Geordie Ahmed

Thought it was 2 pens

This is like when we appointed Souness, the fans knew it was going to be a major fuck up BUT the tard in charge felt otherwise Expect him to sign crap and piss our better players off

I like him, think he is a very good player even though he struggled a bit last season BUT there is no way he is going to play a bigger part next season, not unless we plan on bringing in a manager that actually wants to play football

You are reading it right It is interest that is forbidden, the reason being that it puts the person borrowing the money at a severe disadvantage and you should not profit for another person's financial misfortune or financially weaker position The "Islamic" loans/mortgages still end up costing the same, if not more than a regular mortgage, so the borrower is still at a severe disadvantage thus making the "Islamic" mortgage a bit of a sham (I'm no scholar so it is just my humble opinion)

Ultimately everybody has different thresholds, some will commit some sins yet refrain from others Just to make it clear both interest and gambling is forbidden in Islam, it's not a grey area BUT very clear cut Islam also endorses the subjugation of women, the Bible tells believers to kill non-believers. The fact is, modern religion depends on interpretation, so it's not up to us to dictate to Cisse which parts of Islam to hold dear. and where have I dictated anything to Cisse? Cisse is absolutely free to believe what he wants and practice what he wants BUT was just pointing out that both gambling and interest are forbidden in Islam

Well its stupid because he wore a bank sponsor last season... anyway until there are actual quotes from cisse this is probably bullshit That just doesn't hold any water for me. I wouldn't put banks and Wonga in the same category, certainly not from an ethical point of view. If it's on religious ground then they are the same, it's the interest earned regardless of how much. As explained before banks like Virgin money offer no interest loans to muslims. Irrelevant From a religious point of view, it is the interest that is forbidden I'm no fan of Wonga BUT from a religious point of view there isn't a great deal of difference between Wonga and Virgin Money Thats what I'm saying, banks have loans that have no interest, tailored for the Muslim population. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_banking Again it's irrelevant when it comes to the religious point of view The vast, vast majority of what Virgin Money do involves interest

Ultimately everybody has different thresholds, some will commit some sins yet refrain from others Just to make it clear both interest and gambling is forbidden in Islam, it's not a grey area BUT very clear cut

Well its stupid because he wore a bank sponsor last season... anyway until there are actual quotes from cisse this is probably bullshit That just doesn't hold any water for me. I wouldn't put banks and Wonga in the same category, certainly not from an ethical point of view. If it's on religious ground then they are the same, it's the interest earned regardless of how much. As explained before banks like Virgin money offer no interest loans to muslims. Irrelevant From a religious point of view, it is the interest that is forbidden I'm no fan of Wonga BUT from a religious point of view there isn't a great deal of difference between Wonga and Virgin Money

Terry with the full kit on, what a wanker :lol:

What a goal

Just win somehow

That applause didn't end well did it

I can't believe we lost 3-0 to this shower of shit

Yes, get in

Please be red

What a goal from Barca

Good strike from Hanson

Piss off Wigan and piss off Pardew

Think we are down

ffs, typical

Lol at those wanting Williamson, short memories. Williamson is poor and Carroll would destroy him

Hughton was sacked for far less, so please sack this useless turdd

Luiz scores, 2-1

Schar scores it, 1-1

Never a pen Still, howay Basel