themanupstairs

I don't mind players like Shelvey, Snodgrass and Colback forming a solid underbelly as part of a squad. Rotated to rest the better players or in case of injuries and suspensions. NOT in place of Cabaye and Ben Arfa though.

i should also add, NOT with Al Pards in charge.

I don't mind players like Shelvey, Snodgrass and Colback forming a solid underbelly as part of a squad. Rotated to rest the better players or in case of injuries and suspensions. NOT in place of Cabaye and Ben Arfa though.

I make a point for the sake of my sanity of never reading comments on, well anything basically, so not sure what kind of defensive arguments people are coming out with but from the lads I talk to in the pub who still defend Pardew I think it stems from an inability to view the situation in anything but the most basic terms: e.g it's Ashley's fault so it can't be Pardew's

 

I find the Cabaye thing especially frustrating - yes we sold our best player and didn't replace him, but what if he had got injured instead? It's just not acceptable to be in a position where the loss of 1 player results in the complete collapse of the whole team.

What do they say when you mention that we almost were relegated last season WITH Cabaye, and it took a moment of stupidity from a flop like Bosingwa to keep us up?

Edit: Let me guess. Yurop. We waz tired from yurop

I'm one of the people who believes that manger's don't have a big impact on a team.

 

There's a tiny group of geniuses in the Alex Ferguson/Bobby Robson bracket who will change your fortunes single-handedly.

 

There's also a small group of complete idiots who should find alternative employment. (It looks like we've got one of these unfortunately.)

 

Beyond that it's just choosing from a pile of candidates who are pretty much as good as each other, and finding the one who's the right fit for your club personality-wise.

 

Yes, but even among the group of relative no-marks, there are still some managers you would accept or tolerate if you see a certain kind of intention to play good football, honesty, dignity, and a genuine concern for the club's well being. Hughton wasn't the best manager in the world, and probably never will be. But the case against him was never made so strongly, and with such vitriol. Sure, some could see his failings, but he is a good man, and conducted himself really well in general. His teams had passion and fight in them, and clearly played for him. I would have been content - not happy, but content - to see us beat the mackems regularly, win most of our home games, and show some fight in the games we lose, under Hughton.

 

The bloke we have in charge now has none of Hughton's personal qualities to go along with his own total ineptness at managing a football team. Pardew's ego is his biggest failing imo and he's a lot less tolerable than a man like Hughton.

 

Yeah I think we agree here, the idea is that within that's group it's more about personality than tactical skills.

 

Fit is also very important. No matter how good of a manager you are if the players can't stand you and you can't work with your staff it's not going to end well.

Just like a good marriage. All about the right place, the right time, and the right circumstances. You just can't force it. That's what happened with Keegan. KK may never have had the same impact on management had he taken his first job immediately after retiring his playing career, or had he gone to manage say, Charlton - a club with whom he had no connection. There was a scenario at Newcastle, and it needed a man like Keegan to spearhead it. I would have happily seen NUFC bob along nicely (stability) in mid table under Hughton until the moment came for a "Keegan/Hall-like" scenario to appear again.

I'm one of the people who believes that manger's don't have a big impact on a team.

 

There's a tiny group of geniuses in the Alex Ferguson/Bobby Robson bracket who will change your fortunes single-handedly.

 

There's also a small group of complete idiots who should find alternative employment. (It looks like we've got one of these unfortunately.)

 

Beyond that it's just choosing from a pile of candidates who are pretty much as good as each other, and finding the one who's the right fit for your club personality-wise.

Yes, but even among the group of relative no-marks, there are still some managers you would accept or tolerate if you see a certain kind of intention to play good football, honesty, dignity, and a genuine concern for the club's well being. Hughton wasn't the best manager in the world, and probably never will be. But the case against him was never made so strongly, and with such vitriol. Sure, some could see his failings, but he is a good man, and conducted himself really well in general. His teams had passion and fight in them, and clearly played for him. I would have been content - not happy, but content - to see us beat the mackems regularly, win most of our home games, and show some fight in the games we lose, under Hughton.

The bloke we have in charge now has none of Hughton's personal qualities to go along with his own total ineptness at managing a football team. Pardew's ego is his biggest failing imo and he's a lot less tolerable than a man like Hughton.

Still dont get why Guardiola went to Bayern. The side had just won everything, even if he'd repeated that it wouldnt have been amazing.

 

Should've gone to a weaker side & reproven his philosophy/ability as a manager.

This. Very stupid decision. Bottled it.

They need to change that rule.

 

Why?

 

Because you can get booked for almost anything these days with this nanny sport. Missing the final because of serious foul play and a red card in the semis is fair enough. But to miss a final because of a potential poxy yellow is bollocks. Kocielny was booked after scoring against us for kicking the ball into the crowd. Iniesta did the same (or Fabregas, can't remember) when Messi scored the winner against Villareal and got nothing.

 

He got booked for a needless slide in which he had no chance of winning the ball.

Hurt nobody. It's a yellow. Another yellow and he should be sent off in THIS match (and miss the final). Shouldn't be missing a final if he manages to stay on the pitch tonight. IMO.

Ribery is filthy scum. Already spat on, and slapped someone and is still on the pitch. Utter utter overrated cunt.

They need to change that rule.

 

Why?

Because you can get booked for almost anything these days with this nanny sport. Missing the final because of serious foul play and a red card in the semis is fair enough. But to miss a final because of a potential poxy yellow is bollocks. Kocielny was booked after scoring against us for kicking the ball into the crowd. Iniesta did the same (or Fabregas, can't remember) when Messi scored the winner against Villareal and got nothing.

Jordan the revolutionary. Well played son

Since Cajun brought it up, I've been really liking the idea of taking a punt on Sean Dyche. Burnley are up though and I can't imagine they'd let him go before their PL season starts.

Has he ever been on the winning side having started a NUFC match?

 

Morecambe, Atromitos, Scunthorpe, Forest. All the big games.

Well to be fair he can only beat what's in front of him. This means we've never won a league game in which he's started.

The writing's on the wall. He looks completely broken and on his way out. I am convinced of it. This chancer rubs his nose or his temple in every f***ing interview he's ever done since joining the club. Interviews in which he has lied and tried to be clever about the rubbish he spouts. I'm no body language expert but I know what a lying incompetent c*** who is out of his depth looks like. He knows he's been found out now and hasn't rubbed his nose or his temple in the last two interviews. His time is up and he knows it. I'm convinced.

 

I disagree. He is desperate for a win against Cardiff but even without one, while there's no unrest in the stands, Ashley will probably continue to back him. It's our own f***ing fault tbh.

don't man  :'(

The writing's on the wall. He looks completely broken and on his way out. I am convinced of it. This chancer rubs his nose or his temple in every fucking interview he's ever done since joining the club. Interviews in which he has lied and tried to be clever about the rubbish he spouts. I'm no body language expert but I know what a lying incompetent cunt who is out of his depth looks like. He knows he's been found out now and hasn't rubbed his nose or his temple in the last two interviews. His time is up and he knows it. I'm convinced.

Has he ever been on the winning side having started a NUFC match?

What the f*** is Pochettino doing playing 18 yr old Sam Gallagher from the start man? Doesn't he know he could stunt the player's growth playing him against a top top side like Everton? Deer in headlights. Pochettino is an ignoramus and I wouldn't have him at NUFC tbh.

He really is a condescending b****** saying we should be grateful with what we have.

Yup. Pardew supporters have no right to demand ASHLEY OUT. If the wideboy wasn't happy with the owner, then he could resign. Instead he dedicates wins to Mike and rambles on about value. Fuck off.

We played with 3 in central midfield and we didn't boss anything as Ronaldo said.

 

I know he charges around and pumps his chest but that doesn't make him a great player.

There really is no middle ground around here. He isn't a great player, but he's nowhere near as bad as some keep droning on about. Someone said earlier that Tiote can't pass. That is absolute bollocks. He's not Michel Platini, but he can put the ball about. We have gripes with the way we play, and we've all seen how static we are going forward. Tiote is a limited player, but he isn't the only reason we get caught out in possession or give the ball away.

Even if we beat Cardiff, what the f*** does that prove? That we, at home, can beat one of the worst teams in the league? Whoop-de-f***ing-do. As they say, even a stopped clock is right twice a day and even the worst managers eventually rack up wins.

He obviously thinks a win would pacify the dissenters among fans and media. He's that thick.

http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff512/Scotty6682/scott1_zps82d76a62.png

Christ that's almost half a season man 

Who the f*** is this clown??

 

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/newcastle-manager-alan-pardew-should-3471965?

Makes a good case the silly twat

 

As if Suarez is actually a racist.

 

Aside from the fact he was proved to be you mean?

 

By the FA.

 

Rather believe white South Americans who have said it's not meant as a racist term.

 

South Americans think monkey chants are playful banter. As if that bunch of animals are any authority on racism.

We'll now go on to beat Cardiff, keeping the mackems up, then proceed to get humped at Anfield to hand the dippers the title. Such is the curse this cunt is on us.

“I think it is very important that we get players who want to be here, who are constantly focused on the result for this team, and also to improve it.

 

“I think Shola’s comments last week were something that we carry across the whole club, we want to improve.

 

“The upside this season has been the undercurrent of the first team which has grown significantly.

 

“We had a tremendous result this week at Academy level and I think I’m really buoyed by that.

 

“I think one or two of those could step up next year.

 

“That’s a good thing but obviously we need to recruit and that is something we’ll all be focusing on this week too.”

 

At least the undercurrent of the first team has grown, I was worrying about that.  Now we just need to engfargle some gangleblart in the kemillon.

 

 

:mike: my sides ffs

Do you think nev and carra give a flying fuck about tiny little nufc at the moment to do enough research? or even just THINK? They're all too consumed with the title race to bother with anything other than pre-fabricated cliches. Fuck the lot of them. We're on our own with this one. We'll get it done somehow. Someday.