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Everything posted by timnufc22
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You dont have to. Say no to him, he's got a year left - get another season out of him and in the meantime buy some players in the summer, show ambition, push on next season and he might change his mind at the end if he see's progress.
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Liverpool are much better without the negative Hodgson, and its just cliche'd to say 'it'll end in tears with Dalglish' - oh right, but what if it dosent? What if he wins something, what if he pushes them up in the champions league places or shows good progress? If it gets to a point when they are heading the wrong way then Im sure most Liverpool fans will accept a change, however reluctant, and thank Dalglish for his efforts & acheivements. He's got them playing again, restored some common sense to team selection, and it helps when someone on the touchline has an obvious love for the club and a calmness, unlike Roy 'Im gonna have a heat attack any minute' Hodgson. The biggest question marks were his last jobs here & at Celtic but I think some managers suit certain clubs and he's proving himself so far. I hate the narrow-minded 'its not gonna work cos hes a legend' stuff.
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Yes, it wasnt the right choice to work with a DOF. "one who carried a heavily emotional history with the club" - well thats a positive as far as im concerned! How is it a negative? What does that emotion involve? What does that history involve? Positive things thats for sure, a man who knew the fans inside out, who loves the club AND a good manager? Yes please, the players playing in a noisier SJP, knowing that any game won is that extra bit special, imagine if we win something with someone who carries a heavily emotional history with the club? Wow, would be the pinnacle... but no, cant have any of that. Its like its backward thinking.
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Why was it the wrong decision to hire Keegan if everyone was happy after the 1-1 draw at Old Trafford? The signs were good, he had rejuvinated the players at the end of the previous season, what do you want from a manager? A good manager? Well isnt he that? The reason it 'ended in tears' was not because it was Kevin Keegan, it was because Ashley lied & undermined him. He's a good manager, the club were better off with him as manager, and Ashley arrogantly threw it away trying to change his contract, wanting him to be a puppet. Dennis Wise bloody told him Gonzalez was a 'great player' and then turned around and then admitted to Keegan he'd never actually seen him play, and it was simply favour for agents. How can you go forward when your getting lied to like that? How could Keegan be honest with the fans about the 'structure' of the club? Of course the the board & manager dont always agree on things, have different opinions, but its not the norm that the DOF undermines the manager that blatently. Then you get the Milner situation before that, saying to Keegan they wouldnt sell him before a replacement is brought in and they did, the fact they hardly tried to keep him at all when he said he cant go on as long as he's being lied to and the 'system' stays in place. It just seems like stuff such as 'should never have got Keegan, it was destined to fail' are cliche's without anything constrcutive to back them up, and ignore the fact we had a good manager and the actions of the owner.
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Ignorant Lee Ryder - 'and weve suddenly realised weve got a LB on our hands' - he was quality even in the season we went down, and had to cope with having the 'foreign flop' tag put onto him even after good performances, which wasnt helped by Joe Kinnear.
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Like others have said - what is the reasoning for allocation more seats for away fans when the majority do not sell-out their current allocation, finding out if Leazes level 4 currently have many ST holders, or any other part for that matter. And aye, just dont mention the standing, if he mentions it just tell him anyone wanting a singing section does not want any trouble and will comply with the club.
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Aye good letter mate but I'd leave out the stadning comment as it could cause problems. Spot on with everything else.
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We need to identify an area asap, and although there could have been more discussion & debate about where that could be, if momentum has gathered for leazes level 4 on facebook & in the chronicle then I think its best to go with that. Its important people dont split up, and that everyones in it together. When Arsenal took up level 4 in the carling cup the noise sounded really good - the only potential problem is if there are a lot of current season ticket holders in that area (which is apparantly a plus about the Gallowgate with supposedly a low amount of ST holders at the back).
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Some people think if a large chunk of people from Leazes level 7 renew for level 4 they wont be allowed to go ahead with it, that the club will not want those people staying together and tell them the seats are simply not available. Could you ask him how many season ticket holders occupy the leazes corner level 4?
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You mean an official creation of another section?
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Theres arounbd 2,000/3,000 fans who stand in thr leazes corner, if every one of those re-located to say leazes level 4 they'd have the same problem - how do we chuck out 3,000 fans? They cant, if enough people move to the same place then they have the power, so if momentum can be gathered and theres awarenss about where we are moving to then the standing should automatically follow.
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Simple really - dont renew until Ashley invests money into the team in the summer, and for people in the Leazes corner enjoying the atmosphere there - just get your season ticket / match day tickets in the young persons & family section and the atmosphere in the corner continue's.
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This. Still pisses me off thinking about how they treated Keegan, and how quite a few on here decided it was Keegan who was the bad guy in all of this. No self-respecting manager is going to work for these clowns, let alone a talented one with an ego. For the record, although it'll never happen, I'd love to have Keegan back. Screw all this "bottler" rubbish and worrying about how other sets of fans think we're pathetic for our "obsession" with him (the same sets of fans who would all be delighted to see us relegated again fwiw). He showed in his brief second spell here that he's still a very good manager, and that's all that matters. This.
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I do think any stick given by people inside the ground should be directed at Ahsley & Llambias, not Pardew. Im sure he has known about this appointment longer than he said, but ultimately, hes just took a job thats been offered, whether he's mates or not.
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I will say I thought Pardew did quite well at West Ham and Charlton were doomed before he took over. But obviously the point is Hughton was already doing well and Morinho would struggle to do any better under Ashley. Its its just rally sad, this didnt need to happen.
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Chris Hughton is a cockney... its nothing to do with that, I dont think it should be mentioned. Fat Greedy Bastard ismore appropriate.
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Aye like that's ever stopped our fans before. Let's face it the majority are happier using their voices to vent frustration than they are to get behind the team. The team are against what has happened, kicking off is getting behind the team. Showing Pardew support, or being complicit in his appointment, is going against the team. Aye it worked so well when Keegan left didn't it. Ashley got the response he deserved then, in fact not enough. Things settled down because people thought he was going and the protesting stopped, and we still went down.
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He's a c*** of a man, a terrible footballer manager and a friend of the great Cockney fuckers. If he was any sort of a decent person, he wouldn't have been involved in taking Hughton's job before he was even out of it. He deserves everything he gets. Almost every manager who's ever been involved in the game has been involved in taking someone's job before they were out of it, let's not get too carried away on that as if it's some sort of unique trait. I don't rate him as a manager but bear in mind were it not for an astonishing Gerrard goal he'd have won the FA cup for West Ham and probably have had a far more successful career after that. I'm only playing devils advocate here but I genuinely can't understand actively wanting a manager to fail before he's started tbh. Because we're doomed anyway IMO. We're as good as relegated. If we all get behind Pardew and the team, I don't think we'll stay up. So what's the point of making an effort to back a guy that you really really hate when it's not going to make any difference? I guess you may as well give up supporting us then. Maybe we're coming at it from completely different angles but if you'd rather persue a vendetta than support the team then that's up to you. I won't be singing Pardew's name but I also won't be singing against him, he'll effectively be part of the team. But theres no hope for the club as long as Ashley is here... a proper response to this shit is well over-due, dont go, have MA staring at as many empty seats as possible.
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Thats how I feel.
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Aye thats true, think the problem is he probably wants to sell players like Enrique & Carroll, and going off the reports it seems he sticks his ego into team selection, Aand generally has no interest in climbing the table, just being in the Premiership is enough until a buyer comes. Obviously he's put that at risk now though.
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Top and bottom of it - Ashley wants a yes man and Hughton wasnt it. This aint about the football.
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i happen to think that being able to apply thinking like 'if we all stop giving ashley our money he'll have to f*** off' makes me a pretty considerate person and therefore a good friend tbh, but each to their own That's fair enough mate and I'd agree with you on that point. Look, I'm not saying that we should just bend over and take it up the backside from Ashley and his runty litter of fuckwits - but I am saying that folks can't let this (admittedly diabolical) latest turn of events dilute their passion for the club. If people choose to articulate that love of the club by stopping supporting it now, then that's fine, they can f*** off just so long as they don't come back when the good times return, because they will return. They will. What about not going to games anymore in the hope it will bring good times back - i.e. speed up Ashleys departure. I don't know, you tell me. Did it work last time round when Keegan walked? It didnt happen, everyone kept going, thinking he was he was going to sell the club. I'd like to see a proper sustained boycott from now till the end of the season, and then no-one getting season tickets in the summer, and seeing what he does then. To be honest, I think Skirge's idea of everyone going up to SJP for the game, but not going in, just simply standing outside and cheering the team shows a degree of media savvy that previous protests just didn't. Thats what I think too, I'm desparate for it to happen.
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Well he wasnt actually there aginst Hull that time, if he has the balls to be there against Liverpool justifying this, then I hope he walks into a backlash of monumental proportions and feels the hate.
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Why dont we just simply block the Milburn entrance where he goes in?