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I don't know if you've noticed, we're in a bit of trouble at the moment, and having to take whatever we can whilst we're without a manager. What kind of tactics did you adopt in managing to lose at home to Wigan Athletic? We adopted the right tactics but played like morons and deservedly lost. You lot used the same damn tactics last season too tbh. Oh, that's a shame, did you resort to that lumping it long to Crouchy stuff again? I woudn't fancy watching that. Mind you, maybe I'm just tetchy about it, as I actually go to the games, which would make it even more annoying for me, rather than just flouncing around the internet, preaching on football purity whilst ignoring the predictable long ball guff my own team falls back on a bit too much. Incidentally, if you think it is a conscious tactic to cede the lion share of possession at home to Everton, you're insane. As you are if you think there should have been some gigantic change of style since MON flounced off. This is still O'Neill's team. I'm sure that, were we Spurs, we'd have turned into Brazil 1970 by now, but hey ho.

I don't know if you've noticed, we're in a bit of trouble at the moment, and having to take whatever we can whilst we're without a manager. What kind of tactics did you adopt in managing to lose at home to Wigan Athletic?

Heard KM on the radio on the way back from the match today. Sounded very much like he's ruling himself out. Exciting match today. Gave Everton way too much of the ball, but they didn't muster up many attempts on goal. I like the way Moyes gets his teams working, though. I fancy them to have a very good season. I can't help observe that, but for all the "they're fucked" nonsense in the media, and despite our iffy start to the season, we seem to be fourth this evening. Only three games in, but i think it should possibly put some of the media histrionics in context.

agreed, but also, tbf he IS on newcastle united forum literally days after newcastle united batter the team he supports. He kind of brought it on himself even being here really! I've been here for ages, I've heard it all before. I did hide for a week, mind.

I'm not worried so much as angry, to be honest, Skeletor. I'm angry that O'Neill could not have picked a worse time to leave, and I suspect he knew that. That leaves a bitter taste. I've no idea who will get it. I'd like them to go after Jol, given the choice. I said after the West Ham game - when, and I know West Ham are shite, we played better football than we have at home for two years, that it looked like the shackles had been taken off. I want someone who will play like that, but with some tactical nous. Kevin Mac has shown in the last two games that whilst he's a decent coach, he isn't a manager. You played well against us, but really, Petrov and Ireland in a midfield two? That's asking for it. It is a nightmare scenario changing manager at this point, it really is that difficult, but the chairman hasn't let us down in the last four years, and I'm happy to give him the benefit of the doubt now, he has earned it.

Randy Lerner is in the situation that his manager packed it in without warning five days before the start of the season, and three weeks before the end of the window. It's hard to see how you can make a good appointment in that time period. Also, in completing the Milner deal, we took Ireland as a big part of it. Hardly the actions of someone who is all about the cash. Ireland may have been part of the deal but it was hardly paramount. I think Man City were actually more happy getting rid of him to lower their numbers than you were in getting him. Not to mention Ireland was laughably bad vs us, and a pykie, and a caravan owner. Nice bit of casual racism there. What does what Man City wanted have to do with it? Lerner took him in part exchange in the deal. I would have thought that a chairman who is all about the money (and trust me, we know to spot one of those down here) would have been dealing in cash only. I tend not to write players off after one game, as it happens, so I think I'll give him a bit more time than that to settle.

Randy Lerner is in the situation that his manager packed it in without warning five days before the start of the season, and three weeks before the end of the window. It's hard to see how you can make a good appointment in that time period. Also, in completing the Milner deal, we took Ireland as a big part of it. Hardly the actions of someone who is all about the cash. I know there's not a lot of great managers out there at the minute but 3 weeks is plenty of time to appoint a new manager and allow him to get some players in before the end of the window. I don't think so. And we have had a player in before the end of the window, Ireland. What is double annoying is that MON walked at just the time we're used to him finally remembering that the transfer window closes, and starts doing business. He had a meeting with Lerner on the Saturday, which went fine, they talked about transfer moves / the impending season, Lerner flew back to the US, got back and received a phone call saying O'Neill had quit. How can be expected to swat off turmoil like that? When you give the manager total free reign to run the club - which MON had - and he walks out, it is doubly difficult. We could have gone out and appointed someone just to fill the post immediately, but that would be the stupid thing to do. I'm glad they're taking their time. I want them to get it right. It's too easy to knee jerk and appoint some spacker. Despite how much some people on this thread clearly want it to happen, there isn't any evidence it is going to. The squad is hardly relegation material. We can easily do ok between now and January.

Of course it is unlikely. Incidentally if Man City fail to win at Sunderland tomorrow, Birmingham draw and we beat Everton, we're fourth. This is a testing time, and last week was horrible, but I'm not going to commit hari kiri just yet.

Randy Lerner is in the situation that his manager packed it in without warning five days before the start of the season, and three weeks before the end of the window. It's hard to see how you can make a good appointment in that time period. Also, in completing the Milner deal, we took Ireland as a big part of it. Hardly the actions of someone who is all about the cash.

Come down from what? He was asked to do something about the wage bill, to move a few players on - like every single manager in the league has to, bar Mancini - for the first time in four years, he was asked not to just spend unfettered. There's also a contradiction in "well, MON has left, he did such a good job, they're going to disintegrate now" when you think that it is his squad we have. So, he did such a great job, yet what he built in four years is so fragile it falls apart in a few weeks? Hmmm. MON wanted to buy Aiden McGeady for 10m. To be quite honest, I'd have thrown Lerner's wallet in the canal to stop him sanctioning that.

The turnout was shocking? The atmosphere was poor? What did you expect for a Europa League knock out game? River Plate - Boca Juniors? And 30,000 is hardly dreadful is it? Far from a full house, but better, I observe, than Man City with their 23k. Some of the stuff on this thread is legendary. "A few duff results and they'll have sub 20k attendances". Yes, yes, of course we will. It can only be a matter of days before we start to hear that Lerner's selling the ground to build a casino, and we've applied to join the Conference.

If your last 2 performances are to go by you wont. If the two before that are anything to go by, we certainly will. Two iffy performances in a row? It's hardly Leeds United is it. End of the day, we got tonked by you, played well against Rapid for 70 minutes then imploded. To read some of the media coverage, you'd think we'd gone into freefall. It isn't even September. The football media in this country truly are a pack of mongs. Two week break coming up. Get the manager sorted in that spell and get the right man in, and we'll be more than OK. And as for the "well, they'll probably have to appoint Les Reed" nonsense, this is a club which has finished sixth for the last three seasons, and has had a benevolent, munificent billionaire owner, widely regarded as amongst the best in the league. We've got some very good players, and a very good set up. Like I said, it's hardly meltdown.

Nope its not, its been mentioned on here a fair few times. Jacqui Oatley would get it as well. She certainly would. It would be one occasion I'd forgive her her excited squealing, too. I'd do Celia Hinchliffe as well.

Is it wrong to find that annoying bint on this championship programme really quite fuckable? I think it might be a grudge fuck, mind. Taking it out on the BBC.

We'll beat Everton on Sunday. Convincingly, too. Just you watch.

I'm having the BEST week ever.

That Gareth Bale is going to get himself a move to a big club sooner rather than later.

Albrighton had a fantastic pre-season the summer before last, but then didn't get used in the season. If MON was still here, we'd probably have wasted 10m on McGeady and Albrighton wouldn't get a look-in. He's very promising, though.

Well I started to type this sort of response than.. well thought you know what.. some would aye but not as far as Villa went with us. When you say "as far as Villa went with us", you're referring to two banners, so two people, plus the usual gloating you'd have got at every single other ground in the league, had it happened there? Personally, I think banner making is a bit smalltime, but then again, I think overreacting to it is a bit smalltime as well. Shit happens, what's the point remaining bitter about it?

It is indeed. Unfortunately.

As I said at the time, the time to worry is when you get relegated and nobody bats an eyelid. To suggest there is some sort of niggly rivalry is a bit daft, to be honest.

It is UNLIKELY, not impossible, but unlikely that there will be fuckloads of songs sung during the game referring to their relegation, 3-4 banners taking the piss and some of our fans staying 10-15 mins after the game gloating. I think you'll find the reason they stayed back at the end of the game was more to do with the lap of honour, what with it being last game of the season, that to gloat, mate.

stop it man.. you will make yourself ill can't see him doing that bad (i'm in the "i don't see downing as being anything special" camp),much more concerned about ireland and young. Downing was cack last season. Rubbish. I'd put it down to him missing the first half through injury, making the move from Boro, out of comfort zone, all that. Whether or not that was true, it is too early to tell, but he played very well indeed on Saturday. Incidentally, West Ham were beyond awful. Well worth a few quid to go down. No shape, no idea, and worst of all, no spirit.

Delph. Looked really good when given a chance last year, but then did his cruciate. Back in the new year.

Young will probably play behind Carew (assuming Gabby unfit still). Cuellar is probably going to be fit, so I would suspect: Friedel Luke Young Cuellar Dunne Warnock Albrighton Ireland Petrov Downing Young Carew Looks a bit lightweight in the middle, mind. Lots of players left at home for tomorrow's trip to Vienna, mind, which suggests where our priorities are. I don't know why we bother, really, but hey ho. No Cuellar, Luke Young, Carew, Gabby, Dunne, or Petrov This fixture always seems to get played on a weekday evening or a fucking lunchtime. Annoying.