Ronaldo

rubbish, he's miles behind Joe Cole and Ashley Young for starters. Walcott and SWP are also more effective

Hope this is wrapped up today or tomorrow tbh

in a word, yes

how's that worrying? He's been our best player since he signed for us, Exactly. Anyone giving Martins grief can f*** off. Lets sell him for 10m and buy 4 players for 2m eh? That would be fuckin class. He;s comfortably our best player once Shay goes. I'm talking about the player that will win us the most points. He's absolutely indispensable and he's massively underrated by nearly all our fans. Correction: he's massively under-rated by a section of beard strokers who are keen to point out he's as thick as mince while ignoring the fact that most of our attackers couldn't punch their way out of a paper bag. Where is Gemmill these days? Don't really post much any more if you hadn't noticed. Martins is still not good enough though - the fact that his stock has risen even with me is indicative of how far we've fallen, not how good he is. The fact that we likely can't and won't sign better these days is a function of how poorly the club is being run, not of any improvement in his ability. When he gets back in the side, he'll be better than most of the other strikers we have, but his touch will still be s****, he'll still give the ball away a lot, and he'll still demonstrate a lack of basic football intelligence. If any of that makes me a beard stroker (amazing insult btw), then so be it. We miss Martins at the minute, but only because of how s*** our alternatives are, not how good he is. Seems to me you all but admit to that in your post anyway. you do realise the effect and importance of pace in the modern game don't you? Yes dear. I also realise how largely ineffective Martins' pace is because of his pea-sized brain. racist. funny you say that, crossed my mind before actually Pretty outrageous accusation just because someone doesn't think a player is very good, and just because that player happens to be black. I think Bassong's good btw. How does that fit in with your f***ed up take on things? Wasn't it you that tried to play the racist card once before then came over all OMG CAN'T YOU TAKE A JOKE!!!11 hmm, what's your take on Geremi?

yeah, like Ashley had £2b to lose in the first place, what a load of s**** as for the highlighted bit, jesus

how's that worrying? He's been our best player since he signed for us, Exactly. Anyone giving Martins grief can f*** off. Lets sell him for 10m and buy 4 players for 2m eh? That would be fuckin class. He;s comfortably our best player once Shay goes. I'm talking about the player that will win us the most points. He's absolutely indispensable and he's massively underrated by nearly all our fans. Correction: he's massively under-rated by a section of beard strokers who are keen to point out he's as thick as mince while ignoring the fact that most of our attackers couldn't punch their way out of a paper bag. Where is Gemmill these days? Don't really post much any more if you hadn't noticed. Martins is still not good enough though - the fact that his stock has risen even with me is indicative of how far we've fallen, not how good he is. The fact that we likely can't and won't sign better these days is a function of how poorly the club is being run, not of any improvement in his ability. When he gets back in the side, he'll be better than most of the other strikers we have, but his touch will still be s****, he'll still give the ball away a lot, and he'll still demonstrate a lack of basic football intelligence. If any of that makes me a beard stroker (amazing insult btw), then so be it. We miss Martins at the minute, but only because of how s*** our alternatives are, not how good he is. Seems to me you all but admit to that in your post anyway. you do realise the effect and importance of pace in the modern game don't you? Yes dear. I also realise how largely ineffective Martins' pace is because of his pea-sized brain. racist. funny you say that, crossed my mind before actually

A player with a 1 in 2 record this season is not good enough for us? Absolutely unbelievable. It's a hell of a litmus test to identify the complete cretins at the game, ask them what they think of Oba

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When are we allowed to say he's not been good enough? When he's gone in the summer having been relegated as the most expensive defender in the club's history? The lad needs a season in a normally funtioning team, not this shower of s****. Who was the last defender a club paid £10m for who needed 12 months to settle in? His weaknesses, being getting turned, physical weakness & appalling defending when forwards are attacking the ball into the box, aren't anything that will be fixed by having time to settle. He needs to start looking like a good defender now. Errr...Vidic? tbh Liam's argument is flawed anyway as it's fair to say that most teams in a position to spend £10m on a defender generally have a decent enough midfield in place

said it about 3 weeks back that Wise would be manager before march

voted 5 a while back, at least a 7 now

our team on saturday will probably be the worst seen since 1993 tbh

Refering to our owner and manager

The radio are a fucking disgrace like, blaming Harper for Bellamy's goal yet Given could literally head the ball into his own net and not get any criticism cunts

£15-£20M for Given and N'zogbia would keep us up if it was spent. Yet here we are approaching the 29th of January. These cunts really should hang their heads in shame.

When are we allowed to say he's not been good enough? When he's gone in the summer having been relegated as the most expensive defender in the club's history? The lad needs a season in a normally funtioning team, not this shower of s****. Who was the last defender a club paid £10m for who needed 12 months to settle in? His weaknesses, being getting turned, physical weakness & appalling defending when forwards are attacking the ball into the box, aren't anything that will be fixed by having time to settle. He needs to start looking like a good defender now. I quite agree. But in all honestly I can think of very very few continental defenders who'd look like £10m players in this team.

When are we allowed to say he's not been good enough? When he's gone in the summer having been relegated as the most expensive defender in the club's history? The lad needs a season in a normally funtioning team, not this shower of s****. if bassong can play well in this team why can't colo? Colo has performed well this season, he's also played badly

When are we allowed to say he's not been good enough? When he's gone in the summer having been relegated as the most expensive defender in the club's history? The lad needs a season in a normally funtioning team, not this shower of s****.

He's had 5 months in the premier league, 3 different managers, 2 completely out of their depth. He's played alongside only 2 competent defenders in that entire time, a keeper who cant organise and a totally non-existent midfield let's give the guy a break. He's hasn't looked like a £10m defender but he hasn't looked like Taylor, Ramage or Boumsong either

Keegan's biggest mistake was either selling Faye or making Owen captain. A captain is supposed to be the soul and drive of the team, his workrate, general effectiveness and commitment are all very poor, wish we'd got rid a while back. cunt

Morale, how can there be any when out of our 3 most senior players, 2 want to leave and the other is absolute shite

Coloccini as Wullie said is the least of our worries. Him and Bassong have looked good in defence, it's the woeful midfield and attack that needs to be looked at first. Ball retention starts there. There's precisely none in our team

simply hasn't got the pace for the premiership unfortunley will defo leave end of the season imo Give me 10 of the best premiership central defenders and I'll bet Colo's as quick or quicker than half of them. Pace isn't essential for a CB if they read the game well, and tackle well. Colo just needs to fine tune his game to the premiership tbh, he's playing in a shite team atm and played out of position tonight. You really cant expect him to thrive under these circumstances.

how's that worrying? He's been our best player since he signed for us

Those who prefered him to Avram Grant, honestly. That said, this mess we're in isn't down to him or his mismanagement by a long shot