themanupstairs

tbh i'm starting to get annoyed that we have 2 threads on Coloccini

a merger perhaps?

I wouldn't say its the highest.  Most are running the we bid 8M GBP they accepted then rejected now they want 11M GBP about 13-14 M Euros.

 

I only have US currency on my keyboard in case anybody tries to take the piss for writing GBP.

is this a great big pisstake?

Has this already been posted? Not from reputable sources.

 

http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=796532

 

Sir Alex Ferguson has dropped a bombshell by sensationally revealing that he will quit as manager of Manchester United if Cristiano Ronaldo leaves to join Real Madrid.

 

It has been the transfer soap opera of the summer, and the most explosive episode so far may have just been aired.

 

With Man Utd publicly insisting that the Portuguese wizard is staying, Real Madrid quietly confident that they can get their man, and Ronaldo himself still remaining silent, Sir Alex Ferguson has moved to drop an absolute bombshell regarding the issue.

 

Ferguson, who has won more trophies than any other manager in the history of English football, has threatened to quit Manchester United if Ronaldo is sold.

 

"If Ronaldo leaves, I'm going too," the Scot is quoted as saying by Spanish newspaper Marca.

 

It is quite an astonishing statement from Fergie, who has been at Man Utd for the last 22 years, winning 10 Premier Leagues, five FA Cups, two Champions Leagues and an Intercontinental Cup, among a plethora of other honours.

 

Ferguson is well known to being a master when it comes to playing the media, and these comments, if Marca have reported them accurately, may have been intended to pile up the guilt on Ronaldo, and pressure him into staying at Old Trafford.

 

load of rubbish. even SAF isn't that petty and will see the bright side of Ronaldo leaving

 

Don't ruin the dream. A Fergieless Manchester United is a beautiful vision.

f*** off! have you any idea how many dreams that bloke in your avatar has ruined? 

Has this already been posted? Not from reputable sources.

 

http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=796532

 

Sir Alex Ferguson has dropped a bombshell by sensationally revealing that he will quit as manager of Manchester United if Cristiano Ronaldo leaves to join Real Madrid.

 

It has been the transfer soap opera of the summer, and the most explosive episode so far may have just been aired.

 

With Man Utd publicly insisting that the Portuguese wizard is staying, Real Madrid quietly confident that they can get their man, and Ronaldo himself still remaining silent, Sir Alex Ferguson has moved to drop an absolute bombshell regarding the issue.

 

Ferguson, who has won more trophies than any other manager in the history of English football, has threatened to quit Manchester United if Ronaldo is sold.

 

"If Ronaldo leaves, I'm going too," the Scot is quoted as saying by Spanish newspaper Marca.

 

It is quite an astonishing statement from Fergie, who has been at Man Utd for the last 22 years, winning 10 Premier Leagues, five FA Cups, two Champions Leagues and an Intercontinental Cup, among a plethora of other honours.

 

Ferguson is well known to being a master when it comes to playing the media, and these comments, if Marca have reported them accurately, may have been intended to pile up the guilt on Ronaldo, and pressure him into staying at Old Trafford.

load of rubbish. even SAF isn't that petty and will see the bright side of Ronaldo leaving

What is turan doing now? I haven't heard anything about him since end of June when he said he was going to Serie A

having a medical now at Tottenham Spurs 

Can I just ask , why exactly are we hated so much by Newcastle fans?

I find it very strange , as all of my mates (including myself) reserve our hatred for the Goons or Chelski.

Id even think of .......... QPR , Millwall, Wet Spam, fulham, even somebody like Bolton before I got to Newcastle

 

very strange

I personally have my own racist reasons

Mike Ashley would not take kindly to being fukd about like this. He is an impulsive kind of guy and i think he would simply say fuk it!

 

Then he's not suited to being a football owner.

 

Partly true. It also means he could one day turn around and say f*** it, I want to win the Champions League in 2 years, splashing out on all sorts of galacticos

 

Not exactly shown that kinda desire.

 

I dunno, what about when he announced his favourite player was Alan Smith

 

That just made me think he might be gay.

 

or he could admire Smith's sheer brilliance with a ball at his feet

 

Is that some kind of s&m reference?

for some reason i read that as sheer balliance with brill at his feet 

Mike Ashley would not take kindly to being fukd about like this. He is an impulsive kind of guy and i think he would simply say fuk it!

 

Then he's not suited to being a football owner.

Partly true. It also means he could one day turn around and say fuck it, I want to win the Champions League in 2 years, splashing out on all sorts of galacticos

That Spurs Right hand side would get raped.

 

No balance there at all

It's the left hand side that I think Jonas will rip to shreds. Dos Santos tracking back? hmmmm. no.

Spurs are definitely the team looking best equipped to do things.

 

Villa have a pathetically small squad which MON has allowed to disintegrate, and a terminal inability to conclude deals without fuss, Newcastle seem to be gripped by stasis, Everton haven't got a pot to piss in, West Ham have had their financial rug pulled from beneath them and are lumbered with a squad of high-earning, injury prone wasters.

 

Hate Redknapp though I do, he has done pretty well this window. So Portsmouth and Spurs seem to be switched on.

 

I put Spurs slightly ahead of Pompey now.

 

I agree, Spurs are doing very well,

 

I just think traditional "big" clubs like Newcastle, Villa and Everton seem to be stood around doing bugger all, sneering at Redknapp, whilst he puts together a pretty impressive set up.

Mmmmmmm not sure about spurs. there main problem for the last few years has been lack of strength,physically,defensivly and i don't see that being remidied.

 

i can see sours going 4-2-3-1 next season but i have no idea who their vital "2" will be.

 

Veloso and/or Albelda are the two high up in the list of options, though wanting them and getting them are two totally different things.  That said, with our dealings in this window, I'm reluctant to discount anybody as pie in the sky wishful thinking.

 

See my previous post MJ.

 

Who sits on the bench if a DM is indeed brought in though?

 

The popular guess for the team is

 

                          Gomes

 

 

Hutton  -    King/backup  -    Woodgate  -    Bale

 

 

                    Veloso/Albelda  -    Zokora/Jenas

 

 

            Bentley  -  Modric  -  Dos Santos

 

 

                                              Arshavin

 

                         

                                Villa/Bent/Milito

 

The Lennons/Gilbertos/back up CB's will get a good degree of action, I've no doubt about that, varying on whether we're home or away, the ability of the opposition etc.

 

 

The most noticeable thing about the pre-season matches so far is the flexibility of the players as they interchange with positions, Bale operating as an attacking LM, Modric sometimes dropping back to holding MF etc etc.  Of course it's easy to go over the top about it when you're playing Orient and Norwich but style of play seems to be in place and there are more players to follow.  The one thing that is obvious is that Ramos has a clear vision of how he wants his team to play, who he needs to achieve it and Levy (providing the money) and Comolli (convincing the players) are doing the business for Ramos.

 

How's it paid for?  Well, nothing is cheap at Spurs, boxes, ST's, etc, £70m+ for Berbatov (when he goes), Keane, the Sunderland 3 and Kaboul, the strict salary structure, they're all contributing to the availability of funds.  There's no doubt in my mind that the overdraft will increase but the ITK's are agreed that our accounts won't be showing any worse than any other club. 

 

All spurs ITKs are agreed that you're going to be playing 12 in a team this year? Surely that wouldn't be allowed

 

 

:lol:

 

12 on the field does help!!

 

I copied/pasted that from a Spurs forum, no one's said a bloody word for the past couple of hours!  OK, I accept it there will be problems in fitting them all in!

 

Arshavin does look a bit out of place. I'd steer well clear

I'm in agreement that provided the press is correct about us making a bid (and I believe them on this one), and we f*** it up, there is no one to blame but the club itself. Coloccini is a high calibre footballer you cannot miss out on for that price. Especially more so as it would mean we are relatively sorted in defence. Would be a bonus to swap Duff with Warnock, but imo we could make do without him.

Pull your fingers out big mike/3 wise men/KK. PLEASE!!!!!!!!

Having said that, I have a gut feeling that the Newcastle delegation to Mallorca will get this sorted out, and he will travel back with the rest of the squad. Just a hunch mind.

Spurs are definitely the team looking best equipped to do things.

 

Villa have a pathetically small squad which MON has allowed to disintegrate, and a terminal inability to conclude deals without fuss, Newcastle seem to be gripped by stasis, Everton haven't got a pot to piss in, West Ham have had their financial rug pulled from beneath them and are lumbered with a squad of high-earning, injury prone wasters.

 

Hate Redknapp though I do, he has done pretty well this window. So Portsmouth and Spurs seem to be switched on.

 

I put Spurs slightly ahead of Pompey now.

 

I agree, Spurs are doing very well,

 

I just think traditional "big" clubs like Newcastle, Villa and Everton seem to be stood around doing bugger all, sneering at Redknapp, whilst he puts together a pretty impressive set up.

Mmmmmmm not sure about spurs. there main problem for the last few years has been lack of strength,physically,defensivly and i don't see that being remidied.

 

i can see sours going 4-2-3-1 next season but i have no idea who their vital "2" will be.

 

Veloso and/or Albelda are the two high up in the list of options, though wanting them and getting them are two totally different things.  That said, with our dealings in this window, I'm reluctant to discount anybody as pie in the sky wishful thinking.

 

See my previous post MJ.

 

Who sits on the bench if a DM is indeed brought in though?

 

The popular guess for the team is

 

                          Gomes

 

 

Hutton  -    King/backup  -    Woodgate  -    Bale

 

 

                    Veloso/Albelda  -    Zokora/Jenas

 

 

            Bentley  -  Modric  -  Dos Santos

 

 

                                              Arshavin

 

                         

                                Villa/Bent/Milito

 

The Lennons/Gilbertos/back up CB's will get a good degree of action, I've no doubt about that, varying on whether we're home or away, the ability of the opposition etc.

 

 

The most noticeable thing about the pre-season matches so far is the flexibility of the players as they interchange with positions, Bale operating as an attacking LM, Modric sometimes dropping back to holding MF etc etc.  Of course it's easy to go over the top about it when you're playing Orient and Norwich but style of play seems to be in place and there are more players to follow.  The one thing that is obvious is that Ramos has a clear vision of how he wants his team to play, who he needs to achieve it and Levy (providing the money) and Comolli (convincing the players) are doing the business for Ramos.

 

How's it paid for?  Well, nothing is cheap at Spurs, boxes, ST's, etc, £70m+ for Berbatov (when he goes), Keane, the Sunderland 3 and Kaboul, the strict salary structure, they're all contributing to the availability of funds.  There's no doubt in my mind that the overdraft will increase but the ITK's are agreed that our accounts won't be showing any worse than any other club. 

 

All spurs ITKs are agreed that you're going to be playing 12 in a team this year? Surely that wouldn't be allowed

well spotted! was thinking to myself that looked much more like a sunday roast than a FIFA regulation football team

Sick of hearing about Spurs now the only thing that makes it better is that most people are in agreement that the Bentley sell on Clause is 40%.

 

 

Gomes, Modric and Dos Santos have been paraded for the cameras. Gomes thinks they are going to finish top two, shall you or i tell him?

 

So we've had Gerrards 'its our year'.

We've had the Arsenal 'selling their 'best' players and buying on the cheap argument'.

We've had the annual Chelsea/Man U bitchfest.

We've had the annual transfer saga (Ronaldo).

And now we've had the Spurs 'Going to break the top 4' malarky.

 

Anything left to complete the summer?

Top Newcastle striker out for first 6 months of the season?

Have we had this one ?

Argentine's agent tells United to look elsewhere for a defender

Morpeth Herald, UK - 10 minutes ago

NEWCASTLE United have been told to "look for another player" after the agent of Fabricio Coloccini criticised Deportivo La Coruna's handling of his client. ...

eons ago

Our transfer policy is far better than it was, however it would be very disappointing if we were to miss out on a player with the quality of Coloccini especially after Modric aswell, I'm still hopeful though.

 

Than it was when?

Old board, I didn't want to say it because we all know what follows after that

 

Not really fair to compare tbh. We bought some real s**** under the old lot and have bought some real s**** under this lot. In actual fact all this stuff about 'policies' is a load of bollocks iyam.

 

We just wanted young players, yet Jonas is 26.

We didn't want anyone from South America, then got Jonas.

We didn't want to pay big money, but we 'supposedly' pay Viduka et al loads of money. We've 'supposedly' offered this guy twice what he's on now.

 

All us as fans can do is wait and see who we get and how they turn out.

and there-in boys and girls lies the art of rocket science 

ok, this is just a random thought i had but how did the transfer exactly work. clearly jonas bought out his contract but was that after we made our interst known or did he do it then say to us 'can i play for you'.

We blatantly tapped him up, told him we'd give him a signing on fee to at least match him buying out his contract and offered him a good wage.

most probably true....but in very best man utd style "prove it"

 

the good thing is,if true and the coloccini agents repaorts....we have been doing stuff away from the medias gaze for the past few months. i wonder what else there is ?

 

What nobody has said that the negotiations regarding Sideshow Fab could be described as tapping up. After all, the agent has said publically that NUFC have negotiated both the proposed transfer fee and personal terms with the agent, not Deportivo. Is it not illegal to approach players without the prior approval of the club?

 

Similarly, the scenario The Gorilla proposed is (imo) almost certainly close to the truth. Which, again, would be illegal, but simply impossible to police...

 

As i understand it, Depor accepted our initial bid, but then later decided to up the asking price. We would have negotiated personal terms in between

'PAOK fans in Greece got a shock when their club's official website announced the signing of Inter Milan star Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Italian news agency Ansa said Tuesday. The Swede is one of the top players in Serie A and thought to be in the running for this year's world player of the year award. There was a hint to the error made with the announcement that Ibra had been signed from Atalanta.

 

'In fact, PAOK had actually signed Atalanta's Bosnian forward Zlatan Muslimovic with his Italian club ironically playing in the same black and blue shirts as Inter.

 

'The mistake was later corrected but no-one seemed to have told the fans, who came out in their hoards to welcome the new arrival at the airport, as if he was indeed Ibrahimovic. The mistake is an easy one to make as like Ibra, who is of Bosnian heritage, Muslimovic holds a Swedish passport and plays up front.'

 

fucking greeks

could some of our resident photoshop experts quickly get up a photo with Fab in a toon shirt? maybe if we visualize it hard enough it'll happen!

 

 

while we have 3 who could score 20+

 

who?

 

Smith, Shola and Duff.

in theory, they could

Sin embargo, Lendoiro pide una indemnización para el verano de inversiones que serán inútiles si la propuesta de transferencia de Coloccini a Newcastle sigue adelante: "Depor han gastado miles de euros de población hacia las estanterías de las tiendas del club con Fabricio pelucas. Dennis Wise tendrá que comprar todas esas pelucas , Y compensar a nuestros aficionados para el daño emocional de compra por accidente de travestismo productos ".

 

This looks new, can anyone translate?

 

Seriously   

 

Translates as:

 

However, Lendoiro seeks compensation for the summer of investments that will be futile if the proposed transfer to Newcastle Coloccini continued: "Depor have spent thousands of euros population towards the shelves of stores club with Fabricio wigs. Dennis Wise 'll have to buy all those wigs, and compensate our fans for the emotional harm of accidental purchase of cross-dressing products. "

class James

Would you say that Obas dummy with Tainio is one of his best goals?

dummy ?

 

watch it closely

 

link?

pretty sure there'll be a youtube of it

was trying to get you banned madras 

think it was a bit of a shimmy and a bit of mis-control myself

Would you say that Obas dummy with Tainio is one of his best goals?

dummy ?

 

watch it closely

link?

£4-5m for Given or £2m for Krul?

 

I'd take the money for Shay to be honest

If Krul was a fledgling keeper at Arsenal or Man U he'd be going for at least 5 or 6 million himself. Look at the price bandied about for Carson when he first broke onto the scene.

Taylor and Ferdinand at the back? This a wind up?

thats a bit like having Terry and Ferdinand at the back when they were both 21 yr olds isn't it?

Despite the fact that I rate both Given and Harper as high quality premiership standard keepers (with Shay at point one of the best), I really do not think we should stunt Krul's development. I know it's early days for him yet, but from a personal point of view, I wouldn't want him to get itchy feet and end up pissing off somewhere else. I think he is the biggest hope we have of a youngster becoming a fixture in our side and his international side.

Love Given personally, and have met the chap on one occasion in Cyprus, and he was terrific. But if he's gotta go, he's gotta go.