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Thats right, but if the club is effectivley on hold in terms of progression as long as he's here, is not right to protect the future meaning of that statement above by boycotting games and potentially moving him near the exit door, and giving some meaning back to the league table.
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Like someone said, the players are pissed off aswell! Theyre in the same boat as us, and will probably expect someone kind of response to the fat man - a response on the basis of standards if not anything else. They'd probably think 'are you hearing this mike?'. But ultimately I personally think a boycott of games on some kind of level should happen. I already had got tickets for Liverpool and Man City, but after that Im not sure im going to the rest of the games. No, your not going to get en empty stadium, but surley theres hope for a sizeable drop.
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Surley Jol would want a) A decent wage b) Some finanical backing c) No interference Things that are not part of the Ashley regime. Is he really serious about taking the club forward? The Pardew appointment fits much more with Ashley's style, I think (or thought) part of the reason for Hughton going is Ashley wanting a jobs-for-the-boys enviroment, like it was with Kinnear and Wise. I dont think Hughton would have tolerated Ashley selling players, he wanted to keep and I think he would have been banging on his door wanting a bit more finanical backing.
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How stupid is that comparing your job to football? ITS A SPORT for gods sake, I cant believe you've said that part in the bold and compared it to a united football team giving it their all, collecting a point, and in the end unable to nick a goal, talk about taking things in the wrong context. The players will lose the drive to win if they are applauded off? MAYBE the players will be more determined to get 3 points for the fans in the next game to reward their loyalty, ever thought of that? Do you not trust Chris Hughton to do his job, and let him dictate to the players the standards they need to set? The money is irrelevant if they are giving it a good go, yes if they are taking the piss and showing no interest the booing & stick is justified, but we've clearly got a determined squad of players giving it their all, so whatever happens after that shoudlnt involve the reaction some gave yesterday - like I said, thats Hughtons job to tell the players we need to do better at home, which is obviously will be doing.
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So am I. But it doesn't mean I'll ignore the home form. Being better off than we expected doesn't mean everything else is forgotten. So your not going to ignore the home form and boo Chris Hughton and the players... R right I get it, now Hughtons going to try harder because fickle fans booed! Obviously! Aye lets boo that twat, he needs to know this is not good enough, and he will try harder!! Solution!! Do you not think the players & Hughton will appreciate some appluase instead, after giving it their all, and in the end unable to break through a tough Fulham team? You hear people saying the players need to stand up and be counted, to keep wanting the ball through tough times, and to be united... so how about the fans do that during tough times? Some fans throw their dummys out during tough times booing at the end, showing no unity and loyalty, so why not try be an example? They gave it their best shot, they couldnt get a goal, they didnt lose and got a point on the board - unlucky lads fair effort, keep going, we're in this together. You honestly think booing is the better mindset?
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Are you thick or something? I said we 'never stood a chance with that team selection' - Lovenkrands was never going to take those chances. He's an absolutely abysmal footballer. Any opportunity Yeah, like i'm wrong. Why go on like a 5 year on an internet forum? That baffles me.
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Ferk me, it wasnt too good to be true! lol
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"We're Newcastle and we beat the scum 4-1" ? To the tune of 'wye ya kna'.
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The truth is The Fat Cockney b****** is pissing all over the clubs history. how ? We have a good modern stadium which has been on the same site for generations. It means something to people its a real landmark for the city and to have it turned into a glorified advertising hoarding for Ashleys cheap and tacky supplier to the charva nation is pissing on the clubs history. so it's really about who is doing the advertising rather than the idea of the advertising in itself ? No not really. You keep pushing this angle. I would be just annoyed if TESCO was painted on the roof. so why are you so bothered about it being painted on the roof, i've rode past it twice today and couldn't see it and i don't think it'll be visible to away fans entering the city by train or over the redheugh bridge. pretty much the only ones who'll see it are those in the ground....just like the pitch surround advertising. I think it's quite clear that to many people in this thread, they feel like their beloved stadium has been violated and want to protect its wellbeing ...in much the same way as a father will wish to do the same for his daughter, and is unlikely to approve of his daughter's boyfriend making her wear trampy clothing and act like a whore... I'm not one of those people, by the way. You might be so smug about this, but why not just accept that to some people this is going too far, for obvious reasons? If your not bothered by it then fair do's, everyone has their own opinion, but again, why you'd be confused at the concept of people not liking it I dont know. I don't think I'm being "smug" about this, I don't see how you've come to that conclusion. I am however a bit more "hmm...whatever" than many other people in this thread are being about it, not because I don't care, more because I'm bemused that if as it seems, quite so many people are so massively offended by it (and you know, fair dos if they are, OK), but there's no sign of them actually doing anything about it - other than puerile chants on match days which contribute to a s**** atmosphere that more likely than not then rubs off on player morale. Sorry I got the wrong impression, I just dont think having the roof covered like that (with more to come) respects the prestige of SJP at all, the man has zero respect for nufc and the fans. And I think the money is irrelevant - at what point do you draw the line and say not everything has a price. Even if you were willing to let SJP be trodden on like this in return for money, I doubt we would gain any substantial income from a sponership deal like this anyway, and even then I dont believe Ashley when he says he says any of the income would go into the team, because lies is just normal PR to him.
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We've competed well in most games imo - Stoke & Wigan are the 2 games that stick out as really bad performances. We battered Blackpool 2nd half & created loads of chances. We lack some quality in the final third, and after the poor support financially (would an extra 5-10m really have put us ininanical danger mike?) Hughton got in the transfer window it was always going to be a tough battle over the course of the season.
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The truth is The Fat Cockney b****** is pissing all over the clubs history. how ? We have a good modern stadium which has been on the same site for generations. It means something to people its a real landmark for the city and to have it turned into a glorified advertising hoarding for Ashleys cheap and tacky supplier to the charva nation is pissing on the clubs history. so it's really about who is doing the advertising rather than the idea of the advertising in itself ? No not really. You keep pushing this angle. I would be just annoyed if TESCO was painted on the roof. so why are you so bothered about it being painted on the roof, i've rode past it twice today and couldn't see it and i don't think it'll be visible to away fans entering the city by train or over the redheugh bridge. pretty much the only ones who'll see it are those in the ground....just like the pitch surround advertising. I think it's quite clear that to many people in this thread, they feel like their beloved stadium has been violated and want to protect its wellbeing ...in much the same way as a father will wish to do the same for his daughter, and is unlikely to approve of his daughter's boyfriend making her wear trampy clothing and act like a whore... I'm not one of those people, by the way. You might be so smug about this, but why not just accept that to some people this is going too far, for obvious reasons? If your not bothered by it then fair do's, everyone has their own opinion, but again, why you'd be confused at the concept of people not liking it I dont know.
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Probably rubbish but saw this on another forum: Three independent sources from within the bookmaking fraternity and not confined to London are adamant that JFK will be back in charge in the not too distant future - a nightmare scenario.
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The point isnt that if the football was good we wouldnt notice it, the point for me is that it shows no respect for the prestige of the stadium, the picture speaks for itself.
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It would still be terrible to have a different companys name there - obviously its even worse being sports direct, but like someone just said, the point is the scale of it, its on top of the damn roof. When you see SJP from afar, you dont see the smaller advertisements, but now you cant miss SPORTS DIRECT, which will dominate what you see from some views. Advertisements are part of the game yes, having advertisement boards etc, and yes they are irritating, but surley this is too far?
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There's some things that shouldnt have a price, and the prestige of SJP is one of them. Yes, advertisement boards are around the pitch & in the stands, but this is surley different and a massive bridge too far. Even more illustrious companies shouldnt have their name plastered all over the gallowgate end like that... of course its not worth a couple of million imo.
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Schmeichel Neville Adams Terry Cole Beckham Scholes Keane Giggs Shearer Zola A bit boring maybe but that midfield, and individual players at their best, were just immense.
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Yeah thats true, I dont think there would have been too many managers (certainly quality managers) who would have accepted that treatment, so in hindsight the result was a picking from limited amount of managers who'd be ok with that.
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I'm sure he didnt carry as much weight during most of his time at Bolton, like someone said, you'd think he'd make sure he was slimmer, or instructed to lose weight.
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After they blatently lied to him breaking any trust, and tried to change his contract? Surley the point is we can agree that in hindsight it was probably best for all concerned that Mike Ashley & co didnt undermine & attempt to change the contract of whichever manager they hired?
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And the good old 'Wayne was unlucky there', 'Rio this, Rio that'.
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Surely, even those who don't think Keegan did anything wrong can agree that in hindsight it was probably best for all concerned that he didn't come back. Wasnt one of the reasons everyone was furious at Ashley when Keegan went was because he was doing a really good job up till that point? And everyone knew hes a quality manager?
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Dont the signs he wants to put up say "SportsDirect.om@St. James' Park"? If so, most people were up in arms at that, and rightly so imo, so whats changed now? I understand that it will always be St. James' Park, and its not as if that name is going away, but its just something to dont tamper with imo, where's the respect for the history & heritage... not everything has a price surley... and especially in todays climate when the price would not be anywhere near the emirates sponsership.
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Theres very little between Nolan & Jonas as to who to drop for Arfa, I could understand either swap. I could also understand putting Jonas on the right to make it harder for Baines & Pieinar going forward. Surley Tiote will be in for Smith, but I trust Hughton.
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Possibly in a 3, with someone else in the hole. Say Jonas, Tiote & Barton in the middle.
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Ring the box office up and order them that way, become a member for £20 for the season.