 26 and haven't really been tested at a higher level yet on the European stage, so how do we know they will never be world beaters, and in actuality what does that even mean?

I've seen a lot of people on here talk about wanting Tomori, but when he was leaving Chelsea, I'm sure if we had gone for him, some would have said we shouldn't be buying cast offs from Chelsea. I saw those kind of comments when we were linked with their other centre back Chalobah over the summer.

When Akanji joins Man City for £15 million from Dortmund at the age of 27, no one raved about it or considered him any kind of world beater. It wasn't the typical monster fee they've spent on some of their other centre backs, but he's been as good as all of the others, and was a big part of their treble last season. When Liverpool signed Matip on a free I remember us being linked at the time as well, was he a world beater then? He ended up performing at a pretty high level alongside Van Dijk.

I've seen Kelly linked with Liverpool, Spurs, Newcastle, Juventus and AC Milan. Tosin has been linked with Spurs, Man Utd and  Newcastle.

Both of these guys are going to be taking a step up next season and it's going to be very interesting watching their progress, because I think they are better than just squad filler ability wise.

4 hours ago, Ikon said:

I don’t think I want Kelly at all. I guess it depends on what kind of room we have when it comes to spending. Would prefer to not sign too much “dead wood” . Prefer to get top quality or very young players with massive potential. But yeah, ffp…

Why is Kelly dead wood? Crikey 

Why are players from smaller clubs always looked down upon this way man?

Anyway, let's see if he comes in, then we'll see what he does. I think there will be some backtracking yet again.

It's the same way both Gordon and Barnes were vastly underestimated on here when we signed both, but we've seen a very different reality.

When Liverpool were signing the likes of Robertson and Henderson that ended up being such significant pieces for them in their first team, same thing.

17 minutes ago, andycap said:

If forest went down would anyone take wood back? He used to always be available to take the burden of our main two strikers so they healed up better. 

His general play was too poor for what we need unfortunately, so just wouldn't work for us.

What a week to captain Palmer, my goodness. Also have Isak and Gordon too. Big week.

1 minute ago, The Bonk said:

 

From Pickford on, they've all been utter wank. 

It's 2024, and Dyche has played Young on the right wing this whole game.

Just to spam crosses into the box from deep because he's never going by anyone. 

Pretty diabolical stuff.

Just now, The Bonk said:

 

Fair and maybe he takes a backseat to Palmer in this squad of egomaniacs. 

I can't vouch for the man's character that's for sure.

Man, this is a disgrace for Dyche.

5 minutes ago, NE27 said:

 

It's a yes from me mind.

2 minutes ago, Erikse said:

 

Well, to be fair, he needed that penalty goal so that his stats can mask how bad he is.. Actually quite incredible that he has 10 goals, but mainly because of the worst hat trick in PL history.

 

 

 

Every game I watch he's so involved in a lot of their play going forward. I like him, but he's still considered to be shit by so many, it's interesting.

Linked well with Palmer for that first goal, Palmers second comes from the rebound off his shot, set up Mudryk brilliantly just now. Guy is everywhere causing problems.

3 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

Didn’t he play in a 2 at Udinese, a more pact player next to him? Got no idea why Everton signed him and decided to play him on his own.

Yes, he played with Deloufeu dropping off him.

He's really someone you want to get the ball to in space or in behind. Like his goal against us in transition, where he got on the ball , stiff armed Schar and scored.

Think Dyche has just seen his size and thought he could use as him as a lump upfront, but he's not a hold up striker or back to goal guy like that.

So let's talk about Nicholas Jackson, another 'donkey' striker. Still considered shit too?

1 minute ago, cubaricho said:

Beto is such a donkey. Who was it on here that used to wax poetic about him?  

I'll say it again, I liked him at Udinese a lot. In better circumstances a far more effective striker than he has shown at Everton.

Just now, Erikse said:

Honeslty Jackson should let Palmer take it, considering that he's competing for the golden boot? I'd assume that Palmer is supposed to be the taker. So Jackson tries to rob him of it to make him look better?

 

 

 

Yeah, the penalty taker should just take the penalties, especially when the guy hasn't ever missed one.

The one time he let Sterling take one instead, the plonker went and missed.