timnufc22

Well, it would be if he wasn't complicit in them Ian, but let's overlook that. I'm confused. How do you know he's complicit in them? Err.......Because he's still here. If he wasn't complicit in them why the f*** would he stay? He's lost 48% of last seasons goals, a solid captain and the promise of the AC money being re-invested. If he wasn't complicit do you think he would stay? Not to mention the bullshit he's pedalling about bore holes and the missing £35m. I personally believe his job description to be first team coach (i.e. the footballing side) and as Golfmag suggested, he probably has a remit to reduce the wage bill (and buy cheaper players with big sell on values). On paper, that is something I don't have a problem with. I don't believe, however, that Pardew in an ideal world would have wanted Barton, Jose, Carroll and Nolan to go. I just think he has little say over which players are the ones to go. If you want to blame that on him, then that's your right, but personally I find that over the top. What you need to ask yourself, though is, every manager from now on will be working under the same job description... that much is clear. So by that reckoning, will you hate every manager we have in charge under this regime from now on? If so, you may as well give up now. From a footballing point of view, I don't see what he has done so wrong. I pretty much agree with that top bit apart from I think he has no say at all more or less on players and thats left to Carr/Dekka. The majority of bad feeling on here mind comes from the way he was linked with the job way before Hughton was binned and was a pretty leftfield appointment at the best of times & that s*** sticks and rightfully so IMO. Yeah I understand that, and if you look back through my posts to that time, I was annoyed too... but I'm just trying to judge him on the job he's done, which has been OK in my eyes. I just find it hard to blame episodes like todays on him. And I do believe he genuinely wanted to keep all said players...but it's not in his control. Part of the point though, is that he does talk a good game. And some would say doing a good job in his and Ashley's eyes consists of stringing the fans along with that smooth talk. If he knew one of the conditions was to be ok with the wage bill getting trimmed, and generally signing players at low cost, then talking about re-investing the 35m would be knowingly stringing the fans along.

He never really had a reputation to worry about. Like I said earlier, his career was in the doldrums before the fat scumbag gave him his ticket back to the big time. Aye dont get me wrong, he's not got the repuation as a top quality manager or anything, though he did show some good signs at West Ham, and I think this job was going to swing things one way or the other as to how people in general rate him. Maybe we'll sign a few players yet, but the wage bill story sounds very close to the mark when you look at how, for example, he seems perfectly accepting that we've not re-invested the money from player sales.

When he arrived he said he was going to be the voice of the fans, and banging on Mike's door for investment; he saw that as a big part of his. In January he said "The only positive I can give Newcastle fans is every penny will be re-invested into the team, Mike has assured me and I believe him". Now, after spending 500k, he's saying "People dont realise we've spent a lot of money to get these players in (Ba, Marvaux & Cabaye)"... That does look like leading the fans down a garden path dosent it? Its fairly big u-turn in the space of 4 months. I was convinced when he was appointed it was purley a 'jobs for the boys' decision, and Hughton was starting to 'demand' too much, trying push the club on. But hearing him talk I thought maybe he's just been really niave, and actually thinks he can do what other's couldnt - get Ashley to back him. But to me, and canny obvious now he was always happy to tow the line for Ashley from day 1, and accept whatever stupid decisions are made. Its also obvious he did know about the job months before (not days before, as he said in his press conference) with him becoming favourite to replace Hughton around October, thats such a random name to be favourite at the time there's got to be something in that, throw in golfmags claims too. Its a bit of a tricky situation because his repuation as a football manager is on the line, something I think he wants to prove at the same time, but juggling that with accepting whatever Ashley does is becoming harder & harder.

He's a really good talker, and actually not as bad a manager as some make out imo, but boy is his credibility and influence as manager looking worse & worse each passing day. For whatever reason, he's going to accept anything Ashley & Llambias do, and the spot-light should be put on him a bit more by the media in terms of how little influence he clearly has, and why.

“Mike Ashley hasn’t told me how much I’ve got to spend, he made it clear when Andy [Carroll] went that that money will be reinvested in the squad and I have no doubt that it will be." Hmmmm.

Because we should be building on what we've got, and building up the squad, competiton for places. Of course Nolan could have played plenty of games next season imo, injuries/suspensions/form... If we had to sell him to free some funds from his wage then that dosent sound promosing finanically.

well said It's true. It's always the same group of people who try desperately to twist everything into negativity. Can be very tiresome. Try to find any moaning from me regarding Nolan. There is none. And we salute you Mr. Lets face it, Nolan is a average player. And in general play contributes little to our play. He happen to score 12 goals and someone had to drink p*ss. But i doubt he will score 12 next season, and then he is a passenger imo. We need more dynamic players, and strikers that scores for us. Don`t get me wrong, i love the man to death as a person. But for the club to evolve, we need better players. And when these better players are injured, Ryan Taylor will fill in. Hurray. Guthrie, Gosling? They way some people are going on here, its like we sold Messi to Kazakhstan for 2 bucks and a used toothpick. I will come back here 1 sept and admit i was wrong, and that we are f***ed if we do not have decent cover at the end of the window. As there is NO excuse for us not have a young decent up and coming squad next season. I just rest my case until the window is over, then i make my verdict. Nothing more we can do now, right? Guthrie and Gosling? That's progress alright, real strength in depth. So you want to give Nolan a 5y contract? 50k(?) a week? To add depth? f***ing hell man, are you daft? We should be looking to bring 1-2 young promising cm`s then, do give us depth. Players who will develop and be better players, not some retirement home. This is my opinion, but if Nolan was not happy with his contract, who have 2 more years left. Then he can go. I hate to say it, but why should we extend it? Rather use the money to invest in some prospects then. Is there only two options like? Give him a 5 year deal or sell immediately? I absolutely despair. Exactly, whether he leaves in 2 years or not, theres no reason to sell him now when he's an important player.

Aye, dont give him a massive 5yr contract, but that dont sell him when he has 2yrs left!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IbdZNvl_vM Cabaye man, Cabaye Cabaye man

They'll either ask you to name somehwere else other than L4 or dump you somewhere random themselves, so I'd get onto them and tell them you want the SE Corner if you want to stay with the same group. Cheers bud. Would I be able to do it over the phone or would I have to go over with my receipt? Im not 100% sure mate, by the sounds of it you should be able to do it over the phone. I'd get a row nearer the back too.

They'll either ask you to name somehwere else other than L4 or dump you somewhere random themselves, so I'd get onto them and tell them you want the SE Corner if you want to stay with the same group.

If that bastard comes out complaining of abusive chanting towards our 'saviour'... It dosent matter what they say, United For Newcastle have put their statement out there, their shambolic treatment is self explanatory, the only important thing now is spreading the word about the SE Corner and pissing them two off the first game of the season when they take their seats and it dawns on them they havent split most of us up.

They've strung everyone along when L4 was put to them, saying they'd be looking at it, trying to find a place for us to re-locate, first priority etc, and then rang everyone saying you cant have a season ticket in L4 as it is now a non-season ticket area. Was really looking forward to it aswell, but we are re-locating to the SE Corner instead, and need to get the word out as much as possible. We can still have most fans from L7 together if we work together, and can still make it a blessing in disguise - lower down, any atmosphere might spread more etc. If getting a season ticket is a problem you can always get general sale tickets in SE Corner instead, find out exactly which block you'd prefer to be that way, just as long as we stick together.

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/5903/gallowgateend.th.jpg Uploaded with ImageShack.us Thats roughly which block is which, I'd love that area to look like what Leazes L7 looked liked this season.

Don't worry, a lot of fans are moving here. Trying to give this move momentum. Exactly, we can easily still turn this into a positive, imagine his face first game of the season when he takes his seat and opposite him the SE Corner is full of fans standing, singing, still together & not backing down. Stick together, if we have the numbers (3,000 from Leazes corner) we have the power, spread the word, get the momentum going and we can still turn this into a blessing in diguise and shove it right back down the wankers throat.

You can always get tickets on general sale there instead (Strawberry corner), if we stick together we can give a response to this that he's not going to get rid of us on the first home game of the season.

You dont have to. Say no to him, he's got a year left - get another season out of him and in the meantime buy some players in the summer, show ambition, push on next season and he might change his mind at the end if he see's progress.

Liverpool are much better without the negative Hodgson, and its just cliche'd to say 'it'll end in tears with Dalglish' - oh right, but what if it dosent? What if he wins something, what if he pushes them up in the champions league places or shows good progress? If it gets to a point when they are heading the wrong way then Im sure most Liverpool fans will accept a change, however reluctant, and thank Dalglish for his efforts & acheivements. He's got them playing again, restored some common sense to team selection, and it helps when someone on the touchline has an obvious love for the club and a calmness, unlike Roy 'Im gonna have a heat attack any minute' Hodgson. The biggest question marks were his last jobs here & at Celtic but I think some managers suit certain clubs and he's proving himself so far. I hate the narrow-minded 'its not gonna work cos hes a legend' stuff.

Yes, it wasnt the right choice to work with a DOF. "one who carried a heavily emotional history with the club" - well thats a positive as far as im concerned! How is it a negative? What does that emotion involve? What does that history involve? Positive things thats for sure, a man who knew the fans inside out, who loves the club AND a good manager? Yes please, the players playing in a noisier SJP, knowing that any game won is that extra bit special, imagine if we win something with someone who carries a heavily emotional history with the club? Wow, would be the pinnacle... but no, cant have any of that. Its like its backward thinking.

Why was it the wrong decision to hire Keegan if everyone was happy after the 1-1 draw at Old Trafford? The signs were good, he had rejuvinated the players at the end of the previous season, what do you want from a manager? A good manager? Well isnt he that? The reason it 'ended in tears' was not because it was Kevin Keegan, it was because Ashley lied & undermined him. He's a good manager, the club were better off with him as manager, and Ashley arrogantly threw it away trying to change his contract, wanting him to be a puppet. Dennis Wise bloody told him Gonzalez was a 'great player' and then turned around and then admitted to Keegan he'd never actually seen him play, and it was simply favour for agents. How can you go forward when your getting lied to like that? How could Keegan be honest with the fans about the 'structure' of the club? Of course the the board & manager dont always agree on things, have different opinions, but its not the norm that the DOF undermines the manager that blatently. Then you get the Milner situation before that, saying to Keegan they wouldnt sell him before a replacement is brought in and they did, the fact they hardly tried to keep him at all when he said he cant go on as long as he's being lied to and the 'system' stays in place. It just seems like stuff such as 'should never have got Keegan, it was destined to fail' are cliche's without anything constrcutive to back them up, and ignore the fact we had a good manager and the actions of the owner.

Ignorant Lee Ryder - 'and weve suddenly realised weve got a LB on our hands' - he was quality even in the season we went down, and had to cope with having the 'foreign flop' tag put onto him even after good performances, which wasnt helped by Joe Kinnear.

Like others have said - what is the reasoning for allocation more seats for away fans when the majority do not sell-out their current allocation, finding out if Leazes level 4 currently have many ST holders, or any other part for that matter. And aye, just dont mention the standing, if he mentions it just tell him anyone wanting a singing section does not want any trouble and will comply with the club.

Aye good letter mate but I'd leave out the stadning comment as it could cause problems. Spot on with everything else.

We need to identify an area asap, and although there could have been more discussion & debate about where that could be, if momentum has gathered for leazes level 4 on facebook & in the chronicle then I think its best to go with that. Its important people dont split up, and that everyones in it together. When Arsenal took up level 4 in the carling cup the noise sounded really good - the only potential problem is if there are a lot of current season ticket holders in that area (which is apparantly a plus about the Gallowgate with supposedly a low amount of ST holders at the back).