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Talksport have been discussing it for 10 mins too... It's my sadness at having barely slept with SSN and betfair on in the background... I'm doing 50 days without drinking so gambling has become my new addiction!

Not being patronising, but I think you are fairly new here and havent sat through this forum during other periods of management change. Having watched the last three appointments, I have observed people reacting to changes of bookmakers odds, and after a while, you realise that these changes mean absolutely nothing. Nope, not patronising at all, just trying to get my head round it all, normally follow management changes via tv / websites but rarely on forums. To be honest, my main obsession with the gambling sites at the moment is a strong belief that if you react to breaking news you can make a lot of money. Having sat and watched Betfair basically solidly for the last 3 days i am learning a lot about how the market works and i have been doing similar for other clubs, albeit with less interest as i don't follow them. Whilst tipping someone to take the job is always conjecture and will often be wrong, when odds fly away from someone more often than not that means that there is something in it. I understand your scepticism and maybe you can educate me by telling me all the managers that have come following their odd flying out when they were previously favourites. That's a genuine question, i'm here to learn as much as i can to be honest!

Bookmakers are indeed speculation, but what speculation are they reacting to? There is nothing on talksport or skysports (i'm sad enough to have both on!) and all articles are pointing towards Redknapp joining, so the flow of money away from Redknapp can only be linked to some kind of inside info... remember betfair isn't your standard bookmaker, it's private people betting against each other. He is on top of the list but his odds are longer. As i speak Redknapp: 5.2 Shearer: 5.1 Hughes: 4.3

Redknapp is out of it, he has gone to 3rd fave on betfair behind Shearer and Hughes, something has happened, dunno what but i'm going to put my neck on the line here and say he's told someone he's not going, the money has just poured out of him. Not sure who it'll be but i'm going to say now, i don't think it will be redknapp - check betfair.com

Odds on Redknapp on Betfair have just gone out miles, he is now way longer than evenings, Hughes has come in from 20s to 6s - does anyone know what's happened?!

I just feel if nothing is done by tonight there is a chance things will change. I'm gutted the game is not at our place as the fans would have a chance to make a real statement about who they want / do not want. If we had 52k fans singing for Mourinho / Shearer / Van Gaal(!) then Ashley / Mort would realise that Redknapp would not 'blow' anyone's fecking socks off and would not be a good choice. As it is i'm hoping a) those down at OT make enough noise that the TV picks it up for Ashley to see or b) ashley is back for the game. After all, we heard right up until the Stoke game that Ashley was on hols yet he made it back - if he wants to be there he will be and i'd have thought Man Utd away would have him rushing to be back

PS - that's from SSN, so not sure whether it's true, but they are very reluctant to play the story down as they have been championing it all week, so i think it's likely to be true

Redknapp is at the Portsmouth training ground, bringing them up for the game, it's looking a lot less likely if that's the case

Yeah, that's true enough. I don't care where someone's from to be honest, as long as they've got the club's best interests at heart and do a good job i'll be happy (i think that position may change if some mackem rocks up in charge)

Bollocks to that - it goes back too long just to stop as soon as Redknapp comes in. It also doesn't help that he basically embodies most negative cockney stereotypes. Don't get me wrong, through work i have become one of the oft-slated 'london mags' and so i have a lot of friends born and raised here, however even they look at the term 'cockney' as referring to a dodgy east end geeza, the likes of which you'd see in Eastenders. And let's be honest, who couldn't see Redknapp running that car lot, he basically is Frank Butcher.

Kemsley is a lot lot more experienced than Ashley and Mort when it comes to football. His advice could especially be appreciated when Ashley is out of the country. I'm pretty sure Ashley's presence in the country is irrelevant - he wouldn't have flown out if he thought leaving would be detrimental / leave him relying on others - it would make no sense. He chose to fire Allardyce when he did. Kemsley is more experienced you're right, but experience doesn't necessarily make you a better judge - and here we are in the same argument as to what makes a good manager! I would rather Ashley and Mort made their own decision - yes, they might not have been in football long but they've been long enough to make a decision as ruthless as to kick allardyce out when they have, so they should now make their own decision on the replacement. I do trust them, but worry that listening to Ashley's mate could cloud Ashley's judgment. He would hate it as much as us if in a year's time we're stuck with a huge bill paying off Redknapp for failing when it wasn't his gut decision but that of his mate's and he just went along with it as he thought he knew best. Randy Lerner was totally new to football and this country and he still had the nous to get O'Neill in, I don't buy into Ashley / Mort not knowing enough about what they're doing and having to turn to others for help.

I'm not claiming it's up to me, i just don't like him being involved. If Ashley is as savvy as we all (myself included) keep giving him credit for then he'll hopefully be more sensible than to just trust everything Kelmsley tells him and make sure he does his own research. And agreed, this is on the proviso it's all true, i am being sucked in to sky sports following 7 solid hours...

more piece of bullshit, no quotes, there's nothing at all to back their claims, the same 1's that we're said earlier it's fairly good knowledge he was in london with family and friends tonight as well Although the driver of the car in that photo does look like Kemsley. thts the photo of him being driven away by storrie earlier That isn't Storrie. It was him being driven away from training though, i think the press may have spotted that and made slightly more of it had it been Kelmsley / an agent. Why the f*** is this spud suddenly deciding our future anyway? I don't like it at all, i don't care if him and Ashley are mates, i want him out the picture. Interesting that the back of tomo's papers are a lot more ifs/buts than yesterdays blanket 'he's definitely going' Kemsley is an ex-Spud. Yes, supposedly so he can go to the US and start his property investment business... Why is he still here? Getting involved in our business? He supposedly didn't have time to work for Spurs so quit, now he's commenting on us and people are saying he's helping negotiate for our manager. Not particularly keen on it to be honest, no matter how good a mates him and Ashley are. It's like Sam Allardyce inviting Sammy Lee down to pick our team straight after Lee had left Bolton... Probably would have been better, mind

more piece of bullshit, no quotes, there's nothing at all to back their claims, the same 1's that we're said earlier it's fairly good knowledge he was in london with family and friends tonight as well Although the driver of the car in that photo does look like Kemsley. thts the photo of him being driven away by storrie earlier That isn't Storrie. It was him being driven away from training though, i think the press may have spotted that and made slightly more of it had it been Kelmsley / an agent. Why the fuck is this spud suddenly deciding our future anyway? I don't like it at all, i don't care if him and Ashley are mates, i want him out the picture. Interesting that the back of tomo's papers are a lot more ifs/buts than yesterdays blanket 'he's definitely going'

1.Oliver talks s*** 2.Kelmsley bums Redknapp up the arse so he would be excited. fair enough. Like I said, I'm sulking. Ignore me. It's highely likely it'll be Redknapp, almost certain.I don't understand the huge negativity tbh, he's a good manager, plays passing football and is going to get a significant amount of money to spend, I'm quite excited. still unconvinced he'll leave his cushy life down there tbh. And being 61, I'm not sure how long he'll stick around. With a reported 5m a year? I think he might well leave. he's sorted already. In all fairness, does he really need that £5m a year? If someone offered you significantly more than you were currently earning, would you strongly consider it? Whether he needs it or not isn't the point, it's a massive amount of money to turn down and that's not even considering he'd actually take the job on its merits anyway. Personally, if I was financially sorted for life, 61, settled with my family and offered more money to move to the other end of the country away from all the security I had and a team i had built / was still building, i would stick where i was and see that through. That said, we all know Harry is a greedy bastard so he'll probably put money ahead of all else, including his family and the promises he has made the fans, players and staff at football ("this will be my last club") and come up here. Another reason I don't want him - in an industry of liars and cheats he's right at the top of them. Just another target for an undercover NOTW team to expose, plunging us back into the media spotlight / circus

Dogleash acting as the wise old head to a young manager who's first job is gaffer at a well supported club it has been done before with devastating effect. But what does that matter its "Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeera" we are talking about.... Someone mentioned Dalglish as his assistant Was tongue in cheek mate. I am gobsmacked by the number of people who would be happy with Shearer in charge. I find it astonishing that the forums have been full of people whining and bitching all day about not getting the likes of Mourinho and Lippi to getting excited about someone with no experience of coaching (with the exception of standing in a dug out on match days in Roeders run) and managing. If it was any other person with no coaching or managerial experience Tyneside would be up in arms but no its "Sheeeeeeeera!!!" so somehow its acceptable.... Agree with this. Because he "loves the club" has no baring on whether he'd be good for us or not. When Ferguson leaves Man Utd do you think they'd be happy with Ince (who does have a bit of experience) because "he loves the club"? But we aren't Man Utd! Of the options realistically available I think Shearer would be the most exciting. Keegan had no managerial experience and did okay! Also, those saying he looks like a numpty on MOTD are right, but then they all do. I think there has been some kind of BBC directive to be as dull as possible after the FA started taking coverage away from them when they were perceived as too negative about England when they actually said f*** all. Even Hansen, who I used to think was incredibly knowledgeable and a great pundit, is now w***. I don't think it's because they're lazy, i think it's because they are told to be (with the exception of wright, who is a moron) Based on what? Based on the buzz around the ground, in the town and hopefully throughout the team. My point is, with the options that (appear) to be available, we aren't going to agree on who we want, that's quite clear. I think the negativity surrounding any appointment will be noticeable and put the new manager on the back foot immediately, with the exception of Shearer who everyone (if he was to be appointed) would get behind, regardless of original preference. As to the point about starting in the lower league, i actually think that it must be harder to start in the lower leagues rather than the league that you were familiar with. Shearer knows the Prem inside out, holds huge respect from fellow pros and I think he might do a good job, despite the risk involved. Don't get me wrong, i'd rather a Mourinho, Lippi, etc. but it seems less and less likely. All i'm saying is i'd rather take a risk on Shearer than a risk on Redknapp. They've both won the same amount of silverware as managers and shearer's win ratio is better after all

Dogleash acting as the wise old head to a young manager who's first job is gaffer at a well supported club it has been done before with devastating effect. But what does that matter its "Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeera" we are talking about.... Someone mentioned Dalglish as his assistant Was tongue in cheek mate. I am gobsmacked by the number of people who would be happy with Shearer in charge. I find it astonishing that the forums have been full of people whining and bitching all day about not getting the likes of Mourinho and Lippi to getting excited about someone with no experience of coaching (with the exception of standing in a dug out on match days in Roeders run) and managing. If it was any other person with no coaching or managerial experience Tyneside would be up in arms but no its "Sheeeeeeeera!!!" so somehow its acceptable.... Agree with this. Because he "loves the club" has no baring on whether he'd be good for us or not. When Ferguson leaves Man Utd do you think they'd be happy with Ince (who does have a bit of experience) because "he loves the club"? But we aren't Man Utd! Of the options realistically available I think Shearer would be the most exciting. Keegan had no managerial experience and did okay! Also, those saying he looks like a numpty on MOTD are right, but then they all do. I think there has been some kind of BBC directive to be as dull as possible after the FA started taking coverage away from them when they were perceived as too negative about England when they actually said fuck all. Even Hansen, who I used to think was incredibly knowledgeable and a great pundit, is now wank. I don't think it's because they're lazy, i think it's because they are told to be (with the exception of wright, who is a moron)

I swear there is some kind of betting scam going on here. They come out and claim the club are 'advising' them they are still looking for someone experienced. Would someone really come out and say that to the pres? And if they did everyone would be carrying it. SSN just seem determined it's going to be redknapp and everyone else is following their lead

Why do they let people like this on the radio?! He is saying we'd be a bigger club than man utd if we won a cup!

Shearer has just gone from 20-1 on betfair to 4-1... Whichever of you guys are listening to talksport and are a few minutes ahead on what is happening could seriously make hundreds of pounds on betfair- this happened 5 mins after that news came out!

odds on Redknapp have just doubled on Betfair (still massive favourite but not seen a move that big since last night's breaking story that we were making an approach this morning). Fucking pissed off as tried to bet against him but just missed the odds i wanted and didn't re-enter bet, essentially just lost £80. Still will be worth it if there was a reason Ha, just announced shearer on SSn!@

SSN is such a joke.... why do they keep reporting that redknapp is in london with his family?! I also love the fact they are now reporting the Portsmouth fred bid and not even pondering any impact this might have on their 'main' story as this would undermine what they have been spouting all day. Nothing has happened for hours... very bizarre, thought either us or portsmouth might have said something.

Was it really that about Shearer?! Would be rather interesting. Source?! And on the other point, pretty sure there is no one other than Redknapp in charge of transfers at Portsmouth. Except Willie Mckay perhaps

What, like us making a bid for Diarra when Sam was sacked? Essential difference being that Portsmouth tend not to run their club as some kind of asylum. Don't think they would bid a potential club record fee just off their own back if they didn't know who would be in charge. Adams has been talked about as a possible replacement for Redknapp, maybe they're deciding to pursue targets as usual with this in mind. Valid point, never really considered that And Alan Curbishley? Do you actually watch football?!

What, like us making a bid for Diarra when Sam was sacked? Essential difference being that Portsmouth tend not to run their club as some kind of asylum. Don't think they would bid a potential club record fee just off their own back if they didn't know who would be in charge.