Heron

Oh my...

I think many would give their right arms to be in our situation. Depends how you define the situation, I guess...and it's back to the start of the debate.

I think any other club would understand why we feel this way if they were in our scenario. To be fair.

Anita and Colback are twice the players Tiote is technically. Tiote is twice they player they both are physically. In fact in terms of physique a mighty-morphin ColbAnita Power Ranger would be like Tiote.

There definitely seemed to be a noticeable shift in his attitude, not just towards player sales but the also the fans. Make no bones about it, he has always been a monumental c*** but there was a time that he seemed to at least fein an interest in the football side of NUFC - sacking Allardyce, hiring Keegan, hiring Shearer, promising to put in £20m of his own money each season, spending money on a new borehole etc. Perhaps it was the 'Fat Cockney Rapist' banner that sent him over the edge. ...and funnily enough, the "Cockney" is probably the most inaccurate part of that message.

Researched and it was both. I was Hatem Ben Heron for the first and only day in my entire life...

I will play if I am not on holiday like. Was the last game when I played CB, LW and ST and scored about 3 and made an assist or two? Or the one where I rainbow flicked someone and they looked like they were going to break me?

It's not just on the pitch either. I flicked through SSN on at 5pm on Monday and they had the transfer totaliser at £106m. Went back after 11pm and it was still at £106m. There's a million men around the UK who sat through all that, not to mention the hundreds that worked through the night beaming the information vaccum back and forth live from grounds around the country. People think they were entertained by THAT, but they're mistaken, they were lulled into a street hustlers trick, a sleight of hand that transformed absolutely nothing into absolutely nothing stretched over 6 hours with 2 hours dedicated to adverts. The whole January transfer window makes me sick for the above reasoning. That, combined with the fact we only seem to lose our best players at present just makes for a horrendous experience. The best thing to come out of the window is Natalie Sawyer or whatever she is called for most people, and without wanting to sound chauvinistic, I don't watch football for pretty women. Football is becoming so Americanised / modernised... Blame it on the people that purchase Sky Sports imo. If no-one bought it, Football would still be the people's game. Well, as it happens I have Sky TV so I am thinking of getting rid of it and just opting for the internet. For all of the above reasoning.

This thread needs renaming - Most of it has had SFA (ironically) to do with The Rangers FC. Just to contradict that point though...the problem now seems to be societal as much as it is anything else. I'm a firm believer in standing up for what you believe in, and unfortunately peacefully protesting doesn't normally suffice in my opinion. Apart from the SackPardew thing, which revitalised my opinion on how a group can promote or help enforce change through a lack of illegal action. I don't see many protests that have really changed much, when some form of potentially illegal act hasn't occurred. Probably for the simple fact it isn't reported. Those guys did it excellently, despite maybe going a bit quiet in the end. They woke up the fan base and media, and the national media started to latch on to it. As a 25 year old, I am probably a little biased in this sense. However, with society I feel that most of the 'older' generations simply look at the 'youth of today' as a general waste of space and nothing but a bunch of yobs, trying to stir up trouble. I'm sure in 10/20 years I too will probably feel the same, I guess it's understandable to a degree. Rose tinted glasses and all that... The thing is, what these older people (and even myself sometimes) need to remember is that these youngsters actively promoting change are looking for their sense of belonging and direction. Looking for the key to unlock their adult personality. They have no ties, other than to that of the things they have grown to love and at their stage in life, it's a hormonal desire for sex, drugs and rock and roll (so to speak). I get bored of hearing older generations telling youngsters what they should be appreciative of and how things could be worse. They weren't alive in "their" generation so how are they to know or more importantly, understand. Nor can you blame them for not being there. They only have their experiences to go off, and whilst they should learn from others' mistakes from the past, they have to be willing to stand up for what they believe to be right. With CCTV and seemingly an increased power held by media streams the 'youth of today' are being beaten into submission to just accept what they are being given and not retaliate, and to be quite frank, this is just fucked up. I know, probably a load of drivel (the above) in regards to the discussion topic. However, this is where it boils back down. I have been brought up on Premier League Newcastle United. I am very lucky to have experienced such a decent spell in the clubs history. I know this. I'm not stupid. I know about people pissing money up the wall on has-beens. I know we have had horrendous owners before.But does that mean I, or others, should sit back and accept the fact we no longer have any ambition or aspiration to be a competitive sporting institution? Our stadium smacks of this mentality. I don't condone rioting or illegal acts, but you can barely speak out without being shouted down by the older generations or the club. The youngsters who shout people down probably know no better, and just don't want to hear people 'dissing' their club. This is the point in time where the older and wiser should be guiding the demoralised youths and saying "I remember when it was shite under such and such, and it made me feel..." Because this is what is important, the feeling that was experienced then. Not the statistics, or rose-tinted views of what was. The club to us all, despite our views on Ashley, is of massive importance to us, or we wouldn't be debating over a fucking internet forum like it was some sort of war council. Whether you be Black, White, or Yellow. English, American or Scottish it means a great deal to us all. The club for most, is representative of our homeland. Our region. Our people. That's why for me NUFC will never be dead, and nor will I stand by and watch it die because that's not what 'we' do. So let people be angry, guide them in how to spend their time, money and emotion wisely and lets not worry about what could have been (Pompey, Leeds., etc.). Lets aspire to be the best. Because that's what represents our homeland, and those that hold it dear.

It's not just on the pitch either. I flicked through SSN on at 5pm on Monday and they had the transfer totaliser at £106m. Went back after 11pm and it was still at £106m. There's a million men around the UK who sat through all that, not to mention the hundreds that worked through the night beaming the information vaccum back and forth live from grounds around the country. People think they were entertained by THAT, but they're mistaken, they were lulled into a street hustlers trick, a sleight of hand that transformed absolutely nothing into absolutely nothing stretched over 6 hours with 2 hours dedicated to adverts. The whole January transfer window makes me sick for the above reasoning. That, combined with the fact we only seem to lose our best players at present just makes for a horrendous experience. The best thing to come out of the window is Natalie Sawyer or whatever she is called for most people, and without wanting to sound chauvinistic, I don't watch football for pretty women. Football is becoming so Americanised / modernised...

I never thought our fans would be as collectively defeatist as they seem to be becoming like. Our fans of all fans...

:lol: Warwick Hunt.

Aye. That's true like.

Okay. So Rangers Pack... Do you understand that we aren't complaining about the quality we are complaining about the lack of ambition. Which, as we have explained, is and should be worse in any fans mind?

Tin hat here... I don't really dislike Carver. I just don't think he will prove good enough. I kinda feel for him in a sense that this is probably the closest he will ever be to his footballing dream and his one chance is under these cunts. He should save himself the grief in the next 6-12months though and ensue he isn't hated by his own people. I would like to think he has sufficient 'friends' in the industry that point this out to him.

FML You're so full of shite.

It was because I fucking hate him. Ha!

Couple of the lads said we had agreed terms with him to wjnd me up. Apart from his need for cash and transfers it was highly believable...

At some point the football tribalism will need to be put aside. Dare I say it, the SMB's pioneered it after MH17. Clubs need to come together and unite for Footballs sake. Otherwise the game will continue to be killed by rich businessmen, Sky (or their equivalent) and the downright ignorance of all other media outlets.

It's one thing to be shite but it's a totally different thing to be unwilling to be good. That's he problem here. The Rangers FC will come to realise this some time in the near future. As for you (Rangers Pack), we may not be Liverpool or Man United...but we do have a history and we have had relatively successful eras. Don't come on here preaching to us about the greatness of Ashley when you only have the media to go off. I suspect one day your lot will realise the damage they cause to not only big clubs like yours and ours but to modern football and unless you're totally fucking stupid you will realise we were right. Collectively, the Cardiffs, Newcastle's and Rangers of this world should be standing up to these leeches and saving the once beautiful game. Not rationalising their horrendous decisions.

Not that I give a fuck...but imagine being a Rangers fan and having to put up with the thought of 5 young and unwanted's coming up from here to save the day... Jesus.

Cannot watch the vid as wor lass is asleep next to me. Was my anagram not original?

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