Wandy

Yep. And there is no way they will lose the 115 case now. They will simply nuke the entire league if it doesn't go their way. I love how savage they are being with the PL, it's great to see.

Can someone do a link to a readable version of this Martin Samuel article? https://www.thetimes.com/sport/football/article/manchester-city-unlawful-legal-martin-samuel-cv7l7x72v#:~:text=Wrapped up in legalese is,may wish to spin it. Edit : found one.... https://archive.ph/NndOh

Generally speaking I like his videos but when it comes to the SJP debate he is such an insufferable smart arse. I will piss myself laughing if we do relocate into a part of Leazes Park when he has said it will never happen. He has said he will close his YouTube account if it does happen. Somehow I think he will find wriggle room for that not to happen. I’d also love to know how he believes the Bondibot ‘Option 3’ to be nothing more than a “fantasy”.

That’s what I meant though. Your illustration has a stadium with a bigger footprint than the one shown by ponsaelius. Anyway, thinking about it logically, if the club have had discussions with the relevant authorities it is more likely to theorise a new vision of the 1997 proposal, rather than something like on that Bondibot video.

It hasn’t. Take some measurements if you don’t believe me. Not saying a stadium couldn’t be put there but it would need a bigger footprint than the one hypothesised in this illustration.

Remember though, it’s NUFC who get all the luck, according to RTG.

This hypothetical illustration is a nonsense too I’m afraid. The “new’ stadium that has been plonked there on Castle Leazes has a smaller footprint even than SJP in it’s current guise, never mind putting a new stadium on there with a much bigger footprint.

It would be a lot easier to get NUFC fans to the SoL than you might think. The stadium is on the opposite side of the river to the city centre, therefore the police could just barricade any access to the other side of the river where all of the bars and shops are. The stadium itself is an easy journey down the A19 and along Wessington Way, so straight in and straight out without fuss. This idea that the area would be a battleground is a total nonsense. The first few matches there might be a handful of wannabe hoolies but once the novelty wears off it would be a non event.

I can see them finding a way around those issues. As everyone now knows, the park is absolutely goosed and need serious money thrown at it for it to be renovated.

Photos ripped from that youtube video from a few months ago, but this is definitely how you hold on to a piece of the current footprint and thus keep the SJP purists happy.

I think their fans would swiftly come round to the idea if we handed £25m per season to them. It would secure their FFP status for years.

Or a rebuild that takes up some of the existing footprint and also a partial footprint on the park.

I know that the idea has been rubbished on here, but I could genuinely see us ground sharing with SAFC for at least one season. They are skint & Louis-Dreyfus could definitely be persuaded to allow it if the financial incentive is significant enough. A Mackem on RTG has posted about hearing a rumour that we have discussed it with them already. A two year ground share apparently.

There is no way that any kind of rebuild on the current SJP site gives a stadium with a 70k capacity. For that reason alone it must surely be new stadium on a new site. Man Utd are going to have a new stadium with at least 80k and Liverpool have the potential to do something similar. But we are going to spend £1bn+ to build a stadium that is then locked in forever at the 60/65k mark? I'd be staggered if that was the plan.

Maybe the cost would involve filling in the current Metro tunnel, rerouting it and building a new St James' station, perhaps where the Stack now is. It's still not worth spending the money on that though for an extra 10k seats that will still not meet the demand for tickets and also make the stadium atmosphere even worse.