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Blows my mind that folk are obsessing over the flexibility of forward players and in next sentence think losing the most flexible defender we have is okay. I would struggle to argue selling Tino, only Isak and Tonali would be higher up the unsellables for me

And there was me thinking I was all out of final related tears. Fucker! Memories of my nan, lost a long old time ago to the same rancid disease. Always made a corn beef pie for my dad, grandad and I every time we came back from the match when I was a kid. Ate it as quick as I could and ran down the road to grab the pink. Would have loved them both to have seen that day.

If we have a broad list with 3-4 players in each position, letting the cartel clubs blow their load in the next few weeks and then picking off remaining targets without the same competition isn’t the worse thing

Not quite sure why we are amber here

The Athletic article showing that both Chelsea and Man City have around about £300m each in PSR headroom shows what a fucking joke the system is.

But they’ll want 5 year contracts on similar wages wherever they go, certainly sounds that way with Sancho turning down Chelsea and Rashford having 3 years left and sending out similar msging. That’s either close to or in excess of £100m total packages for each player. I just cannot see any club outside Saudi (or maybe MLS with a heavy weighting to commercial / image variables) being willing to offer that. If Sancho goes back to Dortmund for example it’ll need heavy subsidies or basically a free transfer with a write off of what you still owe them. Suppose we have the summer to see what happens, but I think £60m with clubs taking them onto balance sheet with no subsidy or pay off on the manc side would represent incredible business for you and doesn’t feel likely.

Okay great, this brings me back to the question I asked yesterday - let’s assume Rashford and Sancho don’t agree to move to Saudi, do you really think another team will pay a significant transfer fee and match wages for either player? Or are you going to have to reduce fee, subsidise wages or be stuck with them? If a 5 year commitment to each player is £75m and neither of them have shown anything to indicate they would be worth an investment close to that amount, I think the assumption you made of a £60m+ windfall for them both is some way off.

So, using the Capology image with Sancho on £150k a week, that makes a total of £450k a week saving if both him and Rashford leave, making a total saving over 5 years of £118m, not even covering the fees of Cunha and Mbeumo, meaning your numbers yesterday were BS. Hope that helps

I thought you said yesterday that if you got rid of Rashford and Sancho you would be saving £150m over 5 years which would basically cover the fees and some wages for Cunha and Mbeumo? That would put them both on £300k per week. You quote the higher figures in one thread to justify huge outlay, then in another thread you say they’re bullshit and way too high, seemingly reframing in each topic to suit your chosen argument.

£150m saving would have both Rashford and Sancho earning £300k a week for the next five years. That appears pretty high, particularly if the 20% a year non CL clause is active for both. Particularly if the clause applies YoY too. I’d say that’s a significant overestimate. On top of this, you’re stating a ‘almost certain’ transfer fee of +£60m. Bearing in mind both Villa and Chelsea refused to take either player on their current wages and you are stating they are earning £600k a week between them in their current contracts, i would imagine you’re either going to have to massively reduce the expected fee or give them huge pay offs / wage subsidies when they leave. If you have two liabilities on your balance sheet that are going to cost £150m and are effectively of zero use to you, do you really think another club would take those liabilities off you onto their balance sheets and pay significant fees for them, when they know their intrinsic value to you is minimal? I would say you’re also being pretty obtuse with your argument here. this is all caveated that the above could come true if they are happy to take our Saudi overlord money and move to the gulf.

So that’s £120m net potential inflows gone in a few hours, with another £120m in outflows either agreed or close to agreed in a similar period. Any club in their right mind would hold off on any offers for Manc players even for just the rest of the month to make them sweat and potentially force hand on a deal.

Did loads of the shirts on that last advert have ‘Pistone’ on the back?!

Dunno why but it reminds me of the Havertz transfer. Maybe the fact they both have eyes of a veteran junkie

I’m guessing a sponsor is stumping up at least part of the amount. No way Madrid pay £10m off their own bat. The organisers want all the players they can get there and will have facilitated accordingly. They’ve even blagged a special stub transfer window to enable this sort of move.

I definitely think Chelsea plan on signing him, then doing him dirty and bringing in another big name striker who immediately replaces him as number 1, then selling for £40m+ come Jan, or even loaning in Jan in the hope he goes on a tear and looking for £50m+.