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They did what loads of young lads would do, so it's not a big deal in my opinion. (couldn't be arsed to read the whole thread)

I sit right next to the sports bar section and it must be said that it's a good view from that section of the Leazes End. On the other hand the atmosphere in this section of the ground resembes that of a library...similar to the East Stand. If you want a good sing song I would recommend Leazes Level 7, for a good view though you will be fine there.

Coming to think of it I think it didn't actually ask questions it just gave solutions to current problems and suggested how they could help us. They said they would get back to us in a week or two and it's now been a month. Think they could have gave us some sort of feedback now. It might be worth ringing up and asking what the craic is................AGAIN

It's been a month now, and still no reply (from what i know of). The 'Portfolio' must have been poorly written, or they mustn't like our ideas. Either that or they need pestering for answers?

Michael Chopraaa, Are you listening? You scored a goaaal, Down at Sunderland, But your not welcome home, You sold your sole, and now you're just a mackem arsehole! To The Tune Of 'Walking in a Winter Wonderland' 4-1! Even Chopra scored! 4-1! Even CHopra scored! 4-1! Even CHopra scored! We've got better shops than you! We've got better shops than you!

He's big, He's Czech, He'll break your fucking neck, Rozenhal, Rozenhal! This club is my club, Made out of two clubs, To Form United, Oh what a great club, We'll always be there, Win lose we don't care, we are the geordies of NUFC. We have got Cacapa, He's not from ayia napa, He's from Brazil, He's f****** brill! When Jimmy goes marching down the wing, Milner, Milner, When Jimmy goes marching down the wing, Milner, Milner, When Jimmy goes marching down the wing, The Geordie boys are gunna sing, we all know that Jimmy's gunna score! Nana nana nana nana nana nana nana nana nana nana nana nana nana nana nana nana nana nanan nana nana We all know that Jimmy's gunna score! Jose Enrique (clap clap, clap clap clap) Jose, Jose-Jose-Jose, Jose-Jose, Jose Alan, Alan Smiiiith, Alan, Alan Smiiith! Geremi, woooah, Geremi, woooah, He come's from Cameroon, He's captain of the Toon! He's the greatest player from Turkey and they call him Emre, Emre, Emre, He's the greatest player from Turkey and they call him Emre. These are just some of the fairly recent ones made and sang by the Toon Ultras.

No, he won't. Too injury prone.

League games is Sir John Hall Level 7, usually blocks H and J. Cup games we are situated in the South East ('Strawberry') Corner. www.toonultras.com/forums Sign up mate and see what the craic is. (am I allowed to do that on these forums...i'm sure i read somewhere something about advertising)

Things will probably get discussed in the coming weeks regarding our name, so that we can gain more members, etc.

I swear i must be missing something. I haven't entered or read any of the Toon Ultras arguments/debates, but is there actually summat, hidden beneath it all, that is so dispicably taboo about the name, or something? I don't know what dispicably taboo means, but basically 'Ultras' on the continent are known for being hooligans and go round stabbing one another,etc. So despite everyone knowing we don't inted to cause trouble, it deters people from joining, for the fact it has a connotation of hooliganism.

The name change debate has been brought up once again in the council forum and will no doubt be debated in the main forums, for anyone wishing to express there views feel free to join up www.toonultras.com it will be in the Toon Ultras Talk section within the coming week no doubt...

100% Agree with this and i hope it gets put into action!

I was wondering that the first time I heard it, I thought f*** off it's not just you lot singing the whole stadium has been on it's feet singing for most of the match. Then I saw all the police and realised what was going on. I understand why people may think it's a step back to change the name as people have learned it but this is something that is meant to carry on for many years. If it was a short term thing, fine keep the name. But it's not and thats the one of the biggest problems of the current Ultras team they have a short term mindset and don't like new suggestions from people who have created things which have been a success in the past. I went on the portal and gave my two cents once and was basically told my opinion wasn't welcome f*** off, so I did and haven't posted since and I know this has happened to others. I'm sure if you began posting on our forums once again, you wouldn't recieve such a hostile reception. The problem with our forums is that we get alot who go on purely for the craic, and alot are far to stubborn. Recently we have gained quite a few members off here who have signed up to see what we are about, and all the 'Bring Back The Noise Boys' are being a bit more open minded. Currently there is a bit of a divide on the forums about name changes and the likes, so that will work in your favour as a member giving your opinion. Whatever is said just take it with a pinch of salt mate. If i am totally honest (again) there are alot of people on our forums who don't do fuck all for the BBTN Boys, in terms of visual displays and making suggestions. But they turn up and sing which is what counts. One member springs to mind 'MightyMags' who is a bit like your 'Crumpy Gunt'. Also people like 'Washingtoon'/'Washingarse' just fuck around. Like already mentioned just take it on the chin and keep posting, there are some good new ideas being talked about at the moment, including the possibilites of a surfer, a card display, and new flag designs...

What is it your actually doing?

Great post mate. I think alot of our members are very stubborn and believe that we can keep progressing alone. I must admit i agree to a certain degree, but at the same time, our aim is to Bring Back The Noise, so if we get more people on our side this will happen quicker. I think we should change our name still, but having flags/banners with our name on and everyone knowing us as Toon Ultras are problems. If we were to change our name it would kind of be one step back...(in some peoples eyes). I think alot of our members are also worried that if we get too much of a relationship with the club that they will take over and we will lose any say in what we do, and to be honest that i don't blame them for. Just wondering what did you mean by "new criteria"? that kinda lost me off a bit. Anyways sorry that post was pretty unstructured, but y'kna haha.

I must admit, it is a rather foolish idea. At first i was all for it, but when i think about it, we are trying to gain a relationship with the club and other fan groups like yourself, and by doing this we could be wrecking all chance of us gaining a relationship. I think what you have mentioned will only happen if the club continue to show us no support/continue to give us no feedback. It is kind of a way of hitting back saying, who else is going to sing and provide an atmosphere. Obviously it isn't just the BBTN Boys who sing, but everyone who attends the home games must admit we provide alot of the atmosphere. Just for the record i would also like to say that 'Do You Want An Atmosphere?' is aimed at the over-zealous stewarding and policing not the remainder of the ground as it may seem.

http://toonultras.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=3 There is quite a few in there from various home and away games, they are mainly pictures of the fans. But feel free to use them....

NUFC.COM amongst others appear to be calling us the BBTN Boys now, maybe you could use the same alternative name? I'm pretty sure almost everyone who reads these forums regularly, and the club, are fully aware of our ambitions. You don't have to promote us or anything, it would just be a thread for us to post up possible flag designs, display ideas, and new songs, then people could make suggestions about how to improve things. Currently, Toon Ultras have several new songs that seem to be struggling to get out for everyone to know. I think with a thread similar to the one previously mentioned alot more people can join in with our songs and get more involved whether people are Ultras or not....resulting in a louder St James'.

I like that idea. I think it would be a great move for us (Toon Ultras) because we need to get as many people on our side as possible. Obviously it won't matter as much for the Newcastle-Online lot because your already an established site and the only way we can help you is by increasing the atmosphere and making your matchdays more enjoyable. I think it could maybes be a good idea to have a Toon Ultras 'sticky' just so we can post up current ideas and events that we are planning. Just so we can make it clearer what is happening. If an Admin'/Mod' would be willing to do this it would be much appreciated.

I would like to strongly emphasise this point. 'Do You Want An Atmosphere' has been belted out by the Toon Ultras at the last two home games as a result of over-zealous stewarding. I am sure you are all aware of this.

Apologies readers, I just felt that this would be a good thread in which to yet again post up the best interests of the Toon Ultras. How Can You Help? In order for the Toon Ultras to succeed in their mission to ‘Bring Back The Noise’, we will need your help, and guidance. If we can gain an understanding, and a relationship with you, the club, we are sure we can progress and become champions both on and off the pitch. Below is a list of things we believe you could do to help. If you would be willing to consider all of these then it would be greatly appreciated. · Written permission to bring in flags on poles longer than 1metre in length, providing they are not obstructing another supporters view during match time. · A write up on the official website promoting our campaign to ‘Bring Back The Noise’. · Permission to hang our banners over the level 7 balcony, where in the past there has been advertising. If this becomes a problem financially maybe a small fee could be agreed between the Toon Ultras and yourself. · A safe place to store any items we may need to use for multiple visual displays. I.e. Banners, flags, etc. · Written permission to enter the ground earlier than the turnstiles get opened. This would allow us plenty of time in order to get visual displays set up, and ready for pre-match. Finally, there are two more suggestions of how you can help us ‘Bring Back The Noise’ or simply generate an atmosphere to be proud of. The first of these suggestions is reasonably simple, yet the second would prove highly beneficial but may seem rather cheeky on our behalf. Firstly, it has been rumoured that the song ‘Local Hero’ will no longer be played as the players walk out onto the pitch. Well in not just the Toon Ultras opinion, but in the eyes of many Newcastle fans this would be a huge blow. ‘Local Hero’ is part of every Newcastle fans match day experience, and we the Toon Ultras feel it is a vital part of the pre-match build up. Just before they kick off, and the drums end the song, screams bellow out from every Newcastle fan in the ground, this is what we need. We need something which says, “I’m proud to be a Geordie”, and that is exactly what that song does, especially because it was played by one of the greatest Geordie musicians of all time-Mark Knopfler. In addition to this, we also believe several songs would liven up the ground pre-match. If some of the following songs could be played, we the Toon Ultras feel it could make a huge impact on the atmosphere: I’m Coming Home Newcastle Fog On The Tyne Don’t Let Go (You’ve Got The Music In You) Hey Jude Blaydon Races Local Hero Secondly, the Toon Ultras are only a young and fairly small organisation currently, despite beginning to grow rapidly recently due to articles written by Lee Ryder in the Chronicle and True Faith. A lot of our current members are fairly young and are still carrying out their studies at school, 6th form, college or university, and money can be hard to come by to produce the displays we aspire to. So any form of financial backing would be a huge help also. However, it is not a necessity and not a problem if this cannot be done.

I don't like this idea. It would mean the away days would be filled with even more old grumpy bastards. No offense. I appreciate where you're coming from, but away days are a thing for younger generations to go to and shout and sing. Not for old 'past being enthusiastic' supporters. I know for a fact alot of people will oppose this opinion of mine but still, there it is...

Control yourself.

No because too many people don't know the right words. Too Many people sing it too fast, and too many people don't know the second/third/etc verses. If the song was already playing then the tempo would already be set, I don't think it's too much to expect people to pick the words up either. Fair points, but it is far more up-tempo than those previously mentioned. Even Hey Jude would be alright, so that LALALALA Geordies bellowed out a few times.....?

No because too many people don't know the right words. Too Many people sing it too fast, and too many people don't know the second/third/etc verses.