Kaizero

It's not the point. I'm not comparing England to Norway as it's an unfair comparison. I'm saying England aren't doing anything right when it's rather obvious how to do it if you look to the countries that have experience. Which is what you apparently did last year when your government sent a delegation out here to learn about how to be prepared for snow, but I don't think you've learnt anything. I'm not saying you need to be like Norway. I'm just saying anything is better than what is currently going on.

I'm not poking fun. I'm just seriously amazed by how you year after year tend to never learn anything.

It wouldn't, though. That's what I'm saying. It really wouldn't. It's surprisingly inexpensive to be prepared contra not being prepared. Basically just adding a task to already exisiting jobs and maintaining a decent enough stock of grinders would see the cost of maintaining said grinders be less expensive than the cost of hell breaking loose every time it snows more than five centimetres. But that's the point, we don't normally get more than 5cm of snow. This our worst November for snow/bad weather since 1993, why be constantly prepared for something that happens once every 20 years? Inexpensive or not, it's pointless spending. Not when you consider the effects caused by the bad weather (when it happens) having a ripple effect on businesses and other institutions that probably amounts to million losses for the government and the private sector. If this money was invested in preparation... you catch my drift. It would not be pointless spending when it would in the long run save you money. I may not be good at math, but even I understand that. For all years you don't experience snowy winters it'd be "pointless spending", but it'd make up for it in abundance the winters you get snow.

We've apparently spent more money than you on war equipment over the last decade for some fucked up reason. I remember it being on the news when we bought some of those jet bombers or whatever it's called.

It wouldn't, though. That's what I'm saying. It really wouldn't. It's surprisingly inexpensive to be prepared contra not being prepared. Basically just adding a task to already exisiting jobs and maintaining a decent enough stock of grinders would see the cost of maintaining said grinders be less expensive than the cost of hell breaking loose every time it snows more than five centimetres.

More like you English need to man up and get on with it. It's not natural for your country to come to a complete stop with just a tiny bit of snow. If it was a lot of snow, sure, you're not used to it. But for things to go mental from the amount I've seen you have at the moment is just silly even if I'm a Norwegian and used to snow or not. I wasn't even joking! You were talking sense. It happens every year and it's never dealt with. I thought you were joking. It's really not something that's overly expensive. We, Norway, don't spend too much money on this shit. You'd imagine you'd not spend too much money on it with just training some people and having enough grinders on standby should it happen. It's fairly simple to assume that the cost would be less when being prepared than when not.

This is why: http://gfx.dagbladet.no/labrador/543/543254/5432549/jpg/active/320x.jpg (you will notice the match was still played)

More like you English need to man up and get on with it. It's not natural for your country to come to a complete stop with just a tiny bit of snow. If it was a lot of snow, sure, you're not used to it. But for things to go mental from the amount I've seen you have at the moment is just silly even if I'm a Norwegian and used to snow or not. What would you consider deep in Scandinavia? Theres 11 inches of snow on the grass at the moment and more to come overnight. That for me isn't a tiny bit of snow. 11 inch We are cooler though, don't you worry I like how he's saying it like it's a lot of snow.

More like you English need to man up and get on with it. It's not natural for your country to come to a complete stop with just a tiny bit of snow. If it was a lot of snow, sure, you're not used to it. But for things to go mental from the amount I've seen you have at the moment is just silly even if I'm a Norwegian and used to snow or not.

year after year ? it's usually very isolated. we do have some preperation but for what we normally get. what happens though is that the powers that be are also concerned about the 40,000 plus and there making there way to the ground. on second thoughts whose job is it to do it ? or more to the point who pays ? It's either the government or the private sector. I don't know how you guys have decided to handle this yonks ago.

You really don't need much to be prepared for some snow, it's not like you'd need to employ tons of people specifically for the off chance there might be snowy weather. You just need to teach a few of your already employed road workers how to deal with snowy conditions, and obviously stock enough gritters. It's also rather obvious that having some kind of preparation for this would save money compared to what you have to do when you year after year go all "wtf? snow? lol". It's a shit excuse.

Yes it can. You guys just really, really suck at doing it. Well we usually don't get much of this bad weather. Therefore we plan for the average. If we got really bad weather a lot of the time then more emphasis would be put on it. If each local council had 50 gritters and 100 men employed on standby throughout the winter, then we had 4 or 5 mild winters in a row I can imagine the newspaper stories about spendthrift council mandarins wasting money having uneccesary men and trucks on standby! Featuring the second jobs of the gritter drivers and how they sleep all night etc etc!! They'd not need to be employed just for something like that, you just need to teach a few road workers how to do shit when it's snowy and then just pay them extra when they need to be called out during conditions like you have now. You don't need to have people employed only to do one task, just teach the ones you have employed how to do a task they may or may not have to do a few times a year.

Yes it can. You guys just really, really suck at doing it.

My mum was one goal away from £50k. My mum. My mum. I don't think I've been this embarrassed (that she thoroughly beat me betting wise) and angry (that she didn't actually get £50k due to one fucking Wolves goal in the 89th minute) at the same time.

I fucking hate Wolves.

So, my mum, who has no idea about anything football related in general just won £500 on a thing we have in Norway where you bet on 12 games on a coupon she delivered on a whim. Only a draw in the Wolves v Sunderland match away from £50k

The keyboard died a little. I actually feel pretty damn bad for you. It honestly felt like my world fell apart there, so close. SO CLOSE MAN!

Who'd have thought Bolton - Blackpool would once end up being such an entertaining match?

The keyboard died a little.

Bolton fucks me out of 1k. Yay.

Same here.

£35 on Blackpool and West Brom @ 34.50.

Don't worry guys, the results will not stay like this as that would mean I'd win something. Nailed on draws. http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/7209/lolzaroo.png

Better a queer with gloves playing in snow than a queer not playing at all.

Real men.