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Was he choosing to punch that to try and start a counter attack? Didn't seem to make sense at all

Pitch looks massive

Not a pen, but understandable VAR didn’t overturn

Nothing wrong at all there

It's weird cos we've always been one of the best/worst for standing away. Everyone stands away without fail, that hasn't been the case for all clubs. We were getting punishments like ticket reductions and no alcohol because of it 15 or so years ago.

Cool video. I went there when

I don’t know anyone who’s stopped being a fan over it, but I know numerous match going fans who harbour discomfort over it. (I’d be in that group myself when I move back)

Why would you tackle like that when you need to stop the clock running down

Not having a go (and don't want to derail too much ) but the idea of 'there are only being a few races' is a highly outdated 19th century idea. You hear it proliferated so understandable its repeated. There are basically an infinite number of races, determined by how people are perceived and treated, cos it's not grounded in real biological categories. Right i'm off again.

Agree for the family area, but otherwise this is already the case at away games (everyone standing in seats). I was going to away games at his age (late 90s) and I stood on my chair and absolutely loved the atmosphere it created, would've hated people sitting. Still didn't have the best view, I'd sometimes get picked up for penalties and that, didn't really impact my enjoyment. Not every kid is going to like it, and there should be room for both in a home game, of course people who can't stand too. But just saying it's a trade off and kids can also benefit from the improved atmosphere too.

One thing that makes me think there has been a change even post-expansion is the reaction to shitness in the Souness-Roeder era to the Pardew-McClaren era - i.e. during the Ashley era. I remember when we lost a game we shouldn't have in that earlier era SJP was a fucking horrible place to be. It was so toxic. People were raging. Sheffield United under Roeder for example. I felt uncomfortable just being there. That tendency wasn't always good but it was at least borne out of a passion. That seemed to disappear over the years. I remember being at the Liverpool 0-6, and 0-1 with the mackems (3rd home defeat to them in a row) in particular and couldn't believe the comparative passiveness from the crowd at proper horrendous results, and not in isolation. Now I don't want people raging at our players now, but that seemed to tell me something had been lost in our crowd in terms of passion under Ashley, and maybe that doesn't come back so easily even as things turn around. Or maybe I'm talking shite and that's irrelevant to our situation now.

I thought I remembered Juve and Kiev (03) being decent atmospheres, as we gained some hope of going through. Could just be remembering the buzz around the goals and that though. Remember Feyernord as flat. I was back for ManU home the other season, early Howe when we were still in the relegation zone, 1-1 with an ASM goal. It was one of the best atmospheres in memory (going back to mid 90s). Roaring players on to close down. There was that siege feeling.

Aye pretty sure it was for a period before the expansion

Half his twitter is promoting Fury's fight in Saudi Arabia.

Yeah. It's fair enough questioning the ticketing policy and how to get the people who really care in, but I don't think these lack of atmospheres can really be blamed on that.

You could hear it at the telly when Pope punched it shortly after they scored. It wasn't a reactive gasp or groan, it was a quick barrage of people shouting-complaining.

See what you're saying but the best noise comes from the roar, not clapping imo, and the display should do nothing to stop that.

Did the novelty of the CL really wear off so quickly? My dad was in his usual Gallowgate seat and said it was flat there too. Behind the goal, 1/3 up, more to west side.

Lovely free kick when Wilson hit the bar

That was strange. Both the players and crowd seemed shellshocked by being behind, which is a bit strange considering. Then came alive in last ten.

Do people not know the backpass rule

Our fans sometimes man. We can be great, but the audible anger so quickly after it turns and someone makes a mistake (e.g. there when Pope punched it)

Why was he in so much space?

Close - D Peacock left in 98.

He only played 21 games that season. Must've been some sort of statement about how shit we were.