Jackie Broon

Much is being said about the players not showing fight, but he is just so passive and lacking in fight in the only objective direct influence he can have on matches after the kick off, he looks out of ideas and defeated rather than someone fighting.

That's why his management of games like today is so baffling, it demonstrably was incompetent.

Time to go unfortunately.

100% on Eddie this, shocking game management.

Maybe we'll get a trio?

He's still producing quality service, his crossing is possibly even better than it was last season, it's not his fault that other players are failing to take advantage of that. He won't be on massive wages and we would get peanuts for him, unless we desperately need to free up a squad place I don't see the value in moving him on.

There's absolutely no reason to sell Murphy, we're very unlikely to be able to replace his output in assists / goals. And it does matter that he is a positive presence in the dressing room, that is invaluable and if the ballance between players who really care and those just here to do a job is off in the dressing room it can have a massive impact on the pitch.

Actually since the start of the 23/24 season, I think Eddie has been trying to play a more choosing our moments to press style since then... and we still can't make it work.

Dunno, no smoke without fire and this is Liverpool, who the media adore and wouldn't usually stir up this kind of stuff about unless there is something real behind it.

It seems to me that most of that has been enforced by injuries or players reaching a point where they've hit their cumulative fatigue limit with the sports scientists. I think we could have rotated more, used young players more and used substitutions earlier in games, and that the way we appeared to be playing to save ourselves earlier in the season probably cost us far more points than it has benefited us at this stage.

I think he has got things wrong in terms of managing the number of games we have had. It seems like he has favoured trying to manage fatigue by the way we play, rather than by using his full squad, particularly for the first half of the season. But I think that the cost of that in terms of dropping points in the league has probably been greater that what it has saved us in fatigue and benefit of having our best players on the pitch most of the time, and we've still ended up knackered at this stage of the season.

I don't think we'll have a choice, I think after his performance in the CL he'll want to be playing CL football and there will probably be CL clubs who will be in for him. Tbh, of our saleable players he's the one I'd be least bothered about losing, he just doesn't turn up far too often.

There's plenty still to play for in the league, if we put a run together we could still conceivably qualify for European football. Other than Arsenal away all of our remaining fixtures are ones we would expect to win on paper and with Bruno back and more rest and focused training between games it's possible our performances will improve.

Yes, the Land Registry alerts service (good idea to set up an alert for your own house too). https://propertyalert.landregistry.gov.uk/

There may be some movement on the training ground by the way, the law firm Savage Silk made an application to the Land Registry on Woolsington Hall yesterday, which indicates that it is being or has just been sold.

They wouldn't double their outlay, their (and RB's) outlay includes £558.3m that they have put into the club via share issues. As they have put it in through share issues it is effectively a gift to the club, there is no way to get that back other than through the value of the sale of the club. So, just to break even on their on-paper investment the club would need to be sold for £863m. Also, in reality they have probably actually invested more than that when taking into account related party sponsorships etc. Yeah, truth is that if PIF can't bridge the gap to the next level there is not going to be another owner who can, and if they do decide to sell up at any point people will be in for a big wake-up call in expectations.

I think there is some rose tinted looking back at when Staveley was here, yes she was visible a lot of the time but there were long periods without much being communicated from her, and not much detail given when she did. Notwithstanding the ethical considerations of being owned by PIF we're not going to get better owners, they've put £150m into the club since September alone! We could have been one of the sky 6 under our own steam if Keegan's legacy hadn't been dismantled in the late 90s, but we missed that boat. As things are now there is no realistic prospect of us being where we currently are without a benefactor owner willing to pump in £30m+ per season without expecting a return. An owner who gives the club £150m for two shares without saying a word about it is better than a communicative one that can't or won't do that.

For me he is, I'm not Eddie out but we need to see whether it really does turn around when we're not playing two matches per week and he has more time on the training ground.

The point I was making wasn't anything to do with Mitchell's qualities, it was that Eddie has had a huge say in our transfer business, and clearly wants ot that way, he can't be absolved from blame for how poor it has been recently.

I don't think anything has cone out about why he left, but his comments about our recruitment not being fit for purpose point towalds there having been some conflict there.

Eddie was in charge of our summer recruitment and it seems pretty likely that Mitchell left because there was a power battle between him and Eddie over recruitment, which Eddie won.

To be fair, it would probably not look good for him to be living it up at sporting events with what is going on right now.

Like I said, they seem to have no desire to challenge the rules.

They probably could, but don't seem to have any desire to.

Fucking dyslexia and false confidence in automatic spell-checking.