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Can't see what Keegan has done wrong, not one player on the pitch at the moment is Keegan's.

Just listened to it. Love his honesty. Seems both Kinnear and Newcastle are after the same thing; a chance to restore some dignity and win back some pride. This appointment might turn out to be better than it first sounded. Just hope he doesn't go on too good a winning run or may get the job full time like Roeder!

It could be that Hughton might not want to do the caretaker job anymore and his current extra responsibilities must be having an effect on the job he's actually paid to do. In the current situation freeing Hughton of those duties could be more important than the job Kinear himself does. There may actually be some logic in that. For what it's worth I think we will beat Blackburn tomorrow, so hopefully he will inherit a team on a winning "streak".

Can't fault the bloke's realism and honesty. Just a bit bemused why a Ashley and Wise and co think a bloke who hasn't had a job for several years and with no real long term track record of success will do a better job than the current caretaker manager who has been working with the players for months.

I respect your opinion Di', but the at the end of the day, you don't have to be a shouter to be a good captain. Shearer was an exception, he could show them what to do by example, and could shout at them and motivate them. Michael Owen is probably the highest quality player we have at our club, and if anyone is fit to captain us, then he has to be in with a shout. The only other person I could possibly give it to is Shay Given. Here's some reasons why; - Given and Owen will play nearly every game - Given has been at the club a long time - Both have dozens of International caps - Shay is a bit of a shouter not much, and Owen has good reading of the game - Both have reasonable positional sense (apart from when Shay doesn't collect crosses) - Both are experienced - Both are players the fans look to. to show a bit of class That's my opinion anyways, turning on Michael Owen saying he is a s**** captain sounds to me like making someone other than Ameobi a scapegoat. For me, Owen is one of the few players who is emerging with any credibility from the current debacle. He has spoke sensibly to the media and led by example on the pitch. He's never stopped running and created his own chances and half chances, nicking a couple of goals. If a few more in the team had Owen's self belief, discipline and professional application we would be a lot higher up the table.

Great player, better than Keegan. Can't really see where he would fit in at the moment though. Although he still has more pace than Geremi. Maybe play him in a withdrawn role behind Owen or Viduka.

True, if we were not going to bring anyone else in why sell Faye and Milner? They both would have been v.useful and given us extra options yesterday.

Just back from the match. f***ing shambles. We could definately be flirting with relegation this year. West Ham are pretty poor and we actually created enough chances to win. Defending was diabolical, anyone giving Taylor grief wants to check out Colo, one of the current "European scouting system" golden boys. Maybe he would look solid in a competent, tried and tested, defence but he is as poor as anyone at the moment. Duff is finished, as many of us already know, the last time he actually beat a player he was wearing the blue of Chelsea. Totally shot to pieces. N'zogbia, biggest footballing fraud on the pitch, an a coward to boot, I don't care if he doesn't want to play left back. He is fully equipped to be able to play that role comfortably. He's just not interested. Edgar at right back? Give me strength. Xisco is well off the PL pace at the moment. Despite the midfield pairing of Cacapa and Butt we actually didn't seem to have too many problems in the middle, a testement to how poor West Ham were, it seemed to be down the wings we were exposed. So much for the continental scouting system, we've been crying out for a left back, was it Wise et al who were trying to sign Warnock? Seems more like a Keegan type buy to me. To actually strengthen in a position we were weak. Not meant to be an incisive footballing analysis. I was too angry/pissed by the second half. I'm still blaming Ashley for putting us in this situation and believe that Keegan could at least keep this shower up. Secondly, I blame the players, not enough heart, rolled over too easily. A lot of finger pointing/shirking of responsibility after the first goal. All in all a bag of s****.

The Owen situation is just another example of how the new, much vaunted, "system" has singularly failed to do its job. How long do they need to offer him a contract, ascertain whether or not he'll sign it and if not sell him and bring in an alternative? Rumours that he was hawked around the PL in the dying hours of the transer window just exemplify the sorry mess we have been left in.

Not true, we have failed/are failing to reach our potential. When clubs like Portsmouth and Blackburn are regularly finishing higher up the league there is a fundamental problem with the way we are being run.

For me, what we have seen already is just the "thin edge of the wedge". As stated by Ashley's cabal of crooks "every player has a price". How long do you think Xisco will stay with us if he sets the PL on fire, or Spiderman, Colo or anyone. Selling Milner for a hefty price tag is one thing, but not replacing him is indefensible. The club seems to be being run in a more shabby and unprofessional manner than the previous regime and who thought that was possible? It seems official: we are now a selling club. :-[ If Fat Mike raised his chubby head from behind his barricade and explained exactly what was going on, set out a real vision for the club and promised £50m for new players in January, he might just placate some fans. But then again, after the shit his crew have pulled who would believe him?

The heartbreaking thing is that if we could of added a "modest" £30m* or so to our new arrivals and Keegan had been allowed to bring in another 3 or 4 top quality (£8-£10m) players we would actually be sitting in an excellent position now. Keegan would still be at the helm and the new signings would have galvanised the team. Finishing fifth would of been a real possibility in my opinion. Instead, fat Mike seems reluctant to invest in the playing side of the club which makes me think that a) he is waiting for a buyer to come along so he can make a tidy profit, or b) he is an asset stripper who wants rid of the high cost/high wages players like Owen etc so he can replace them with younger, foreign, players who can be sold for a profit. All the while using the club as a promotion vehicle for his charva tracky bottoms empire. *Modest in comparison to what some clubs have spent, you know the ones with real ambition.

I agree, Ashley's apparent indifference to the Keegan situation and the fact he didn't seriously invest in the team over the transfer window. In fact if some sources are to be believed he actually made a profit from transfer dealings. Something is going to happen, please god let it happen soon.

Fair enough, but couldn't some of the failed abortions in the background stop smiling like window lickers when the cameras are switched on. There's nothing funny about the present situation.

What's your problem with Terry Mac? Or are you just jumping on the band wagon? Do you actually know what role he fulfills at the club? Were you bad mouthing him during his two spells as a player with the club or as Keegan's right hand man during his first successful spell as manager? Just interested.

Exactly, this would be the ideal situation for me. Ashley was always after making a quick buck, there will be many investors looking very closely at Newcastle now. Hopefully, one of them will give the fat cunt the few million profit he wants so he can piss off back to London.

Ashley saw this spat with Keegan coming a mile off. In my opinion it was contrived by himself and Wise etc to get Keegan out of the club. The selling of Milner and lack of signings on the final day was just the last straw. Well done Ashley you fat charva tracksuit selling twat. You have what you wanted, now you can install a puppet manager and continue asset stripping the club.

Now all we need is some faceless foreign "coach" to put the players through their places. While Ashley and his cabal of Cockney cnuts bring in some Spanish/Italian U21 players to sell on for bigger fees. Keegan's strength is building a team, he has a great eye for a player and given the resources he could of had us challenging.

Ashley is an asset stripping cockney spiv. No self respecting manager would put up with the level of inteference Keegan has had. The much vaunted "continental system" is supposed to work in tandem with the manager by taking away responsibilities for negotiating contracts etc and scouting new players not buying and selling without the manager's acknowledgement. Keegan has done the right thing, he won't be anyone's stooge.

Fixed. where are these 4 signings ? it's sunday ffs, when do u get signings announced on a sunday? never When its 24 hours before a major transfer window deadline?

We will sign players. I expect at least two, but they will be what MA said, "young players 22-24". They won't be the galacticos some have been expecting and not even in the "straight into the first team" class that we desperately need. As stated previously, the likes of Guthrie, notwithstanding his good start to the season, are currently first team material because we have no one else. Arda Turan is 21. Does that rule him out? Yes.

We will sign players. I expect at least two, but they will be what MA said, "young players 22-24". They won't be the galacticos some have been expecting and not even in the "straight into the first team" class that we desperately need. As stated previously, the likes of Guthrie, notwithstanding his good start to the season, are currently first team material because we have no one else.

But we haven't been doing nothing have we? We've already brought in 4 good players. We've brought in two good players and two squad players and we have let 8 players go, 3 of whom could be considered first team players.. Is it not 3 first team players and one squad player or do you rate Butt higher than Guthrie Guthrie has had a good solid start to the season, he's a tidy player and his passing is excellent. However, if we had signed the players we really need in this transfer window he would only be a squad player.

Agreed, there will be some disappointed hectors tomorrow when the awful truth is unveiled. Still, we might be surprised and Arshavin and Berbatov could be introduced at a press conference on Tuesday. :toke:

I don't think anyone of any note is coming in, which makes the selling of Milner even more galling to me. I certainly don't expect a WOW signing. I was stood outside the offy next door to the Drayton pub a the Emirates yesterday. Minding my own business scuppering a few green grenades when Mike Ashley and his entourage turned up. His bouncer was despatched to get the beers in and Mike was mobbed within seconds by fans asking about new signings. His exact words were "we are looking at 2 or 3, young lads about 22-24, foreigners, because the English market has been done." I'm not holding my breath, he may have something up his sleeve but I doubt it. It's going to be a long hard season.......